How do you feel about psychedelics?

[StringThing]

Casting a line here.

You guys ever take psychedelics? Anyone interested in psychedelics who hasn't done them?

I have taken: LSD, AL-LAD, 1p-LSD, 1c-LSD, LSA, LSZ, mushrooms (psilocybin), psilacetin (4-aco-DMT), mescaline, escaline, DOM, MDMA (if that counts), Yopo, DMT, and some mystery nbome. I think that's it.

Curious to hear what people in this community think of them. If you think poorly of them, share that too.

I've had hellish experiences on psychedelics, and I've had enlightening, magical experiences just as well. Been to the depths of psychosis, running from CIA attack pigs, to feeling the direct waves of 'euphoria light' coming from the sun like hands on my skin.

I'm very happy that groups like MAPS are making psychedelic therapy a thing. My friend is currently undergoing ketamine treatment (its a dissociative but, same vein lol) and he says its helping him a lot. He's taken all kinds of meds, done EMS (electro magnetic stimulation), and this is the only thing he feels has given him relief. He's a veteran who saw combat in Afghanistan.

I feel these substances are too powerful and too useful to ignore.

There is one single store in Canada where you can actually purchase psychedelics legally OTC. We're living in weird times. Was also one of the first stores to sell legal marijuana in Canada. I think its just called 'the mushroom shop' or something. I believe its in Vancouver.

[IjustFeltLikeRunnin’]

I’ve never tried any myself, but was always open to them if it ever happened.

I’m intrigued lately with their implication in treatment for depression, especially since we’re currently going through some rough times with our 17 year old daughter.

[Jking]

Done it all except maybe certain research chemicals. Particularly love lsd it can be very useful but to much can literally mess you up mentally. I know i took 32 hits one time. I love psych drugs has long has people us caution they can be a good experience.

[StringThing]

Done it all except maybe certain research chemicals. Particularly love lsd it can be very useful but to much can literally mess you up mentally. I know i took 32 hits one time. I love psych drugs has long has people us caution they can be a good experience.

Lmao how was it?

Most I've taken was 750ug and I definitely was dipping into psychosis territory. It's super uncomfortable at those doses, to say the least.

I feel like LSD is best enjoyed at 100-300ug.

Mushrooms, I cannot handle well. Not really sure what it is but they make me feel manic and uncollected. It's so emotional and painful to me. I much prefer LSD.

[Herba Rosa]

Casting a line here.

You guys ever take psychedelics? Anyone interested in psychedelics who hasn't done them?

I have taken: LSD, AL-LAD, 1p-LSD, 1c-LSD, LSA, LSZ, mushrooms (psilocybin), psilacetin (4-aco-DMT), mescaline, escaline, DOM, MDMA (if that counts), Yopo, DMT, and some mystery nbome. I think that's it.

Curious to hear what people in this community think of them. If you think poorly of them, share that too.

I've had hellish experiences on psychedelics, and I've had enlightening, magical experiences just as well. Been to the depths of psychosis, running from CIA attack pigs, to feeling the direct waves of 'euphoria light' coming from the sun like hands on my skin.

I'm very happy that groups like MAPS are making psychedelic therapy a thing. My friend is currently undergoing ketamine treatment (its a dissociative but, same vein lol) and he says its helping him a lot. He's taken all kinds of meds, done EMS (electro magnetic stimulation), and this is the only thing he feels has given him relief. He's a veteran who saw combat in Afghanistan.

I feel these substances are too powerful and too useful to ignore.

There is one single store in Canada where you can actually purchase psychedelics legally OTC. We're living in weird times. Was also one of the first stores to sell legal marijuana in Canada. I think its just called 'the mushroom shop' or something. I believe its in Vancouver.

I am a huge fan of psychedelics. They changed my life. Tried mushrooms for the first time on the last day of school in 9th grade. Magical. Took 'em at summer camp too, while hiking, etc. About 20 times by the time I graduated.
Salvia was my first drug, in fall of 9th grade. Craziest experience I've ever had was smoking a half-gram bong snap of salvia 80x to the dome, in the middle of the redwood forest in pitch darkness at midnight w/my 2 friends.
Was like the universe never existed. I remember everything I saw. I was almost 15 at the time.
Got introduced to DMT too. Tried it a couple time around 10th grade. But I never tried real top quality DMT until I was 21. Took me on a spiritual journey outside time and space in a loop through the future and past, back to the moment of now.
That said, my drug of choice was LSD. I took about 3 tabs each time, every Saturday for the whole year when I was 18/19. I don't know what kind of LSD it was, but most of time, it was really good. Had some beautiful visions that I'll never forget.
As you can see, my sources weren't clear on the classification of the substance, so I couldn't tell you.

But in the last couple years, I haven't tripped but once or twice, taking only a bit. The current events of the world, from the pandemic, to China, to economic collapse, supply chain disruption, politics, and worst of all the FIRES... it's given me bad trips every time! But I had a small amount of chocolate with my friend last week on a hike and had an amazing experience. I think now that fear of corona is subsiding, I'm feeling a lot better. Gonna trip again soon.

I'd love to try Ketamine treatment. I think I would benefit.
I live just 50 miles north of Oakland, CA, where you can buy psilocybin mushroom and mushroom chocolates at smoke shops.

[herbalhippie]

Peyote buttons and mescaline, acid, mushrooms. Loved them all. Much, much too old for that nonsense now.

[StringThing]

...Oakland, CA, where you can buy psilocybin mushroom and mushroom chocolates at smoke shops.

Woahwoahwoah

That's a thing in California? I had no idea and I generally am pretty up to date on this stuff lol. Crazy.

[StringThing]

Peyote buttons and mescaline, acid, mushrooms. Loved them all. Much, much too old for that nonsense now.

Aldous Huxley took 200ug on his deathbed.

It's never too late

[StringThing]

I only have had the opportunity to try mescaline once, but the san pedro was weak. Very fun to prepare though.

How does it compare to others? It's really the only thing I want to take a 'full dose' of again. What I did experience, I enjoyed. I've also tried escaline which is fairly similar. Gave me a very galaxy oriented view.

[herbalhippie]

Mescaline was (is) by far my favorite. Not overwhelming, if you do it within reason, like acid and mushrooms can be. A bit more of a body high where the others are more of a head high.

I had a friend in the mid-70s, used to go down to NM/AZ, load up the back of his pickup with peyote buttons and bring them home to WA. We made our own mescaline once with a book
we got in one of the head shops detailing how to do it.

[IndelibleDotInk]

my entire list is checked beside mescaline, some research chems, and datura/jimson weed. No way in hell would i eat those pods/drink a tea. Just check out erowid experiences.

[brave777]

Done it all except maybe certain research chemicals. Particularly love lsd it can be very useful but to much can literally mess you up mentally. I know i took 32 hits one time. I love psych drugs has long has people us caution they can be a good experience.

Lmao how was it?

Most I've taken was 750ug and I definitely was dipping into psychosis territory. It's super uncomfortable at those doses, to say the least.

I feel like LSD is best enjoyed at 100-300ug.

Mushrooms, I cannot handle well. Not really sure what it is but they make me feel manic and uncollected. It's so emotional and painful to me. I much prefer LSD.

Mushrooms i had the opposite experience before, i feel calm, collected, concentrated and very in the emotional stage, like in the NOW. One thing with mushrooms, you become your true self and conversations can get very deep, i think people who are fake or confused where they stand will be mind fucked, i feel like everyone who take mushroom have to be very truthful to yourself and about life in general. Conversation with others becomes very legit, and most people don't even know you are on it as long as you act very very calm, chill, lay back personality. Definitely go out in nature and enjoy the leaky colored tree's, maybe sit by the lake and get lost in your mind. Next thing you know 5 hours passed by, when it wears off i always felt like it fixed many things in my mind. Definitely avoid satanic, metallic or shit that screams in your ears, it will f you up very badly, and if you watching action movie with lots of guns and blood splashes, you will be a one fked up toast and so emotional to the point going crazy. Its best to prepare your self first before taking mushrooms. One thing with mushrooms, the emotions take best of you, so be careful what you watch on tv, or try to avoid right away negative past experiences, you might have a PTSD trigger and be stuck in a bad bad emotional state for the whole trip... Get happy up lifting music, positive confirmations and things that make you a better person, you will come out from a trip feeling so much better and none of the manic and uncollected. I can see how many can end up in manic and uncollected state.

LSD in low dose is ok but high dose it makes you become forgetful junkie. You might think of something and wonder off to something else and on it goes.In fact low dose lsd is preferred by experts. Imagine being stuck in bad experience for 13 hours if you high dose it.... One thing for sure, 100% do not add any weed/cannabis with LSD. LSD alone makes you be in a loop of itself but adding weed will sent you on a full 100% loop, being stuck in a loop is like waking up in a morning none stop every 10 seconds waking up again and again and each time your in a different place doing different things but don't know how you ended up there. I dont recommend anyone using LSD, unless you do a full research on it. Beside that, try to enjoy anything pattern shape. like your carpet, or look into he sky outside and watch the sky take geometric shapes, think of thinks you want to see and something in those lines will show up. With LSD is all about creativity. Me personally i do not like LSD. I think it has more negative feelings then the enjoyable part.

My main conclusions, it can be used for good and for bad, main part is to prepare your self mentally first before diving in. Could write on paper all the steps you want to experience and a have a pen to cross out your notes one by one when your on anything. If you forget you can look at paper and see where you at, that way you dont end up watching Oprah the whole trip or Britney spears songs on auto.

[IndelibleDotInk]

I only tried mushies a few times and was rendered unable to speak. Strange experience.

[brave777]

I only tried mushies a few times and was rendered unable to speak. Strange experience.

Possible you took to many? how many grams you take?

[IndelibleDotInk]

both times just less than a handful, second time with acid too (many previous positive experiences with acid). The mushrooms blocked my ability to verbalize until they wore off. I don't think it was a matter of taking too much, it was a small dose, just a few grams, dried. It was frustrating going to a small party, so I bailed. I think the spirits of the mushrooms wanted to help me out, and that was their way. As far as believing in spirits and stuff, i do, but that's about as far as they go.

[Jking]

Well to answer your question I was widely uncomfortable, and made some very questionable choices. I was tripping for about a week, and did seven grams of ketamine hoping to ease the trip some. Then did some heroin, and meth cocktail. Then I started seeing friends who weren’t there, and demon dogs in the yard. The worst is always the shadow people coming to kill me by pushing in my air conditioner to get in. I ended up calling the cops multiple times before they took me to a bhu, and then to a mental hospital under court order for a week when I had my finals for college the same week. I’m waiting to get into nursing school.Thank god when I came down the doctor talked to the judge to keep my record clean there’s a lot more to the story but this should be enough to warn people against doing to much all it takes it the wrong choice to have lasting consequences. String thing I have grew mushroom many times, and eventually quit in favor of lsd because like you shrooms were to emotionally draining, and manic. You see when you take shrooms you have like not control over your trip while lsd in low doses like 110ug are much more easy to handle though the come up is always uncomfortable usually, and higher doses give you a sense of ego death like I’ve never experienced in anything. I took ten hits many times before this with no problems but underestimated how deep this drug can take you. My sense of time is still messed up. I looked into a mirror, and I swear a century passed as I saw the deepest parts of my soul, and im a red head so it scared me when i saw was a black hole. I’m just joking on the black hole part but my advice is not stare into mirrors on psychedelics you might see something about yourself you rather not know. Always start low it your a beginner, and work your way up. This was during a hard point in my life which is why the dose was so high, and all the drugs were involved but that’s not a a reason to trip. Drugs can’t give you answers you don’t already have they can just help uncover things you forgot, or didn’t realize you know about yourself. Nor they can they fix your life, or take the pain away the are simply a tool that can help, or hurt.I say trip for fun only, and only during good points in your life not for answers, or directions. You are better facing life head on then taking something thinking it will give you answers. I found dmt to also be very warm, and nice psych I enjoy beside lsd just be careful it can be hard to find high quality dmt without making it yourself.

[brave777]

both times just less than a handful, second time with acid too (many previous positive experiences with acid). The mushrooms blocked my ability to verbalize until they wore off. I don't think it was a matter of taking too much, it was a small dose, just a few grams, dried. It was frustrating going to a small party, so I bailed. I think the spirits of the mushrooms wanted to help me out, and that was their way. As far as believing in spirits and stuff, i do, but that's about as far as they go.

I feel bad that i did not experience anything spiritual or see spirits, nothing.... I hear some can but me, just being in my mind is all i got. It is fun to lay on bed thought if you LSD and Mushie it. Close your eyes and wonder away to the visuals. I find it insanely wild crazy how psychedelics can influence your colors, shapes and fantasy all together and form a story line. Like one example, you lay on bed, closed eyes and listen to sweet cool metallic beat, i ended up inside of it, like in a tunnel with metallic notes surrounded me with each note having a color to it and i am flying trough it. Each beat took different shape while i observed it from inside. Sometimes i would bounce off one beat to another and yet i was still flying trough, i open my eyes and all gone. LOL But i do think there is a lot o mystery involved with spiritual world compare to what friends shared. Like you feel eyes watching you or something. But i think handful of mushies might of been a bit to much. I think if not experienced, should start out around 2-3 single mushrooms dry. That way you can get a feel how it is. just my opinion.

[IndelibleDotInk]

i think, with psychedelics, the natural type, not lab-derived, there is a spirituality with them, usually beneficial but uncomfortable.

[brave777]

Well to answer your question I was widely uncomfortable, and made some very questionable choices. I was tripping for about a week, and did seven grams of ketamine hoping to ease the trip some. Then did some heroin, and meth cocktail. Then I started seeing friends who weren’t there, and demon dogs in the yard. The worst is always the shadow people coming to kill me by pushing in my air conditioner to get in. I ended up calling the cops multiple times before they took me to a bhu, and then to a mental hospital under court order for a week. Thank god when I came down the doctor talked to the judge to keep my record clean there’s a lot more to the story but this should be enough to warn people against doing to much all it takes it the wrong choice to have lasting consequences. String thing I have grew mushroom many times, and eventually quit in favor of lsd because like you shrooms were to emotionally draining, and manic. You see when you take shrooms you have like not control over your trip while lsd in low doses like 110ug are much more easy to handle though the come up is always uncomfortable usually, and higher doses give you a sense of ego death like I’ve never experienced in anything. I took ten hits many times before this with no problems but underestimated how deep this drug can take you. My sense of time is still messed up. I looked into a mirror, and I swear a century passed as I saw the deepest parts of my soul, and im a red head so it scared me when i saw was a black hole. I’m just joking on the black hole part but my advice is not stare into mirrors on psychedelics you might see something about yourself you rather not know. Always start low it your a beginner, and work your way up. This was during a hard point in my life which is why the dose was so high, and all the drugs were involved but that’s not a a reason to trip. Drugs can’t give you answers you don’t already have they can just help uncover things you forgot, or didn’t realize you know about yourself. Nor they can they fix your life, or take the pain away the are simply a tool that can help, or hurt.I say trip for fun only, and only during good points in your life not for answers, or directions. You are better facing life head on then taking something thinking it will give you answers. I found dmt to also be very warm, and nice psych I enjoy beside lsd it you want try that string thing just be careful it can be hard to find high quality dmt without making it yourself.

Agree 100% with Jking. Its easy to over take things and wish you never took that mush or even at all. i think mushrooms alone just 2 or 4 single dry will help solve many issues on what you are going trough. nothing else needed. before when i used them, i would feel super good for full week, its like they solved something for me. I honestly think mushrooms should be sold everywhere. Strict rules and dose not more then 4 taken per session. Maybe have a baby sitter if first time. I think many problems would go away for many people. Also before taking anything its always best to be your top best self, feel good about your self. How you feel will manifest trough shrooms or LSD... If you dived in a good happy mood, you will get same results back. There is something about staring into the mirrors, definitely freaky at times. I heard magicians use them a lot. So best to avoid mirrors unless you ready to see your true self, darkest side. Black Hole represent reincarnation, from spiritual perspective usually people who did more then 50% bad on earth all go in. they don't get a chance to remember any past lifes they ever had on any planet. . Energy never dies, so you still will end up different parts of universe reincarnated. There are universal laws that no one can escape, its not God. Just is. Yeah the ego death on LSD always tripped me some reason. Seems that is a normal process. Its best to have intentions what you want to achieve from the experience and not do it for fun feel good because you will still end up exploring your self, your mind. Might as well make goals, like to see who you were last life, bring out your forgotten true quality's, ponder on that and you end up coming out from a trip upgraded.. Remember your mind is a powerful tool, iam sure we all have created a planet somewhere in the universe. we are all creative beings, we just forgotten that. I would say trip for fun and but with good intentions. Maybe something you want to learn about your self. I am surprised Jking you took so many things and still here, i probably would shit my pants and die. Good thing i never messed with heroin and cocaine or dmt, i heard friends laying in hospitals for weeks from heroin wd's.. and i had friends who had nothing in the house except one couch and tv from using cocaine...

[Jking]

I agree that shrooms are Definitely more spiritual, and uncomfortable but you need that sometimes the only problem is you can’t control a shroom trip. I’ve noticed the visuals are not has apparent with low dose lsd like it is with shrooms. Every time I do shrooms I end up crying, or like having no control over my feelings. I get super clean lsd dosed correct, and find lsd trips easier to control the direction of the trip, and accomplish the goals I have for my trip plus lsd last longer than shrooms. The thing I love the most is the residual effect that last for a couple weeks after tripping where your serotonin levels were raised for a while leaving something of a antidepressant effect for a couple weeks. I’ve never had the control, or desire to microdose but have heard so many good things from real people that taking small doses of psych drugs two times a week, or a similar regiment to fight depression, and migraines. This is the real deal with many psychs helping depression, and migraines. Most psych raise serotonin, and dopamine levels temporarily leaving an afterglow feeling for a certain amount of time. Never mix with conflicting drugs like anything that has also raises serotonin even if other people due it, and say it’s fine this is just asking for trouble. Oh ketamine, and lsd while not a safe combo is my favorite combination it will make you watch the walls melt in a good way. I should start a thread, and ask how people feel about dissociative drugs they also have value in the medical field, and medicine in general plus they have helped many including me.

[IndelibleDotInk]

Psychedelics have a lot of brain/personality/intellectual growth characteristics and are fun and relatively safe if you plan details like trip setting, sitter.

This girl, https://www.krystlecole.com/, was a longtime girlfriend of a guy who probably made the majority of lsd around the world. Super neat that she was a gothic stripper and big player in the world of research chems. I like to cheer her on, how she beat the adversity in her life. Not good that she helped pull down the biggest lsd kingpin, but it sounded like he wa s getting balls to the walls crazy.

[brave777]

Psychedelics have a lot of brain/personality/intellectual growth characteristics and are fun and relatively safe if you plan details like trip setting, sitter.

This girl, https://www.krystlecole.com/, was a longtime girlfriend of a guy who probably made the majority of lsd around the world. Super neat that she was a gothic stripper and big player in the world of research chems. I like to cheer her on, how she beat the adversity in her life. Not good that she helped pull down the biggest lsd kingpin, but it sounded like he wa s getting balls to the walls crazy.

I would def hang emu print in my room. Do you by chance know any good artist who use LSD or Shrooms and paint? I seen some before out of this world. Some reason something about paint/art fascinates me. If you got any names i can look into please share, i really want to buy few good art works.

[StringThing]

I agree that shrooms are Definitely more spiritual, and uncomfortable but you need that sometimes the only problem is you can’t control a shroom trip. I’ve noticed the visuals are not has apparent with low dose lsd like it is with shrooms. Every time I do shrooms I end up crying, or like having no control over my feelings. I get super clean lsd dosed correct, and find lsd trips easier to control the direction of the trip, and accomplish the goals I have for my trip plus lsd last longer than shrooms. The thing I love the most is the residual effect that last for a couple weeks after tripping where your serotonin levels were raised for a while leaving something of a antidepressant effect for a couple weeks. I’ve never had the control, or desire to microdose but have heard so many good things from real people that taking small doses of psych drugs two times a week, or a similar regiment to fight depression, and migraines. This is the real deal with many psychs helping depression, and migraines. Most psych raise serotonin, and dopamine levels temporarily leaving an afterglow feeling for a certain amount of time. Never mix with conflicting drugs like anything that has also raises serotonin even if other people due it, and say it’s fine this is just asking for trouble. Oh ketamine, and lsd while not a safe combo is my favorite combination it will make you watch the walls melt in a good way. I should start a thread, and ask how people feel about dissociative drugs they also have value in the medical field, and medicine in general plus they have helped many including me.

It hasn't been studied well but I don't think that's the primary mechanism for afterglows. Otherwise you could get such a great afterglow from lots of other drugs too. You could feel great just taking 5-HTP supplements which readily metabolize into serotonin. Just my guess but I think afterglow is caused by 5HT2a and other 5HT receptors that go through a short period of upregulation (getting back to normal) after you use. It's more complicated than that obviously, you have to look into specific ligand gated channels and downline serotonergic activity and whatnot. Just want to mention this because I always see people focus on serotonin/dopamine, but this creates a false dichotomy about what is or isn't safe. Serotonergic/dopaminergic activity is so varied. You really have to look at the individual drugs in question.

AFAIK the only thing you shouldn't really mix with classical psychedelics are MAOIs... be careful when making ayahuasca lol.

I really, really don't like dissociatives lol, but my friend is currently going through ketamine therapy, paid for by his insurance, and he says its great. Very treatment resistant dude who has been through the gauntlet of drugs and weird shit like transcranial magnetic stimulation and whatever that thing is where they stick lots of needles in you like Pinhead. I think this kind of stuff has IMMENSE value and will replace a lot of the current conventional medications prescribed for depression/anxiety/etc.

If you want to see where this research might go in the next 10-30yrs, pay attention to stuff like 'Ultra LSD' (not MK-Ultra lol). Basically, they are working on finding more flexible and expansive utilization of receptors like 5HT2a. Like, there could be a pain relieving psychedelic, or a caffeine-like psychedelic, an anti-depressant psychedelic, or any number of things. We don't know yet. It's a very promising field of research that I don't hear enough about. But for now I think ketamine and psilocybin/LSD microdosing are like, the best things out there for depression. It's sad that so many people would dismiss these treatments because 'they're drugs'.

[StringThing]

[Loveandpeace]

That Muslim mouth is just barely open... just enough. Yikes!! That picture is pretty neat!

[herbalhippie]

That pic is awesome!

[Jking]

I’m pretty sure they have strict laws about drugs in general in Muslim countries. I wouldn’t want to be tripping then find my self on the executioner block about to be beheaded. Which I’m not an expert but do remember death being a punishment in some of those countries of Muslim origin for drugs if the info I read was correct. Oh just for reference sake the lsd I take is almost always 110ug hits dosed correctly made expertly every time. So I took 32 hits of 110ug just so you can get a better idea of what I was on. Really test kits my friends if you don’t trust your source they have regents for everything, and have come along way in spotting research chems. You know like half the drugs sold are not the drug you think your getting but an analogue with similar effects. This an not been a problem for me but it never hurts to be safe. String thing im not sure the exact science behind the antidepressant effect just that it’s real, and that’s all that matters. My knowledge on drugs, and the effects on the body is very extensive mainly to make sure I don’t mix the wrong things, or know the side effects. This helps me to know what to expect, and practice safety. The reason people place importance on serotonin, and dopamine with the drugs that effect these receptors is because they are the most important. I would still say it’s because of increased serotonin but I’m can’t be certain but that would explain it because serotonin effects how we feel mood wise more than any other chemical in the body. Lsd when consumed releases a large amount of serotonin more than it does anything else, and it is it’s effect on serotonin that is responsible for almost all it effects at least the psych ones. You can’t have a true psych drug that doesn’t effect serotonin because that the only way to trip in the way that we do. This, and staying up til the brains neuron’s degenerate from lack of sleep that will also make you see things but not in the good way.

[StringThing]

I’m pretty sure they have strict laws about drugs in general in Muslim countries. I wouldn’t want to be tripping then find my self on the executioner block about to be beheaded. Which I’m not an expert but do remember death being a punishment in some of those countries of Muslim origin for drugs if the info I read was correct. Oh just for reference sake the lsd I take is almost always 110ug hits dosed correctly made expertly every time. So I took 32 hits of 110ug just so you can get a better idea of what I was on. Really test kits my friends if you don’t trust your source they have regents for everything, and have come along way in spotting research chems. You know like half the drugs sold are not the drug you think your getting but an analogue with similar effects. This an not been a problem for me but it never hurts to be safe. String thing im not sure the exact science behind the antidepressant effect just that it’s real, and that’s all that matters. My knowledge on drugs, and the effects on the body is very extensive mainly to make sure I don’t mix the wrong things, or know the side effects. This helps me to know what to expect, and practice safety. The reason people place importance on serotonin, and dopamine with the drugs that effect these receptors is because they are the most important. I would still say it’s because of increased serotonin but I’m can’t be certain but that would explain it because serotonin effects how we feel mood wise more than any other chemical in the body. Lsd when consumed releases a large amount of serotonin more than it does anything else, and it is it’s effect on serotonin that is responsible for almost all it effects at least the psych ones. You can’t have a true psych drug that doesn’t effect serotonin because that the only way to trip in the way that we do. This, and staying up til the brains neuron’s degenerate from lack of sleep that will also make you see things but not in the good way.

How do you know that getting analogues isn't a problem for you? I've done more than a few lysergamides (LSD-25, ALD-52, LSA, AL-LAD, 1cp-LSD, 1p-LSD, ETH-LAD, LSZ). Most of these are considered safe and some (like ALD-52) are prodrugs of LSD and thus produce a damn near identical effect. The 1p's hydrolyze into regular old LSD and produce a very very similar effect. I'm willing to bet that if you got ALD-52 or 1cp-LSD, you could not tell the difference, even if you're experienced. Most people wouldn't be able to tell any of them apart without experience. But you'd know if your LSD was 'real' (and not some other lysergamide) with an Erhlich + Hoffman reagent test. Stuff like the nbomes or DOx series would be easy to tell apart by the taste.

My knowledge of the body is pretty extensive too lol. I'm a biologist but I wish I wasn't. Almost went into pharmacology for my love of psychoactive substances. I'm just saying LSD is serotonergic, not serotonin releasing. It increases serotonin as a secondary mechanism (like eating chocolate or exercise or petting your dog or etc, but with additional enjoyability due to LSD's inhibition @ 5-HT(serotonin)/5-HT2a/other serotonergic sites which result in glorious hallucinations and positively geared emotional weird crispness) It's an important distinction because drugs which straight up release additional serotonin (like MDMA) are the ones you need to worry about mixing, especially with anti-depressants like an SSRI which likely will cause serotonin syndrome when mixed with MDMA. MAOI with MDMA... incredibly, super dumb and you will end up in the hospital.

I mostly wanted to say this to explain why I think LSD is pretty safe, and can be mixed with most serotonergic substances. Drugs aren't safe/unsafe to mix just because they release dopamine/serotonin/etc. Like I don't see any reason for ketamine + LSD to be unsafe. So I hope you do feel better about your past mixing, but if not that's okay. I have spent a bit of time learning about this stuff though.

[StringThing]

Anyone ever try yopo?



I don't recommend it.

[StringThing]

Anyone down for a smoothie?

[Jking]

Couldn’t delete so I edited this one.

[Jking]

String thing I mainly meant I knew enough about drugs to make sure I don’t mix ones that can give me serotonin syndrome. It’s actually not really a big deal to candy flip your just realizing more serotonin than usual but not dangerous unless you were dumb with the doses. If it was as simple as that then taking to much lsd would cause serotonin syndrome but it doesn’t.. What makes antidepressants bad is they are constantly raising your levels over months which is super dangerous to mix with anything that increases serotonin when your levels have been artificially raised everyday over long periods of time. That is were the danger lies. Really your right about the analogues. I sure I’ve tried many analogues of ketamine, ,and lsd a few time maybe. It is hard to tell the difference in effects but it’s very easy to get pure when you know how it’s made, and get it from people who make it. Has much has you know about all the brain I would say your knowledge is above mine I just know enough to understand what not to mix plus a little extra. Honestly have people never heard of dance safe you can get test kits that can test most drugs with perfect accuracy. They even test for the analogues you are talking about they have came long way. China does make a whole batch of brand new research chems every year after making the last years illegal it’s really nonsense because some of the chems actually do have medical value but will never get anywhere with them constantly making new ones, and not sticking to the ones that show promise. Unless china comes out right this very second with a chem I that can beat the test kit. Then lsd, and pretty much every drug can be easily tested with 99 percent accurate at home in minutes. Would say 100 but things happen mostly human error. They have even upgraded the ketamine regent to pick up 2fdck,dck, and anything not completely ketamine this is a huge step forward considering these substances used to pass the test. Ketamine is probably the only drug you couldn’t test perfectly now you can. Lsd is so easy to test that it your getting an analogue it’s because your either wanting it, or don’t care enough to test. I mean you surprise me with your knowledge on the brain, and the effects of some drugs, plus even know some chemistry; it’s refreshing to talk to someone that understands these things. I’ve done lsd over a 100 times probably, and I would say I only got analogues a couple times if that. I could get them but I don’t want them. research chemicals are inherently bad simply for the lack of info, or long term side effects but a few do show promise occasionally but analogues are easily spotted if you know what your doing. Analogues shouldn’t be a problem to anyone unless they want them personally. I can tell the difference between analogues sometimes with things like ketamine but the rest is much more difficult. I wouldn’t be surprised if people get a opioid analogues off the street, and couldn’t tell the difference. If you buy Xanax bars off the street I would bet the house they have a cheap chem in them with stronger effects than Xanax. Did you know like 60 percent of drugs you buy on the street usually have some type of chem in them other than you want. Thanks for staring this thread I’ve found it very engaging, plus you would be surprised at how many people do not know even nothing but still do these drugs without any research, or forethought. Drugs are almost always bad for your health but hey so is that soda but it makes you happy. My point harm reduction is a real thing. I mean is heroin safe no but you can do it in way that is safer. Can you eliminate all risk probably not but eliminate all you can; you never know when a little cation can be the difference between life, death,sanity, and insanity. Most my knowledge comes from experience rather than research but it’s still a combination of both. Be informed, and be careful with psych drugs, and drugs in general. At this point I’ve done mixed combinations like heroin,benzos, and stuff you just shouldnt do. I’ve probably put some rockstars to shame with my drug use. If I wake up, and can wiggle my toes, and no major brain damage I just move on. I’m way to deep into This that if I worried about the damage I’ve done to myself I would go crazy. I have literally woke up on the ground after snorting some fentanyl within seconds unconscious. I have broke my knose slamming a metal door that bounced back, and never noticed til my mom said something ,and that’s just the tip of iceberg. I’m in good health on all fronts but I have practiced safe drug abuse my whole life including nourishment after a binge. The body is incredibly strong when giving the right things it can bounce back pretty quick. I also got god to thank because otherwise how I’m alive does not add up. I know more but I’m lazy, and this is already to long. I think people will at least know to look before you leap something I’m still working on after reading this I hope.