The Ukraine Situation
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ha ha ha ha
Republicans - Biden isn't doing enough to stop this!
*Biden does something.
Also Republicans - "Biden is dragging us into a war!"
Republicans - Biden isn't doing enough to stop this!
*Biden does something.
Also Republicans - "Biden is dragging us into a war!"
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Well, what else can you expect from Republicans?herbalhippie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:33 pm ha ha ha ha
Republicans - Biden isn't doing enough to stop this!
*Biden does something.
Also Republicans - "Biden is dragging us into a war!"
This is why they invented Tyranol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS9d6h8ZwPU
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https://russian.rt.com/ussr/article/973 ... acionalizm
“Nationalist propaganda unfolded around Babi Yar”: historian Mikhail Myagkov on the memory of the victims of the Holocaust
This is some fucked up propaganda from Russia. They bombed Babi Yar, then publish this shit.
professor at MGIMO Mikhail Myagkov told RT how Ukrainian nationalists helped the Nazis carry out mass executions at Babi Yar.
Whole article talks about Nazis, and how 'Ukrainian nationalists' helped them. But Ukrainian nationalists in 1941 would've been fighting the Nazis for the Soviets... like Zelenskyy's grandfather. It's also totally irrelevant to 2022. I'm seriously baffled at how ridiculous the propaganda is getting. It seems to almost be implying that Ukrainians as a people are racist Nazis. De-humanization in action.
“Nationalist propaganda unfolded around Babi Yar”: historian Mikhail Myagkov on the memory of the victims of the Holocaust
This is some fucked up propaganda from Russia. They bombed Babi Yar, then publish this shit.
professor at MGIMO Mikhail Myagkov told RT how Ukrainian nationalists helped the Nazis carry out mass executions at Babi Yar.
Whole article talks about Nazis, and how 'Ukrainian nationalists' helped them. But Ukrainian nationalists in 1941 would've been fighting the Nazis for the Soviets... like Zelenskyy's grandfather. It's also totally irrelevant to 2022. I'm seriously baffled at how ridiculous the propaganda is getting. It seems to almost be implying that Ukrainians as a people are racist Nazis. De-humanization in action.
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https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 809b446db3
Airstrike hits Ukraine maternity hospital, 17 reported hurt
Airstrike hits Ukraine maternity hospital, 17 reported hurt
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Fucking war crimes. 
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Man, even without the attacks on children and women, Russia is using illegal weapons. Have seen Russian butterfly mines all over Ukrainian telegram groups. These are super dangerous because you can't just transport them. They explode after a certain pressure has been built... so if it hits that point while you're carrying it to a disposal location--boom.
Also
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... -rcna19391
U.S. warns Russia could use chemical weapons in false-flag operation in Ukraine
Get ready
Also
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... -rcna19391
U.S. warns Russia could use chemical weapons in false-flag operation in Ukraine
Get ready
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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT COUNTRY???????
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I actually had to take a break from it last night. No r/worldnews, no r/Ukraine.
No, I'm not on Reddit all day doomscrolling. I mod two subs, I'm modding all day AND doomscrolling.
omg
I actually had to take a break from it last night. No r/worldnews, no r/Ukraine.
No, I'm not on Reddit all day doomscrolling. I mod two subs, I'm modding all day AND doomscrolling.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/co ... iling_and/
I don't know if this makes you feel better or worse but it DID make me smile
I don't know if this makes you feel better or worse but it DID make me smile
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AWWWWW!!!!StringThing wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:08 pm https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/co ... iling_and/
I don't know if this makes you feel better or worse but it DID make me smile
*sobs
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https://www.wral.com/us-rep-madison-caw ... /20180199/
US Rep. Madison Cawthorn calls Ukrainian president a 'thug'
This is such an asinine thing to say about Zelenskyy. If you want to insult him, call him a joke, at least. Maybe a clown? A brave clown, to be sure. But he's not a thug. Putin is a thug. Literally a former member of a state authorized gang that engaged in criminal activity.
I cannot think of a more courageous leader in modern times than Zelenskyy and it blows my mind to see statements like this
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 2d4cf54989
Satellite photos show breakup of Russian convoy outside Kyiv
I don't know if this is good or bad. They'll be harder to target now.
US Rep. Madison Cawthorn calls Ukrainian president a 'thug'
This is such an asinine thing to say about Zelenskyy. If you want to insult him, call him a joke, at least. Maybe a clown? A brave clown, to be sure. But he's not a thug. Putin is a thug. Literally a former member of a state authorized gang that engaged in criminal activity.
I cannot think of a more courageous leader in modern times than Zelenskyy and it blows my mind to see statements like this
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 2d4cf54989
Satellite photos show breakup of Russian convoy outside Kyiv
I don't know if this is good or bad. They'll be harder to target now.
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... aign=cppst
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 022-03-10/
Russia says China refuses to supply aircraft parts after sanctions
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 022-03-10/
Russia says China refuses to supply aircraft parts after sanctions
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhkvcjEODJY
Regular russian repeating the party line
Youtube lets you auto translate. Its not perfect... but its enough. This 'human shields' rhetoric is so disgusting
Regular russian repeating the party line
Youtube lets you auto translate. Its not perfect... but its enough. This 'human shields' rhetoric is so disgusting
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How to convince someone who is arguing that Ukrainians are Nazists? Show them which parties were voted and represent the Ukrainian Parlament
How to convince someone who is arguing that Ukrainians are Nazists? Show them which parties were voted and represent the Ukrainian Parlament
This is something that is brought up by many Russians but also quite some westerners, how Ukraine is full of Nazis and Putin is fighting those. I think its pretty clear that this is BS to most people, but how do you argue those who truly believe that? One angle can be to look at the parties which were voted by the Ukrainians in the last election into the Parlament. Surely a good majority of them will be right wing parties? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... in_Ukraine well guess what, big majority is a Center party.
People keep bringing up Azov Battalion and the likes, but never mention that those are very minorities of Ukrainians. It is estimated to consist of ~2500 members. They also have a far right party 'National Corps' together with other right wing movements. They got only ~2% of the votes in the last election and no seats in the parliament. For comparisons sake, here in Germany the right wing party 'AFD' got ~10% of the votes during last selection.
Those right/Nazims tendencies exist in most countries. And it is fair to criticize Ukraine for tolerating them. But spreading how all or even a majority of Ukrainians are nazis, you're making a tool out of yourself for Russian propaganda, legitimating this horrible War.
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Zelenskyy's party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_of_the_People
Trying to find the Nazi ideology????? Can't find it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_of_the_People
Trying to find the Nazi ideology????? Can't find it.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... irst-time/
China calls conflict in Ukraine a 'war' for the first time
https://www.reuters.com/world/chinese-f ... 022-03-10/
Chinese foreign minister says he hopes Ukraine war will stop as soon as possible
People are worried about China, but I think their stance became pretty obvious when they called Ukraine a sovereign nation. This adds even more reassurance that they want nothing to do with this. Xi has made similar statements too.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/china/ch ... index.html
China's promotion of Russian disinformation indicates where its loyalties lie
I've been noticing that articles which try to 'China scare' people usually reference dumb shit like social media.
Like, I don't care what people are posting on social media. That's not news. Heads of state making statements? That's news. That's indicative of the government's desires. Cherry picked segments of the population don't tell me anything
China calls conflict in Ukraine a 'war' for the first time
https://www.reuters.com/world/chinese-f ... 022-03-10/
Chinese foreign minister says he hopes Ukraine war will stop as soon as possible
People are worried about China, but I think their stance became pretty obvious when they called Ukraine a sovereign nation. This adds even more reassurance that they want nothing to do with this. Xi has made similar statements too.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/china/ch ... index.html
China's promotion of Russian disinformation indicates where its loyalties lie
I've been noticing that articles which try to 'China scare' people usually reference dumb shit like social media.
A CNN analysis reviewed nearly 5,000 social media posts from 14 Chinese state media outlets during the first eight days of Russia's invasion posted onto China's Twitter-like platform, Weibo. The analysis found that of the more than 300 most-shared posts about the events in Ukraine -- which were each shared more than 1,000 times -- almost half, about 140, were what CNN classified as distinctly pro-Russian, often containing information attributed to a Russian official or picked up directly from Russia's state media.
Like, I don't care what people are posting on social media. That's not news. Heads of state making statements? That's news. That's indicative of the government's desires. Cherry picked segments of the population don't tell me anything
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoXem8VtgPA
So this guy who interviews Russians on the street is starting to mute people who say illegal stuff... like calling the 'special operation' a war or spreading other 'misinformation.'
Pretty nuts to see the drastic change.
So this guy who interviews Russians on the street is starting to mute people who say illegal stuff... like calling the 'special operation' a war or spreading other 'misinformation.'
Pretty nuts to see the drastic change.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rrest.html
Putin 'has placed the head of the FSB's foreign intelligence branch under house arrest because he is furious at security services for failing to warn him' that Ukraine could fiercely resist invasion
Not 100% trusting this because its dailymail but will be pretty easy to verify if this is true. Nothing about it on RT news yet but it seems pretty likely with the way he's been lashing out at his generals and other high ranking staff.
Putin 'has placed the head of the FSB's foreign intelligence branch under house arrest because he is furious at security services for failing to warn him' that Ukraine could fiercely resist invasion
Among the reasons for the repressions are the embezzlement of funds allocated for subversive and undercover work in Ukraine, as well as deliberately false information about the political situation in Ukraine.
The FSB security service allegedly handed him intelligence suggesting that Ukraine was weak, riddled with neo-Nazi groups, and would give up easily if attacked.
Not 100% trusting this because its dailymail but will be pretty easy to verify if this is true. Nothing about it on RT news yet but it seems pretty likely with the way he's been lashing out at his generals and other high ranking staff.
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You know, I really have mixed feelings about all of the businesses pulling out of Russia. On the one hand, these places can't support a piece of shit like Putin, but on the other hand this is the jobs and food of normal everyday people like us, for the most part.
Is this really hurting Putin? What do you guys think?
Is this really hurting Putin? What do you guys think?
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The problem is we dont really know whats going on in Russia since most news is cut off, even i dont know much wtf is going on, last time i heard they added one letter or something and even kept same colors of MC Donalds places and made it more organic, more healthy foods. Russians are happy. Russian people are not starving, they provide food wheat and other stuff all around the world, i assume since dolor is banned they will use their own Ruble.MetalMamaRocks wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:29 pm You know, I really have mixed feelings about all of the businesses pulling out of Russia. On the one hand, these places can't support a piece of shit like Putin, but on the other hand this is the jobs and food of normal everyday people like us, for the most part.
Is this really hurting Putin? What do you guys think?
Only news even on rumlne and bitshute is about ukrain and not Russia. Their is way to muce miss info just how it was like c19, c19 was forgotten and i believe ukrain will be forgotten as well as i see not one nato aliance want to go to ukrain and protect ukranian people, only people suffer is ukranians from weird extreme groups no one even knows where they came from... And hired people who are for the big buck, sucks no one cant even escape ukrain. Ukraians should not be suffering like that, they do not deserve that.
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Yeah, it's true, we don't really know what's going on over there. I think most Russians don't support the war, at least I hope they don't.
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You have been wrong multiple times in this thread. I don't think you really read up on the situation and you've repeatedly said you don't know what's going on. Your opinions mostly parrot what I see on right wing conspiracy sites.brave777 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:31 amThe problem is we dont really know whats going on in Russia since most news is cut off, even i dont know much wtf is going on, last time i heard they added one letter or something and even kept same colors of MC Donalds places and made it more organic, more healthy foods. Russians are happy. Russian people are not starving, they provide food wheat and other stuff all around the world, i assume since dolor is banned they will use their own Ruble.MetalMamaRocks wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:29 pm You know, I really have mixed feelings about all of the businesses pulling out of Russia. On the one hand, these places can't support a piece of shit like Putin, but on the other hand this is the jobs and food of normal everyday people like us, for the most part.
Is this really hurting Putin? What do you guys think?
Only news even on rumlne and bitshute is about ukrain and not Russia. Their is way to muce miss info just how it was like c19, c19 was forgotten and i believe ukrain will be forgotten as well as i see not one nato aliance want to go to ukrain and protect ukranian people, only people suffer is ukranians from weird extreme groups no one even knows where they came from... And hired people who are for the big buck, sucks no one cant even escape ukrain. Ukraians should not be suffering like that, they do not deserve that.
Russians are happy? Dude lol. Not starving?? What?
Exporting wheat has nothing to do with them not being starving. Lots of famines happen BECAUSE of over-exporting. It's also waaaay too early for domestic supply to be effected to that degree so I don't know why you are talking about 'starving'. They do have very heavy sanctions and people are fleeing the country en masse.
Also... most news is not cut off lmao. I can still access RT news and all Russian media just fine. There is independent media in Russia you can follow. There is tons of tandem media with verifiable EXIF data.
and lol @ calling Uncle Vanya 'organic' and 'healthy'. It's not. They sell lots of different foods, some of which are organic. The fake Mcdonalds they have sell fast food just like mcdonalds. The menu is almost identical and they even look the same inside.
That bit about them using the Ruble instead of the dollar is nonsensical. Do you think they're trading wheat to China with dollars???? lol
If you take a more active role in your education, you will find yourself in these positions less and less.
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ok, can someone explain, very simply as to a child, wtheck is going on Ukraine/Russia? Just bulletpoints.
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Russians in Russia are used to living in harsh ways/cold weather and just in general, almost every family has its own garden even if there was no money system, they would trade with each other what they got. You might be right they might still using dolor with china and others, i might not be educate on it but i know basics is enough. The other day i watched youtuber "vika trap" she showed how many are selling real mc donald souces and even empty mc donald bags up to 1,000 ruble. So she decided to buy some souce and bags and ask them questions while she was at it it. Russians love mc donald dearly, they are very sad its going away is the vibes i got. What choice they got ? I stopped watching RT long time ago when i found out its propaganda from Russia. I prefer listen someone who does their own study and not get paid by anyone. Once paid, be it RT or CNN, not my cup of tea. String, bitchute and rumble is enough for me, even though you understand both sides clearly from it. Right, left, any wings, the picture will form what is really cooking. Like almost every video from ukrain, same videos been seen all around the world. You see two sides to it, but if you watch main stream you only see one sided porn, Everyone knows its something fishy and yet no one knows what going on is because you dont see te two sides... I just know, not one person wants this war, including me, and i am glad nato too. I think if Nato went in Russia would for sure nuke us. Honestly i think Nato saved us fro ww3 . I got my fingers crossed for all sides to do talks around their own tables to end this insanity. Whats sad is an ordinary regular Ukrainians are suffering. By the way thanks for being detailed, did not know it was Uncle Vanya, its a pretty popular Russian slang name. Kinda like Uncle Sam. Its like broken telephone game. String iam sure you know more about this Ukraine subject so open minded here to hear your view points. This does affect me and my Ukrainian friends.
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Ukraine On Fire - Oliver Stone - 2016IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:24 am ok, can someone explain, very simply as to a child, wtheck is going on Ukraine/Russia? Just bulletpoints.
https://rumble.com/vw7ykf-ukraine-on-fi ... -2016.html
Its an 2016 but might give you some clues. Most banned video about Ukraine, so your at your own risk if you watch it.
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LOLbrave777 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:44 am String, bitchute and rumble is enough for me, even though you understand both sides clearly from it. Right, left, any wings, the picture will form what is really cooking. Like almost every video from ukrain, same videos been seen all around the world. You see two sides to it, but if you watch main stream you only see one sided porn, Everyone knows its something fishy and yet no one knows what going on is because you dont see te two sides... I just know, not one person wants this war, including me, and i am glad nato too. I think if Nato went in Russia would for sure nuke us. Honestly i think Nato saved us fro ww3 . I got my fingers crossed for all sides to do talks around their own tables to end this insanity. Whats sad is an ordinary regular Ukrainians are suffering. By the way thanks for being detailed, did not know it was Uncle Vanya, its a pretty popular Russian slang name. Kinda like Uncle Sam. Its like broken telephone game. String iam sure you know more about this Ukraine subject so open minded here to hear your view points. This does affect me and my Ukrainian friends.
Bitchute and Rumble are blatantly alt-right/'independent'/Qanon/evangelical based
EVERYONE who is into these conspiracy theories that you are in, belives they are 'center' and seeing all angles. I have seen this so many times. It is definitively more LIBERTARIAN than the politics pushed by establishment conservatives in the west, but it's still far to the right. Economic right and social right.
You keep saying 'main stream media' like its one single entity.Redacted
I do not 'watch mainstream media' or view one side. If you'll notice, in this thread I get my news from all over. AP News has ~200yrs of damn accurate and straight reporting so I tend to go to them. Reuters is similar. Some BBC outlets are not too bad. Russian propaganda and Chinese propaganda are a must to understand this situation. I like RT News and China Daily or People's Daily. I consider Business Insider, CNN, FOX, and BBC to be the 'western Propaganda'. Independent news is usually biased as fuck and has poor fact checking, but following the right sources can save you some time researching.
How can you think Bitchute and Rumble give you a clear picture of all sides? Two fringe video hosting websites filled with conspiracy theories.... places ANYBODY can post. Zero fact checking and zero accountability for anything said on those platforms. Pretty much, people just go there to see what they 'feel' like believing in. Whatever makes 'sense' to them and whatever seems 'logical'. Totally warps your perception of the world and creates cognitive bias. Its a bubble.
I haven't been posting itt lately but I do keep up with the situation. We have a very clear idea of what's going on in Ukraine. There is a 'fog of war', yes, but its not so thick that the entire world's media, with all their satellites and intelligence gathering, could all be fooled at the same time. Western intelligence has been damn accurate and predicted Putin's every single move. They definitely have a mole high up or something.
Right now, Putin is fucked. Last week the US accused Putin of considering chemical weapons and recently he used white phosphorous. Lets see if he uses more chemical weapons. These kinds of weapons are the only power he has, because he is getting absolutely wrecked. US intelligence says he wants to end this war by May 9, but who knows.
US also used white phosphorous when they were getting buttfucked. It burns whole neighborhoods. Napalm for cities that melts concrete. Wounds from these weapons can catch on fire days later due to explosive residue. It's gruesome stuff.
Also right now, the US is developing a contingency plan in case of a nuclear strike or breach into NATO territory. US officials are saying any use of nuclear weapons will result in WW3. I'm not worried that they are developing this plan though... I'm worried that they are talking about developing the plan in public. It seems like Putin is actively weighing out nuclear options because there was actually a flood of this type of news from multiple countries 2 days ago. Seems like they're thinking about attacking UK specifically as a 'show of power' but it could be anywhere else. We have much smaller nuclear arms these days that would not destroy cities... however, Putin HAS said previously that he wouldn't waste time on 'small attacks'. Who knows what will happen.
Pretty clear view on what's HAPPENING though. If you don't see it, you aren't really trying to inform yourself on the situation. You just want to be fed information by a source you trust, and that source is telling you that there are 'two sides' to this argument. Please read some Indian news, Lithuanian news, Chinese news, Mexican news, etc. It's literally the whole world vs Putin on this. Even China will not back Putin's invasion.
But ah, you believe in 'globalist' boogeymen. SO clearly, China, SEA, USA, Europe, etc... all part of the globalist plot right? Two sides and all that.
Please keep it civil, String. And we're moving forward from what was said in the past. Thanks.
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It's not a simple situation unfortunately.IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:24 am ok, can someone explain, very simply as to a child, wtheck is going on Ukraine/Russia? Just bulletpoints.
What do you not understand about what's going on?
This is Putin's ideological war to unite the Slavic world. Russia has invaded multiple countries to achieve this since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. It's been talked about for decades. We knew this is what Putin wanted all along... we just didn't know he would actually do anything about it until like November/December when he started building troops at the border for 'exercises' and evidence got leaked that he was planning a full scale invasion. Putin called this evidence fake, then proceeded to invade days later, doing EXACTLY what US intelligence said Putin would do. Pinch attack aimed at Kiev. Previously Putin invaded Crimea in preparation for this and he also helped keep Lukashenko (Belarusian dictator) in power through a damn near coup. This is what helped him launch his attack. He has probably been planning this for a good 10-15yrs.
Putin claims that this is because of genocide against Russians, which is completely unfounded. Even the racists in Ukraine, like those in the Azov battalion, would consider Russians to be 'one of theirs'. They're mostly racist against like, Turkish people and other Muslims. There's a considerable population of Muslims in Crimea. Putin hasn't been able to identify a single concentration camp or any terrorist organization involved in this so called genocide. I routinely check Russian media for that kind of stuff, they are VERY vague when talking about these so called 'Nazis' they are fighting. If you consume enough Russian media you will see a pattern... they really don't have anything noteworthy to say. It's a lot of 'history lessons' and implication with lots of hyperbolic statements.
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Oh, nope. That's it for me on this board.
Won't continue posting where my comments are censored.
Won't continue posting where my comments are censored.
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String, you know we rarely censor here but that comment was absolutely incendiary and it's been gone over already. There's no reason to go there again and there's no reason to make my job as a moderator any harder than it is. You know I appreciate you as a poster, but I also appreciate our other members. Trying to keep a delicate balance here.StringThing wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:53 pm Oh, nope. That's it for me on this board.
Won't continue posting where my comments are censored.
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I dont take sides, i take truth sides. You keep saying PUTIN PUTIN PUTIN to chop his name up like he is some kind of evil dictator. I talked to random Americans, they love for what he stands and Putin is for his slavic russian people in russia only, most Americans understand that and wish USA was the same. He cares about his country, yes i know he dont care about USA but dont presidents suppose to protect their own country a their own people??? You keep saying Bitchute and rumble is not reliable and you have zero proof but to call everything conspiracy. Do you not know with such high gas prices and food prices people feeling something is terribly wrong and turn to conspiracy as facts? I know bitchute and rumble has fake conspiracy and real conspiracy that fake no more. At least smart people can cherry pick trough trash can of alternative to dig up truth. All the videos i saw about Putin entering the stage with tons of people on stadium with no body guards says a lot how much Russian people love him. If people didnt love him, he would not be a president for 22 years. Dont lie to your self that people in Russia dont like him, they LOVE HIM dearly. He openly stated publicly there wont be no new world order and for that is worth hating him? This where hate was born. Why not sit down and honestly ask your self, is Putin really a bad guy? like really really ask your self this questions. He is not going to nuke anyone he knows just like all countries this is not the time and age to use nukes because if them elites underground will have zero chance surviving this. Like 10 years ago had a dream that east side exploded and i just flew up out of the body confused but it it did seem like a bom. I am not taking sides, just trying to prevent nukes if possible and find the middle ground to understanding things. If you still dont understand most people dont watch RT or CNN or channels alike. I am a huge pod casters fan, and most people i know listen to pod casts, this is the age we live of pod casting, people like joe rogan and similar are on front stage. We trust them more then any main stream and all these hired good looking women, i just picture them ugly zombies because i know they have zero opinion of their own and sing the same hook lines as many main stream media does. we as people are tired of that we want real people talking to us and most that close to heart is pod casters who do it out of love for humanity, sure they might be wrong sometimes but thats why you have your own brain and at least you can think for your self and not get linked with the sing hole punch lines. Give me any solutions to both sides of fixing things and i am all yours, lets not divide things here. Also i didnt see what herbal hippie removed but i found nothing offensive and i do understand your thought patterns, you never know maybe even one day we might have a beer together. I am a very understanding person and you did mention somethings that iam not sure about and you might be right. Everyone comes from a different angle as long as its civil and no personal attacks, i open to to seeing how you see things and where you coming from... I hate liars badly, try to be truthful and i will be your friend for ever. I also love people who think for them selfs even if they are wrong i have a huge respect at least it wasn't another sing hole punch line.StringThing wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:49 pmIt's not a simple situation unfortunately.IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:24 am ok, can someone explain, very simply as to a child, wtheck is going on Ukraine/Russia? Just bulletpoints.
What do you not understand about what's going on?
This is Putin's ideological war to unite the Slavic world. Russia has invaded multiple countries to achieve this since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. It's been talked about for decades. We knew this is what Putin wanted all along... we just didn't know he would actually do anything about it until like November/December when he started building troops at the border for 'exercises' and evidence got leaked that he was planning a full scale invasion. Putin called this evidence fake, then proceeded to invade days later, doing EXACTLY what US intelligence said Putin would do. Pinch attack aimed at Kiev. Previously Putin invaded Crimea in preparation for this and he also helped keep Lukashenko (Belarusian dictator) in power through a damn near coup. This is what helped him launch his attack. He has probably been planning this for a good 10-15yrs.
Putin claims that this is because of genocide against Russians, which is completely unfounded. Even the racists in Ukraine, like those in the Azov battalion, would consider Russians to be 'one of theirs'. They're mostly racist against like, Turkish people and other Muslims. There's a considerable population of Muslims in Crimea. Putin hasn't been able to identify a single concentration camp or any terrorist organization involved in this so called genocide. I routinely check Russian media for that kind of stuff, they are VERY vague when talking about these so called 'Nazis' they are fighting. If you consume enough Russian media you will see a pattern... they really don't have anything noteworthy to say. It's a lot of 'history lessons' and implication with lots of hyperbolic statements.
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I don't even know what to say about this. 
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Just want to thank you for modding, removing offensive stuff if he did post but i really dont think string you should leave. your opinion is as important as everyone.
Absolutely i stand behind and will post any evidence to what i said above, ask away any or all matters that confuse you to what i said, i dont promise i will reply on time, could be weeks or months since i got my own life and this shit only drains me dry from researching, unless someone willing to pay me i can reply to you all day no problem. Life is not free and i got to make money. I think its best to reply with video evidence because i feel like words is just words. But i have no interest being here, i already told my self i wont be watching bitchute and rumble but all these idea's string trow at me makes me want to look down the rabbit hole. But damn that shit DRIANS me..... Honestly i think all of you are smart enough to dig for your self for truth. I honestly starting my small green house and got my own life to enjoy, this shit is like a monks palm punch to your chest, never ending. I have a feeling people will hear one thing but later on will learn all the things they hear is not true and the narrative will keep changing none stop, never ending. Like c19. Any way i will or might still stop by once in a while maybe for sure post some good herbal herbs to plant in health section.
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What could be so terrible that we're censoring Off Topic debate ? There's only a handful of people who even participate in politics talk here... Did String call someone a naughty name or what... getting as bad as Facebook I got a "ticket" there for making a joke observation. They've now got a long list of bad words apparently.EVERYONE who is into these conspiracy theories that you are in, believes they are 'center' and seeing all angles. I have seen this so many times. It is definitively more LIBERTARIAN than the politics pushed by establishment conservatives in the west, but it's still far to the right. Economic right and social right. ... You keep saying 'main stream media' like its one single entity. Redacted ....
We have a very clear idea of what's going on in Ukraine. There is a 'fog of war', yes, but its not so thick that the entire world's media, with all their satellites and intelligence gathering, could all be fooled at the same time. Western intelligence has been damn accurate and predicted Putin's every single move. They definitely have a mole high up or something. Right now, Putin is fucked.
I agree, Putin is gonna eventually be "forced out" one way or another... IF China gets involved on their side however, it's WWIII - same if Europe gets bombed - same if he uses Chemical Weapons, NATO will be forced imo to intervene - Just seems like we're on the brink, here, in many possible scenario.
The Radical Religious Right. Anti science, Neo Fascist, Crooks and Liars - WRONG on most every issue.. elected Ronald Rump, gave Putin confidence, politicized the Pandemic, now playing politics with Russia... we're past the point of "belief" in fairy tales and organized religion - Yet a large % of Americans cling to ignorant "beliefs" in many cases voting against their own interest... Biden's Build Back Better would FIX all our Economic problems, but apparently we can't fix stupid ? 20 Years of Bullshit is my theory.
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Dang ballz, yeah it would be better to replace Putin if its that serious and nukes flying (Russia did threaten with using nukes) , but biden cant even put two words together, what kind of build back better are you even talking about ballz? lets get real. We need to kick his ass out of office and replace someone mid ground between trummpers and demograts, if that wont happen regardless i feel like civil war is coming. I do think this something bad will come, like very bad. I think main goal should be to get rid of this idiot Biden, i cant even understand him each time i listen to him (how is he even a president??.) It dont have to be trump just someone we can understand. How hard is to get someone to replace him? He made USA country look like shits. It would of been so much better if Obama won again, at least he had clean speak and easy to understand. I think i will follow your steps and stock up a stash. Like you i feel shit will fly soon. Except my stash will be herbs...
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BIDEN HAS A F***ING SPEECH IMPEDIMENT. omg
Have you been watching his speeches the last few days?
Have you been watching his speeches the last few days?
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I'm pretty pleased with how Biden is handling the Ukraine invasion. As someone old enough to remember Vietnam and the draft, and as a mom of 2 young adult sons, I shudder to think what would've happened if Trump was in office.brave777 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:35 pm Dang ballz, yeah it would be better to replace Putin if its that serious and nukes flying (Russia did threaten with using nukes) , but biden cant even put two words together, what kind of build back better are you even talking about ballz? lets get real. We need to kick his ass out of office and replace someone mid ground between trummpers and demograts, if that wont happen regardless i feel like civil war is coming. I do think this something bad will come, like very bad. I think main goal should be to get rid of this idiot Biden, i cant even understand him each time i listen to him (how is he even a president??.) It dont have to be trump just someone we can understand. How hard is to get someone to replace him? He made USA country look like shits. It would of been so much better if Obama won again, at least he had clean speak and easy to understand. I think i will follow your steps and stock up a stash. Like you i feel shit will fly soon. Except my stash will be herbs...
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Lol herbal, i cant agree more with you. I know its sad but this is reality we are facing when our leaders are spitting into our faces. Seriously even kamala makes more sense with her sexy loughs. I rather listen to Kamala lough her ass away all day over Biden. I lose train of thought as soon as i start listening to him. I never finish the videos because its bone crushing hard to finish them because you know you will sit stunned with open mouth and WTF in your head for 1 min before you abe to shrug that off and wonder how it ever was able to make it to TV. Can't they just re-shoot the video that makes more sense and not go with the first one? I mean i am sure he can afford some teleprompters.herbalhippie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:09 pm BIDEN HAS A F***ING SPEECH IMPEDIMENT. omg
Have you been watching his speeches the last few days?
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I know we all know Biden is front men but they could of picked a better one and yes the crazy war has not happened yet even thought we think its Biden doing things i do think there is some smart people behind Biden that prevented full blown war. I can see that clearly. I dont think Biden serve them well thought since its so hard to understand him.MetalMamaRocks wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:55 pmI'm pretty pleased with how Biden is handling the Ukraine invasion. As someone old enough to remember Vietnam and the draft, and as a mom of 2 young adult sons, I shudder to think what would've happened if Trump was in office.brave777 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:35 pm Dang ballz, yeah it would be better to replace Putin if its that serious and nukes flying (Russia did threaten with using nukes) , but biden cant even put two words together, what kind of build back better are you even talking about ballz? lets get real. We need to kick his ass out of office and replace someone mid ground between trummpers and demograts, if that wont happen regardless i feel like civil war is coming. I do think this something bad will come, like very bad. I think main goal should be to get rid of this idiot Biden, i cant even understand him each time i listen to him (how is he even a president??.) It dont have to be trump just someone we can understand. How hard is to get someone to replace him? He made USA country look like shits. It would of been so much better if Obama won again, at least he had clean speak and easy to understand. I think i will follow your steps and stock up a stash. Like you i feel shit will fly soon. Except my stash will be herbs...
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I think you misunderstood HH's intent and maybe you need your hearing checked. Great speech today but we need to address the lies being believed in our own country that are advancing autocracy at home. Maybe you can decipher this:brave777 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:56 pmLol herbal, i cant agree more with you. I know its sad but this is reality we are facing when our leaders are spitting into our faces. Seriously even kamala makes more sense with her sexy loughs. I rather listen to Kamala lough her ass away all day over Biden. I lose train of thought as soon as i start listening to him. I never finish the videos because its bone crushing hard to finish them because you know you will sit stunned with open mouth and WTF in your head for 1 min before you abe to shrug that off and wonder how it ever was able to make it to TV. Can't they just re-shoot the video that makes more sense and not go with the first one? I mean i am sure he can afford some teleprompters.herbalhippie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:09 pm BIDEN HAS A F***ING SPEECH IMPEDIMENT. omg
Have you been watching his speeches the last few days?
https://youtu.be/JmAf6iyNRec
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biden clearly has dementia
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That's just preposterous. If Rump was President we'd already be taken over by Sputim. Nobody has the experience and respect Biden does with foreign diplomacies and leaders of other countries. Rump made us a laughing stock, remember the balloon?