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brave777 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:05 pm
Lokey wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:00 pm Yikes. I'm vaxxed and I don't feel any different than before.
Not everyone will, most up the pyramid who are gov workers did not get jabbed or if did only for tracking purpose. nothing bad. Google workers , Pfizer, they are not jabbed and many alike. perhaps your in good hands someone who in high places watching over you. If you not experienced hospital visits yet and I'm sure no one's looking out for me.
This is just first article that came up. No hospital visits yet and Im sure no one's looking out for me.
https://www.theverge.com/22516823/covid ... ned-reddit
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Lokey everyone left reddit long time ago, might as well go search google or youtube. lol why are you not on reddit but on double mm, can you answer. do you always click bait everything that comes up first or do you look both sides of the coins... are you a sceptic or you go for anything you see first on CNN? DING DING DING

Time will tell, me or you wont know for sure since so much miss info on both sides....
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brave777 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:11 pm Lokey everyone left reddit long time ago, might as well go search google or youtube. lol why are you not on reddit but on double mm, can you answer. do you always click bait everything that comes up first or do you look both sides of the coins... are you a sceptic or you go for anything you see first on CNN? DING DING DING
All it says it's a lie that started on reddit. Actually was a radio host and also a pastor from Florida's youtube video.
Plenty of articles stating it's a false conspiracy theory and it just sounds crazy to me.
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2021/10/01/w ... ccine.html
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Lokey wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:12 pm
brave777 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:11 pm Lokey everyone left reddit long time ago, might as well go search google or youtube. lol why are you not on reddit but on double mm, can you answer. do you always click bait everything that comes up first or do you look both sides of the coins... are you a sceptic or you go for anything you see first on CNN? DING DING DING
All it says it's a lie that started on reddit.
perhaps your right but people who can connect to them selfs trough blue tooth is a lie too???
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Lokey wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:00 pm Yikes. I'm vaxxed and I don't feel any different than before.
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herbalhippie wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:22 pm
Lokey wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:00 pm Yikes. I'm vaxxed and I don't feel any different than before.
I can mod without using my phone or desktop now!
AHHH DANG, please dont ban me! i ll be nice. :cry: :roll:
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herbalhippie wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:22 pm
Lokey wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:00 pm Yikes. I'm vaxxed and I don't feel any different than before.
I can mod without using my phone or desktop now!
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TIMCAST - UK Is Officially Ending COVID Restrictions.
https://www.brighteon.com/44077df4-f7e6 ... 098cc5851d

I thought this is big news and worth the attention. I would not be surprised if they add Restrictions again. what you guys think?
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brave777 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:11 pm Lokey everyone left reddit long time ago, might as well go search google or youtube. lol why are you not on reddit but on double mm, can you answer. do you always click bait everything that comes up first or do you look both sides of the coins... are you a sceptic or you go for anything you see first on CNN? DING DING DING

Time will tell, me or you wont know for sure since so much miss info on both sides....
https://www.statista.com/statistics/248 ... -audience/

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Some very interesting discussion about ivermectin on the medical sub tonight.

You think Ivermectin and HCQ help Covid? Great, I'm all ears. Please post and link me your studies showing how effective they are.

https://old.reddit.com/r/medicine/comme ... _great_im/
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I started taking alpha lipoic acid after someone here mentioned that their doctor told them to take it to help bring down their blood sugar (with COQ10 and magnesium glycinate).

Weeks after that, I saw a comment somewhere that someone's doctor had suggested they take alpha lipoic acid for loss of smell (anosmia) related to Covid. Before I saw this I
had noticed that I was getting random, split-second whiffs of things I haven't smelled since I had Covid a year ago. That's been increasing a little too.

I hadn't looked into it before but there are articles about alpha lipoic acid helping with this problem.

Will continue to monitor. :lol: I'm not suggesting a cure, might just be coincidence. Might not.
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herbalhippie wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:38 pm I started taking alpha lipoic acid after someone here mentioned that their doctor told them to take it to help bring down their blood sugar (with COQ10 and magnesium glycinate).

Weeks after that, I saw a comment somewhere that someone's doctor had suggested they take alpha lipoic acid for loss of smell (anosmia) related to Covid. Before I saw this I
had noticed that I was getting random, split-second whiffs of things I haven't smelled since I had Covid a year ago. That's been increasing a little too.

I hadn't looked into it before but there are articles about alpha lipoic acid helping with this problem.

Will continue to monitor. :lol: I'm not suggesting a cure, might just be coincidence. Might not.
Where do you get the alpha lipoic acid from? I use nootropics depot for most of my supplements. Have you noticed any other health benefits from the alpha lipoic acid? I think I remember reading something about it maybe being helpful for mitochondrial function (to help with energy) or inflammation.

I take COQ10 and Magnesium Citrate (to help with any constipation from kratom). Wondering if magnesium glycinate will help like the Citrate does but provide other magnesium benefits. It's kind of expensive but if its worth it I'll add it to my regiment.

Speaking of Covid, North Carolina is in the midst of our biggest surge by far. 35,000 cases yesterday and we've been testing at 30% or above positive rate for about 10 days straight now (35% 2 days ago). Covid patients in the hospital is highest it's been since covid started. For example, my dad had to be taken to the hospital on Dec 27 and he stayed there until the 29th. There were around 1800 covid patients in hospitals in the state at that time. Now, there is about 4900!!! And the state is requested aid from FEMA for help overwhelmed hospital system.

About 70% of my co-workers had covid within the last 3 weeks (I work for Cheesecake Factory, don't eat inside at busy restaurants like Cheesecake right now is my insider advice lol, it's not pretty or clean and feels like a giant super-spreader event ever shift with how busy we are and how packed it is. We don't space out tables at all :x ). We've had to run shifts without salad and pizza stations open, limited menus cause short cooks. And I had a co-worker, another server, pass away from covid right before the new year and just had his funeral this past week. It's been a mess. My mom tested positive about 2 weeks ago, and I felt like I had a cold for about 4 days or so. Both mild cases thankfully (yes, we're both vaccinated and recently got our boosters). But it's the first time since we've been using kratom daily 6 years ago that we actually got sick. Kratom wasn't working as well but it did help while we were feeling ill.
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I picked it up from Amazon, it's Nutricost brand. I don't know if it's working yet for what I got it for because I haven't got out my glucose monitor and checked. I'm not diabetic, but my blood sugar has been creeping up.

The magnesium glycinate seem to work about the same at citrate for me and when this bottle is done I'm going to switch back. The glycinate are huge horse pill tablets and hard to swallow and the citrate I use are softgel and easy to swallow.
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herbalhippie wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:08 pm I picked it up from Amazon, it's Nutricost brand. I don't know if it's working yet for what I got it for because I haven't got out my glucose monitor and checked. I'm not diabetic, but my blood sugar has been creeping up.

The magnesium glycinate seem to work about the same at citrate for me and when this bottle is done I'm going to switch back. The glycinate are huge horse pill tablets and hard to swallow and the citrate I use are softgel and easy to swallow.
Thanks, appreciate the feedback HH, as always!
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MikeEdoessomething wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:07 pm
herbalhippie wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:08 pm I picked it up from Amazon, it's Nutricost brand. I don't know if it's working yet for what I got it for because I haven't got out my glucose monitor and checked. I'm not diabetic, but my blood sugar has been creeping up.

The magnesium glycinate seem to work about the same at citrate for me and when this bottle is done I'm going to switch back. The glycinate are huge horse pill tablets and hard to swallow and the citrate I use are softgel and easy to swallow.
Thanks, appreciate the feedback HH, as always!
You're welcome!

Our area is getting over run with testing and positive cases have shot up sky high but I don't think out hospital is doing too badly right now. 20 unvaxxed covid patients as of yesterday and 10 fully vaxxed. This is in hospital, not just in ICU.
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Excerpt from Interesting interview with Bill Maher:

MAHER: I mean, we’re in a very different place with Covid than we were just when I was on the air last time, and that is the vaccines, we know, do not prevent you from either transmitting it or getting the disease. We know that. That’s a fact now. They just prevent you from dying, which is a great part of it, let’s not undercount that. But if they don’t prevent you from transmitting it and they don’t prevent you from getting it why are we still treating this disease the way we always have? And what the f*ck is the use of a booster shot? Because I will never get a booster shot.

DEADLINE: Because you think it’s useless?

MAHER: It’s not only useless, but this is a very, very new vaccine. Okay, I didn’t want the first vaccine. We should not treat people unfairly who want to allow their own immune system to take care of the situation. But okay, I took one for the team. Now, they’re giving a fourth one in Israel with the booster shots. Now, this I read in the front page of the New York Times, which is a very pro-vaccine publication, and even they printed that many scientists in Israel were against this, scientists and doctors, because they said it might have a reverse effect, something called immune system fatigue.

Well, I don’t want that, do you? So, now you’re not protected by the vaccine or your immune system? I don’t think so.

Full interview here:

https://deadline.com/2022/01/bill-maher ... 234916953/
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KalieGirl wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:40 am Excerpt from Interesting interview with Bill Maher:

MAHER: I mean, we’re in a very different place with Covid than we were just when I was on the air last time, and that is the vaccines, we know, do not prevent you from either transmitting it or getting the disease. We know that. That’s a fact now. They just prevent you from dying, which is a great part of it, let’s not undercount that. But if they don’t prevent you from transmitting it and they don’t prevent you from getting it why are we still treating this disease the way we always have? And what the f*ck is the use of a booster shot? Because I will never get a booster shot.

DEADLINE: Because you think it’s useless?

MAHER: It’s not only useless, but this is a very, very new vaccine. Okay, I didn’t want the first vaccine. We should not treat people unfairly who want to allow their own immune system to take care of the situation. But okay, I took one for the team. Now, they’re giving a fourth one in Israel with the booster shots. Now, this I read in the front page of the New York Times, which is a very pro-vaccine publication, and even they printed that many scientists in Israel were against this, scientists and doctors, because they said it might have a reverse effect, something called immune system fatigue.

Well, I don’t want that, do you? So, now you’re not protected by the vaccine or your immune system? I don’t think so.

Full interview here:

https://deadline.com/2022/01/bill-maher ... 234916953/
Bill Maher is massively misrepresenting that lmao. Read the actual article, please:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/worl ... -dose.html

"Given the fear of a major Omicron outbreak during the winter, when the hospitals are already overflowing with patients with complications of flu and other respiratory ailments, the advisory panel voted overwhelmingly to recommend a fourth dose for people over 60, those with compromised immune systems and health workers, to be administered at least four months after their third shots.

The panel did not recommend a fourth shot for the wider population at this stage. But it did advise giving the third dose three months after the second, rather than the current wait of five months."

They are saying its TOO SOON for a 4th shot, for the general public in Israel. They're giving the 4th shot to certain people.

'Immune system fatigue" is from taking too many shots in too short a time. This is still an overwhelmingly pro-vaccination stance and it's insane that Bill Maher presented it any other way. No country is recommending the 4th shot yet. It's not time. Wait a few months.

People were pushing similar misinformation when health organizations were saying it wasn't time for a 3rd shot yet. But we see how that turned out.

Maybe we can repeat this news cycle again in 6 months.
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Fourth covid shot for Israel?

Full article here:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/fourth-co ... ster-says/

Excerpt:

Israelis who are immunocompromised were the first to be approved for a booster dose, back in July, the first in the world to receive the additional shot. Booster doses in Israel were then rolled out to all Israelis over age 60 on August 1, and gradually expanded until all citizens were eligible by the end of the month.

Prof. Arnon Afek, the deputy director of the Sheba Medical Center, said on Monday that a fourth vaccine dose appears to be an inevitability.

“Whoever thinks that we won’t [have a fourth dose] is simply mistaken,” Afek told the Ynet news site. “As long as there is still a pandemic in areas like Africa, which have low vaccination rates, there will be more and more variants.”

Afek said he hopes that such COVID mutations won’t be as contagious and severe as the Delta variant, “but it seems that we will need to take a fourth, and fifth and sixth and seventh doses — who knows how many. But it’s fine, we’re lucky we have them, not every country in the world has vaccines.”

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Baffling that you highlight text to imply Israel is acting selfishly, yet ignore that Maher was dead wrong and misrepresented the current science about the vaccine.

Do you read what you post or do you just copy/paste it from social media? It doesn't seem like you are comprehending the links you post.
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Covid vaccine injuries are being grossly underreported and censored: evidence from multiple, independent sources

https://joomi.substack.com/p/i-was-dece ... id-vaccine
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Unfortunately the entire pandemic has been miscounted on so many levels, we will have NOTHING to refer back to in the future !

Not every heart attack is a COVID related death…so many different ways of reporting things, nothing is streamlined and towns cannot agree on reporting, much less countries!
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KalieGirl wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:37 pm Covid vaccine injuries are being grossly underreported and censored: evidence from multiple, independent sources

https://joomi.substack.com/p/i-was-dece ... id-vaccine
CTRL+F VAERS

and...

AND...

There it is!

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Clayton Thomas Discusses Quantumceuticals, Biotech and Pineal Gland with Nicholas Veniamin
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MC5LjDXHRpz9/

Most banned video, Nicholas Veniamin had no explanation why, banned from youtube,insta, telegram... Still on bitchute. So i thought, why would they go after this video with no explanation.

Clayton Breaks apart why clean Pineal Gland is very important, If it does remove all graphine oxide, mercury aluminum and alike bad metals from Pineal Gland , liver and other organs, this means you become a 4D being, this is my speculation why the video is being banned everywhere. When you have no Brain Fog, Perfect Heart Beat, no stress, zero alhzemier or parkinsons disease, if you are healthy you are a threat. I can't think any other reasons why they wuld bn the video because thats all Clayton talks about. I mean i seen not a lot but few people who were vaxed saying they never felt better using it. So if it does help why ban the video? makes no sense.
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brave777 wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:34 pm Clayton Thomas Discusses Quantumceuticals, Biotech and Pineal Gland with Nicholas Veniamin
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MC5LjDXHRpz9/

Most banned video, Nicholas Veniamin had no explanation why, banned from youtube,insta, telegram... Still on bitchute. So i thought, why would they go after this video with no explanation.

Clayton Breaks apart why clean Pineal Gland is very important, If it does remove all graphine oxide, mercury aluminum and alike bad metals from Pineal Gland , liver and other organs, this means you become a 4D being, this is my speculation why the video is being banned everywhere. When you have no Brain Fog, Perfect Heart Beat, no stress, zero alhzemier or parkinsons disease, if you are healthy you are a threat. I can't think any other reasons why they wuld bn the video because thats all Clayton talks about. I mean i seen not a lot but few people who were vaxed saying they never felt better using it. So if it does help why ban the video? makes no sense.

because making people better doesn't fit the narrative, idk why the fda just don't go ahead and name themselves Pfizer ffs!
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I mean, look at the science!! kratom for all intensive purposes isn't supposed to replace their opiates, still 1000's have found success by anecdotal evidence and word of mouth led us to these boards, and judging by this mega thread I'm suprised some people have found us at all to be honest
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CatfatherB wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:12 pm I mean, look at the science!! kratom for all intensive purposes isn't supposed to replace their opiates, still 1000's have found success by anecdotal evidence and word of mouth led us to these boards, and judging by this mega thread I'm suprised some people have found us at all to be honest
Kratom is not a replacement for opiates, just like all of these home remedies aren't a replacement for masks and vaccinations and social distancing.

If you have spinal reconstructive surgery, you will not want kratom. You'll want oxymorphone or hydromorphone or morphine. We objectively know that kratom doesn't have the efficacy for the mu-opioid receptors required to treat severe pain. There are quantitative values (ki, km, kd, IC50, EC50, etc) that are used to gain a rough idea of the efficacy of agonists/antagonists so we can actually measure their effect in a tangible way, without a need for relying on anecdotal evidence.

This doesn't mean kratom won't help some people, but it does mean that there are more effective drugs. Anecdotal experience is not trustworthy. If you went by anecdotal experience, you could easily spend time in those quitting kratom groups and walk away thinking kratom withdrawal makes your hair fall out, makes you totally lose your libido, migraines, all sorts of stuff... Anecdotal 'evidence' is not really evidence because it relies on correlation, not causation. What I'm talking about above, that is causation.

If you let anecdotal evidence guide you, you are letting your emotions guide you.
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Wish Americans in the “free world” had access to low cost early treatment too.
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FINALLY some common sense from MSM

WSJ article: The High Cost of Disparaging Natural Immunity to Covid

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-high-c ... 1643214336


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“Politicians and public-health officials owe an apology to Americans who lost their jobs on the false premises that only unvaccinated people could spread the virus and only vaccination could prevent its spread. Soldiers who have been dishonorably discharged should be restored their rank. Teachers, first responders, and others who have been denied their livelihood should be reinstated. Everyone is essential.”
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Damn you guys are massively misinformed.
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StringThing wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:42 pm Damn you guys are massively misinformed.
This is what i think about you. you have no science backing you up anything you say. Everyone knows Ivermectin works and other cheap alternatives, like kratom, you consider everything anecdotal judging how you reply, you think you have science but you dont. I really dont know what you are trying to achieve at this point? Beside miss info of your own. YOUR OWN. You do realize how you think will get more people dead? unless thats what you want? Beside that, best advice for you is to jump on the good side and support meds that work... dont be an ass hole. I get very bad vibes from you and i am sure many here feel the same. Its like something is blocking your mind to see the truth. Time for you to jump to 4D THINKING or be left behind. I am losing interest in chating with you or wasting any time if you continue you BS claiming we are misinform.

What is miss informed for you? why did you say that? i am calling you out. everyone see that your not a good person unless you change your ways everyone will know you are for team humanity. So far you did not prove you care about people, this what makes me not want talking to you, your answers are wishy washy. Get real science like you tell me to back your self up not your own opinions. Like calling us missinformed and not pointing out what part? If its about Ivermectin, there is plenty of science it kills Rona, you dont need to go far to look what Indians use. be reasonable if you want respect. Using the word Science to hide behind is getting OLD. There is always to sides to science. you pick the fake one it feels. Maybe herbal hippie can advice you to back your self up with miss informed comment INSULT. I dont even know why you are getting any attention from me. You are losing respect how you behave, i really hope you ponder and think about your comment, if you delete it i will know you care about peoples health. Unless your on the DARK side. You will be on ignore list if you dont explain your behavior. You did say in another post to call you out if you over step boundary's, you did. This is people's life your playing with. I dont know you but everyone i know does not want to end up in a hospital these days because of Remdisivir and Vent protocol. If you did not have any close family ending up in the hospital, your lucky, not until it hits close to your heart someone you care you will remember my words when you hear from a Dr. saying your special one has kidney failure, might as well close your eyes and never ask if they gave her remdesivir. I am not mad at you String, i am just wondering how your thought process works? I am really trying to understand you, by you saying we are miss informed..... I dont think i am misinformed or Kaliegirl. kalieGirl always made clear sense to me, infact more clear then your posts. If it was conscious insult to aggravate us, i think you will never get a reply from me again. I do care about you String, its just not how you approach, i find it very very offensive.
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THAT'S ENOUGH

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herbalhippie wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:19 pm THAT'S ENOUGH

You can challenge a person's beliefs without attacking the person.
TY Herbal Hippie, all i did is trying to understand strings belief on why he said what he said. In my eye's i already said why i think he is the one miss informed on cheap meds that work and not allowed to be given to people. Maybe he didnt know that? there could be many reasons why he said that, but i dont want to assume to much here. I wish String good health and to never end up in a Hospital. I really do, i dont think he knows how bad it is there right now. When it's affecting my friends, i have no choice but to call out those who playing GOD and calling us Miss informed with out given any reason to why they thought that.

On a side note i did meet 2 nurses in the past 2 years, they are scared whats going on in hospitals but rather keep mouth shut because they need somehow to support their family and kids. This info is more wide spread on local levels then anyone realizes. Yes if they start mandatory injection or lose job, they will leave because they know they will lose job and health either way. I think its more clear, and people see it better whats going, yes at first even i was confused, yes i was sick too like most of you but whats going on right now is unacceptable by any means or standards.
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brave777 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:33 pm
herbalhippie wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:19 pm THAT'S ENOUGH

You can challenge a person's beliefs without attacking the person.
TY Herbal Hippie, all i did is trying to understand strings belief on why he said what he said. In my eye's i already said why i think he is the one miss informed on cheap meds that work and not allowed to be given to people. Maybe he didnt know that? there could be many reasons why he said that, but i dont want to assume to much here. I wish String good health and to never end up in a Hospital. I really do, i dont think he knows how bad it is there right now. When it's affecting my friends, i have no choice but to call out those who playing GOD and calling us Miss informed with out given any reason to why they thought that.

On a side note i did meet 2 nurses in the past 2 years, they are scared whats going on in hospitals but rather keep mouth shut because they need somehow to support their family and kids. This info is more wide spread on local levels then anyone realizes. Yes if they start mandatory injection or lose job, they will leave because they know they will lose job and health either way. I think its more clear, and people see it better whats going, yes at first even i was confused, yes i was sick too like most of you but whats going on right now is unacceptable by any means or standards.
My father in law just died in a hospital. The experience was tramatic for my wife and her mother. It was the most inhumane thing i have ever witnessed. He went in with double pneumonia and was starting to get better off a bipape machine. He was very closterphobic so after a week of having a full face mask on he wanted to take a break from it. So he started taking it off. They wouldnt let him so they tied his hands down and give him something to calm him down. That stopped his heart and he flatlined. Passed on Jan 10th. Prior to They would not let us talk to him, wouldnt return our phone calls for the week he was in there. Found out they weren't feeding him or bathing him for several days. We got this info from 1 really nice nurse who told us to keep calling and asking about these things. They also wouldnt try any of what they call secondary treatments like ivermectin or HCQ. This wasnt a shitty hospital either. Its only a couple years old and supposed to be one of the best in the area. These people working in here were heartless i heard it with my own ears.
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KalieGirl wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:41 pm
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Wish Americans in the “free world” had access to low cost early treatment too.
Yea no kidding. That stuff is in every other country but this one. And its been around for decades. Also it is safer than Tylenol. Who cares if I take it at least make sure its available to those who want it. Free country right?
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Covid 19: A Second Opinion
“Discussion begins around 40 minute mark. Sen. Ron Johnson moderates a panel discussion, COVID-19: A Second Opinion. A group of world renowned doctors and medical experts provide a different perspective on the global pandemic response, the current state of knowledge of early and hospital treatment, vaccine efficacy and safety, what went right, what went wrong, what should be done now, and what needs to be addressed long term.”

https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-se ... inion.html

This round table discussion is approximately 5 hours long. I have viewed it twice. For the love of yourself, you family, your friends, and all of humanity please do yourself a favor and listen. Whether you are pro-vax, anti vax, or somewhere in the middle it is worth your time and attention! I understand that the topic of the virus and vaccines is controversial and heated. It is ok to feel that way as the last 2 years has taken a toll on everyone. I think we all have questions and want to learn about what went right and what went wrong in our country’s pandemic response so we can do better in the future. We also deserve full disclosure and access to the data from the CDC and FDA that guided public health policy including age and risk stratified numbers and severity of covid cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. We also need full disclosure of clinical trial data for the vaccines as well as vaccine adverse events, deaths, and all cause mortality for trial participants pre FDA EUA authorization and post vaccine rollout. By law the FDA must disclose the trial data and the ingredients and chemical structure of the vaccines post licensure. The FDA and Pfizer are joined together to actively block this process. We should be asking.. why?
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Roofdog wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:36 pm
brave777 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:33 pm
herbalhippie wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:19 pm THAT'S ENOUGH

You can challenge a person's beliefs without attacking the person.
TY Herbal Hippie, all i did is trying to understand strings belief on why he said what he said. In my eye's i already said why i think he is the one miss informed on cheap meds that work and not allowed to be given to people. Maybe he didnt know that? there could be many reasons why he said that, but i dont want to assume to much here. I wish String good health and to never end up in a Hospital. I really do, i dont think he knows how bad it is there right now. When it's affecting my friends, i have no choice but to call out those who playing GOD and calling us Miss informed with out given any reason to why they thought that.

On a side note i did meet 2 nurses in the past 2 years, they are scared whats going on in hospitals but rather keep mouth shut because they need somehow to support their family and kids. This info is more wide spread on local levels then anyone realizes. Yes if they start mandatory injection or lose job, they will leave because they know they will lose job and health either way. I think its more clear, and people see it better whats going, yes at first even i was confused, yes i was sick too like most of you but whats going on right now is unacceptable by any means or standards.
My father in law just died in a hospital. The experience was tramatic for my wife and her mother. It was the most inhumane thing i have ever witnessed. He went in with double pneumonia and was starting to get better off a bipape machine. He was very closterphobic so after a week of having a full face mask on he wanted to take a break from it. So he started taking it off. They wouldnt let him so they tied his hands down and give him something to calm him down. That stopped his heart and he flatlined. Passed on Jan 10th. Prior to They would not let us talk to him, wouldnt return our phone calls for the week he was in there. Found out they weren't feeding him or bathing him for several days. We got this info from 1 really nice nurse who told us to keep calling and asking about these things. They also wouldnt try any of what they call secondary treatments like ivermectin or HCQ. This wasnt a shitty hospital either. Its only a couple years old and supposed to be one of the best in the area. These people working in here were heartless i heard it with my own ears.
Roofdog, my sincere condolences… my heart breaks for you, your father, and your whole family. 😢❤️
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KalieGirl wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:51 pm
Roofdog wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:36 pm
brave777 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:33 pm

TY Herbal Hippie, all i did is trying to understand strings belief on why he said what he said. In my eye's i already said why i think he is the one miss informed on cheap meds that work and not allowed to be given to people. Maybe he didnt know that? there could be many reasons why he said that, but i dont want to assume to much here. I wish String good health and to never end up in a Hospital. I really do, i dont think he knows how bad it is there right now. When it's affecting my friends, i have no choice but to call out those who playing GOD and calling us Miss informed with out given any reason to why they thought that.

On a side note i did meet 2 nurses in the past 2 years, they are scared whats going on in hospitals but rather keep mouth shut because they need somehow to support their family and kids. This info is more wide spread on local levels then anyone realizes. Yes if they start mandatory injection or lose job, they will leave because they know they will lose job and health either way. I think its more clear, and people see it better whats going, yes at first even i was confused, yes i was sick too like most of you but whats going on right now is unacceptable by any means or standards.
My father in law just died in a hospital. The experience was tramatic for my wife and her mother. It was the most inhumane thing i have ever witnessed. He went in with double pneumonia and was starting to get better off a bipape machine. He was very closterphobic so after a week of having a full face mask on he wanted to take a break from it. So he started taking it off. They wouldnt let him so they tied his hands down and give him something to calm him down. That stopped his heart and he flatlined. Passed on Jan 10th. Prior to They would not let us talk to him, wouldnt return our phone calls for the week he was in there. Found out they weren't feeding him or bathing him for several days. We got this info from 1 really nice nurse who told us to keep calling and asking about these things. They also wouldnt try any of what they call secondary treatments like ivermectin or HCQ. This wasnt a shitty hospital either. Its only a couple years old and supposed to be one of the best in the area. These people working in here were heartless i heard it with my own ears.
Roofdog, my sincere condolences… my heart breaks for you, your father, and your whole family. 😢❤️
Thank you for yourcomment. Still trying to put things back together. I have a strong family though. God bless!!
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Roofdog wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:36 pmMy father in law just died in a hospital. The experience was tramatic for my wife and her mother. It was the most inhumane thing i have ever witnessed. He went in with double pneumonia and was starting to get better off a bipape machine. He was very closterphobic so after a week of having a full face mask on he wanted to take a break from it. So he started taking it off. They wouldnt let him so they tied his hands down and give him something to calm him down. That stopped his heart and he flatlined. Passed on Jan 10th. Prior to They would not let us talk to him, wouldnt return our phone calls for the week he was in there. Found out they weren't feeding him or bathing him for several days. We got this info from 1 really nice nurse who told us to keep calling and asking about these things. They also wouldnt try any of what they call secondary treatments like ivermectin or HCQ. This wasnt a shitty hospital either. Its only a couple years old and supposed to be one of the best in the area. These people working in here were heartless i heard it with my own ears.
Was your father in law vaccinated?
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KalieGirl wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:49 pm Covid 19: A Second Opinion
“Discussion begins around 40 minute mark. Sen. Ron Johnson moderates a panel discussion, COVID-19: A Second Opinion. A group of world renowned doctors and medical experts provide a different perspective on the global pandemic response, the current state of knowledge of early and hospital treatment, vaccine efficacy and safety, what went right, what went wrong, what should be done now, and what needs to be addressed long term.”

https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-se ... inion.html

This round table discussion is approximately 5 hours long. I have viewed it twice. For the love of yourself, you family, your friends, and all of humanity please do yourself a favor and listen. Whether you are pro-vax, anti vax, or somewhere in the middle it is worth your time and attention! I understand that the topic of the virus and vaccines is controversial and heated. It is ok to feel that way as the last 2 years has taken a toll on everyone. I think we all have questions and want to learn about what went right and what went wrong in our country’s pandemic response so we can do better in the future. We also deserve full disclosure and access to the data from the CDC and FDA that guided public health policy including age and risk stratified numbers and severity of covid cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. We also need full disclosure of clinical trial data for the vaccines as well as vaccine adverse events, deaths, and all cause mortality for trial participants pre FDA EUA authorization and post vaccine rollout. By law the FDA must disclose the trial data and the ingredients and chemical structure of the vaccines post licensure. The FDA and Pfizer are joined together to actively block this process. We should be asking.. why?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... -mandates/


Your 'experts' say the vaccine isn't working.

Pass.
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