Kava vs etizolam

[Trippyhippy61]

Whats your thoughts?

[beathappening]

This made me lol

[Trippyhippy61]

Well i know kava is natires valium....m

[Webistics]

That's like comparing apples and fire trucks.

I do not recommend etizolam unless you have immense discipline and no sort of predisposition to addiction. In April of 2017 I started taking 1mg every few days as needed. By October I was taking 10+ mg every day and had seriously fucked my life up. Withdrawals were the most physically and mentally agonizing thing to ever happen to me and they went on for months.

"Nature's valium" is said by people who have no idea what they're talking about.

[beathappening]

I had a similar experience with etizolam. I was buying bulk powder, went through over a gram of it (no exaggeration) in a matter of a months. I have no memory of that summer whatsoever, it was one long blackout. When I finally quit I went ct, I had a grand mal seizure and extreme withdrawals for over six weeks. It's no joke. I don't think you can get like that with kava. Fuck rc benzos.

[Kunlong]

About 3 years ago I put up 5 grams for the war......no war yet but they have slowly used it all up.
I simply lied and tricked and hid stuff, because the last thing you need is a pack of eti addicts in total misery and YES, the lovely stuff WILL creep up on you if you are not monk iron steel willed.
But i prefer eti or alprazolam for mine over valium.
Its juat a risky business easy to harm ones self.
I actually need 5 grams now to refill the "war box" with.

[Cappy]

I have taken Xanax, Klonopin, Valium, Ativan, Ambien, Lunesta, and a string of different RCs over the years. Then I found Kava and have used it with Kratom.

As for what is better, it depended on what I wanted. Specifically, did I want something to take recreationally or something to treat anxiety. For me the more recreational a substance is the more“moorish” it also is and combined with an increasing tolerance always caused a long list of problems.

I like reading the experiences of others and when I hear....
“Comparing Apples to Fire Trucks”
“seriously F—ed my life up”
“one long blackout”
“extreme withdrawals”
Today it raises a red flag and that was not always the case.

I still have a prescription for Klonopin or Valium because they work. I do not particularly like either enough to want to use them recreationally. For me others are different so I do not use them. If I need to use willpower to control something, I don’t take it. For me willpower works until it doesn’t work.

That is why I love Kava. It is wonderful especially when mixed with Kratom. I enjoy heady varieties and they are completely different than pharmaceuticals, effective in a gentle way. I prefer them over chemicals not because they are more effective but because of my quality of life and those around me. I experience no side effects and with the others that is not the case.

Good luck in whatever you decide.

Cap

[Kunlong]

Thanks. Good post I've always wondered.
If I can feed my patient better that is what I do. I've been ditching all pills for food answers first and used combinations of them in various cases for over 20 years aggressively now and as you can imagine, I am blessed with a high success rate that really isn't me, it was the roots - so to speak.
A person who combines thier herbology into thier organic chemistry and understands pharmacognosy, metrology and posology (targeting substances, measuring them and establishing doses) is often more powerful in thier kitchen than the md they have or at least a lot less barbarous.