Coronavirus discussion

[MetalMamaRocks]

I'm with you on the masks; I won't be giving up my mask either. It sucks that I can't seem to find a solution to fogged-up glasses while wearing one, but eh, it is what it is.

There is a product which you put under the mask and it makes the fog not collect. Dunno what it's called or where to get it, but it exists.

OMG I'm going to be searching high and low for whatever this is! Thank you for telling me. The only real solutions that have been suggested to me thus far are to use a mask with a nose wire (which hasn't helped me) and to wash my glasses with soap so the soap leaves a film that can't be fogged (which would just make the lenses blurry). I didn't even think to check for things you can put UNDER the mask itself. Thank you!

This is the only thing I've found that works for me, and I love them!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GSL2942/re ... UTF8&psc=1

[herbalhippie]

Stay Away from Vaxxed People Nurse Warns
https://www.roxytube.com/watch/stay-awa ... 02zx6nfxbo

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tYR7Gd8yOdh3/

Warning!! Nanoparticles in Covid "Vaccines" will link you with DARPA/Gates DNA Technology - 19 mins
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Fb61RDrRTnZg/

I dont claim anything just something i came across. From my personal experiences i first hand how shedding affected me.

This is the poster's personal opinion.

[MikeEdoessomething]

I don't trust the CDC on this plus haven't they gone back and forth on the masks a couple times already.

Nah, I'll continue to mask up, thanks. Plus, enough people have had breakthrough Covid infections after being fully vaxxed. And I don't trust too many people to not lie about it and go maskless.

EXACTLY THIS!!! Bill Maher is fully vaccinated and just recently tested positive for Covid. Having the vaccine doesn't mean you can't get or spread Covid (though it seems a lot of my co-workers think it works like that ) And to further what you said about not trusted the CDC, I don't trust the FDA either for their vaccine/drug approval or if they deem something safe. FDA would have kratom and weed illegal if it was up to them And how the vaccines are patient protected is only going to hurt other countries that can't buy vaccine supply, and in turn continue the cycle of covid continuing to spread and mutate.
https://theintercept.com/2021/04/29/cov ... ce=twitter
"Yet, in the past few months, the danger of not transferring the knowledge more quickly has become painfully clear, with deaths climbing in India, Brazil, and other parts of the world that have been unable to procure adequate supplies of vaccines while richer countries stockpile them.

The inequality is only increasing. The state of Florida, which has a population of 21.5 million, has now received some 20 million vaccine doses — more than Covax has delivered to all of Africa, which is home to 1.2 billion people. Worldwide, Covax, which is now supplying vaccines to over 100 economies, has only delivered 49 million doses so far, less than have been distributed in California and Illinois.

Meanwhile, wealthy countries are already in the process of purchasing booster shots. Canada just made a deal with Pfizer to get 35 million doses of boosters by next year, which means they will arrive before most people around the world receive their first shot."

https://www.businessinsider.com/vaccine ... ica-2021-2

Plus, the USA is still having a good amount of new covid cases a day (40,000 or so I believe recently). There's more new daily cases than during some of the lock down stages... Here in North Carolina we are at around 1700-2000 new cases a day with a positive rate between 5-6% and these numbers are with very little testing being done compared to at its peak. Hell, 2 of my co-workers were just out with Covid (and the company did zero contact tracing and nobody was told, not even those who worked next to the two with Covid. I found out because they both told me because I worked with both of them). I, and my parents, both got both shots of the vaccine. But who knows how long the protection lasts? Or how the vaccine will hold up against variants in the near future. A lot of people got 1 shot and skipped the second shot as well. We're a long way away from herd immunity. Not to mention covid is going to keep spreading and mutating. Look at the horrific situation in India recently.

But I don't claim to know what is the right way to go forward. Life has to go on. There is no easy answer. I guess all we can do now is what we believe is best (for ourselves and others).

[IndelibleDotInk]

This is the only thing I've found that works for me, and I love them!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GSL2942/re ... UTF8&psc=1

That's neat, but the thing I'm thinking of is like... a silicone floppy type.. frame? that goes under the mask.

[IndelibleDotInk]

This or similar products: https://www.4ocean.com/products/4ocean- ... cAQAvD_BwE

I have no idea if it works, though.

[brave777]

Serious question. for those who got a second shot, does coins or metals stick on your arm of the shot place and not fall off? I seen tons of videos of them sticking but you cant trust internet so want to hear first hand from you guys.

[IndelibleDotInk]

No, no weirdness from either shot, just tender at the injection spot.

[herbalhippie]

Um...no. My arm was pretty painful after the first shot and not at all after the second shot is all.

[WhiteAngelica]

I haven't gotten my vaccines yet, and I should be the poster child for Covid vaccines. I'm scheduled for Thursday.

Recently, it hit me like a train that I have some major Covid-related trauma. I have a weak immune system from chronic illness, so I have been quarantined for a year. My Uncle died of Covid last April, and I kind of lived off grief and fear for a year. It's like I'm emerging from a hole in the ground, a wounded animal.

The agoraphobia is real. I'm panicked that folks aren't wearing masks and I don't know if they've actually been vaccinated or not. People are still dying of this thing, and I didn't quarantine for a year for fun, only to get sick now. Admittedly, I'm nervous about taking a cab to the vaccine site.

I'm nervous about getting it, but I'm also nervous about going outside. This whole thing has done a number with my mental health, and I'm guessing I'm not totally alone here. I'm still hurting and all the steps forward we're making to combat this pandemic somehow reminds me more of my Uncle than ever. I'm in a support group for families who lost loved ones to Covid and it seems to be a common sentiment--my heart is less than positive, and focuses on the aftermath of 600,000 deaths. The world is moving on and I'm not. What happened to those people is actually something I don't want to forget--at the same time, this depression and anxiety/agoraphobia is an aftermath, a remnant I don't know how to fix.

I am not worried about the vaccine making me ill, but I am concerned for my partner, who has autoimmune diseases like Lupus, Celiac Disease, and another I can't even spell. The Lupus freaks me out the most. With that disease, any type of foreign invader OVER stimulates the immune system and releases white blood cells to attack. It's just that they attack the wrong target. Previously, it attacked her kidneys, which is scary. So the aches and pains you get post vaccine are evidence that your immune system is operating appropriately to fight the vaccine material, but with her, they over-attack. She's going with me on Tuesday to get her first dose, and fingers crossed she doesn't have a Lupus flare that does something stupid in response, like attacking her eyes or some crap.

Sorry for the novel, for the venting. I put things out there sometimes to see if anyone can relate to a part of what I'm feeling. Any advice on any aspect of this is cool, but I know it's A LOT. PS: I do have group counseling via Zoom but I still don't know exactly how to break a cycle that is weighing me down in so many ways.

I try to keep my dry, sarcastic self going but I haven't seen anyone but my partner in a year. That is mental dogshit I know, and not exactly healthy.

Fuck this virus. I hope you guys are okay, whether it be from vaccine, or the cognitive brainfuck that is a lethal pandemic beginning to ease and return us to (not normal) but to newness. Take Heart, all.

[WhiteAngelica]

I don't trust the CDC on this plus haven't they gone back and forth on the masks a couple times already.

Nah, I'll continue to mask up, thanks. Plus, enough people have had breakthrough Covid infections after being fully vaxxed. And I don't trust too many people to not lie about it and go maskless.

EXACTLY THIS!!! Bill Maher is fully vaccinated and just recently tested positive for Covid. Having the vaccine doesn't mean you can't get or spread Covid (though it seems a lot of my co-workers think it works like that ) And to further what you said about not trusted the CDC, I don't trust the FDA either for their vaccine/drug approval or if they deem something safe. FDA would have kratom and weed illegal if it was up to them And how the vaccines are patient protected is only going to hurt other countries that can't buy vaccine supply, and in turn continue the cycle of covid continuing to spread and mutate.
https://theintercept.com/2021/04/29/cov ... ce=twitter
"Yet, in the past few months, the danger of not transferring the knowledge more quickly has become painfully clear, with deaths climbing in India, Brazil, and other parts of the world that have been unable to procure adequate supplies of vaccines while richer countries stockpile them.

The inequality is only increasing. The state of Florida, which has a population of 21.5 million, has now received some 20 million vaccine doses — more than Covax has delivered to all of Africa, which is home to 1.2 billion people. Worldwide, Covax, which is now supplying vaccines to over 100 economies, has only delivered 49 million doses so far, less than have been distributed in California and Illinois.

Meanwhile, wealthy countries are already in the process of purchasing booster shots. Canada just made a deal with Pfizer to get 35 million doses of boosters by next year, which means they will arrive before most people around the world receive their first shot."

https://www.businessinsider.com/vaccine ... ica-2021-2

Plus, the USA is still having a good amount of new covid cases a day (40,000 or so I believe recently). There's more new daily cases than during some of the lock down stages... Here in North Carolina we are at around 1700-2000 new cases a day with a positive rate between 5-6% and these numbers are with very little testing being done compared to at its peak. Hell, 2 of my co-workers were just out with Covid (and the company did zero contact tracing and nobody was told, not even those who worked next to the two with Covid. I found out because they both told me because I worked with both of them). I, and my parents, both got both shots of the vaccine. But who knows how long the protection lasts? Or how the vaccine will hold up against variants in the near future. A lot of people got 1 shot and skipped the second shot as well. We're a long way away from herd immunity. Not to mention covid is going to keep spreading and munutating. Look at the horrific situation in India recently.

But I don't claim to know what is the right way to go forward. Life has to go on. There is no easy answer. I guess all we can do now is what we believe is best (for ourselves and others).

Thank you, to both of you. I feel the same way, and I'm glad I'm not an alien. That makes me feel less crazy about the fear I have of the maskless, and the fact that the media has done nothing but trumpet the efficacy of the vaccines, while downplaying the numbers. We hit 600k deaths without a word or tribute to the lost. Btw--any discrepancy in numbers means they aren't counting cases from Veteran Affairs, the Navajo Nation, Army bases, or any of the outlying territories that we own. Plus, there those who died of Covid but their cause of death is listed as heart failure, blood clots to the lungs, pneumonia, etc. I am not a conspiracy nut, but I am skeptical of the upbeat narrative. Every life lost matters. Every hospitalization matters. For on the other side of that hospitalization, you have a frantic family camped out at the hospital and seeing people clustered at baseball games, maskless. How alone that must feel in the age of the post-Covid narrative.

[MetalMamaRocks]

Hey Angelica, I'm so sorry to hear about your uncle passing. It probably hurts even worse to know that this all could've been avoided if everyone had just taken it seriously from day one.

I'm glad to hear you're going to get the vaccines. You said you're worried about your SO having autoimmune diseases? My sister has Sjogrens (I think that's how it's spelled) and took the Pfizer vaccine. She had mild flu-like symptoms for a couple of days after both shots but then was fine.

You're not alone in thinking everything is opening up too early I was happy with things being at 30 percent capacity. It wouldn't be so bad but I live in an area where most people refuse to get the vaccine and they've been going without masks this whole pandemic. Of course a bunch have also gotten sick. They had to close our local Walmart for several days because so many employees were sick.

Getting the vaccine gave me a little bit peace of mind. I hope it does you too!

[brave777]

I honestly think every single person these last two years or so on earth went trough some kind of flu and or you know someone who is currently going trough one. This Pandemic affected everyone, regardless if you wear a mask or dont. If you take a shot or you dont, everyone still getting sick here and there. Sometimes i feel this is beyond us and something else could be going on that we dont know. Its like a religion in its own way. Strange world we live in, i really do hope vaccine or what ever that is will do good for people and no negative side effects long term. Even familys and friends are split now, who knows how this will all end, i honestly think we should all think ways to get out of this and have good solutions that will be win win for everyone. Not what the media says because they flip flopped way to many times, and not what alternative media says as well because its mixed with lies and truth. Its a crazy world we live in for sure. I really hope humanity wakes up one day and start respecting each other more.

[MetalMamaRocks]

I really hope humanity wakes up one day and start respecting each other more.

Me too Brave!

[brassy]

Nothing extra sticks to my arms since the shot (unless you count waking up breaded in tortilla chips from snacking in bed the night before).


Seriously, I had the Moderna shot. Two of my friends who got it had zero side effects from the second jab. I felt really washed out for at least three days and had flop sweats every night. I also had some really terrible gastric issues (but they might have been coincidental, as in, food poisoning from an undercooked turkey my brother made me on my birthday).

I am still wearing the mask indoors in places like supermarkets and in groups where I know people haven't had the shot.

But now I walk my dogs without a mask, which I wasn't doing before.

Even outside, though, it's going to be a while before I stop wearing the mask around my neck, in case I inadvertently wander into a crowd.

This isn't because I believe any of the scare stories or because I am worried about shedding. I believe it when they say getting both shots means that if you do get a breakthrough infection, it won't be as serious.

However, there are a ton of different strains floating around the world and they don't stay put. I would love to think this is over, but then I look at Taiwan, which beat out the rest of the entire world for keeping the rate of infections down and the population safe, and yet as of this week, their numbers are creeping up again. Plus, I'm in three different high risk groups though so I started masking even before the CDC said to mask, based on research easily found in Pub Med even then that very clearly indicating masks were a valuable safeguard.

[brave777]

Brassy from what i heard shedding only works one month. If you scared to passs it on and it been beyond one month i would not worry much bout it at all. Just keep eating good food, vitamins, boost your immune you might not even have to wait one month. I would avoid meat thought, i went taco bell and eat some steak in taco nd got very sick, i know bacteria/virus thrives on meats inside stomach so will avoid as much as possible and only eat fish or grass fed organic chicken meat from whole foods or something. It hard thought especially if you go someone b day and they have tons of meats, on top you dont know if hey got meat dirt cheap on sell that was going bad. As much as it smells good i still wouldnt risk it. If you do make sure at all cost its well cooked and not red meat or under cooked. I mean its your life but i will go only for very well cooked meats.

[IndelibleDotInk]

I would avoid meat thought, i went taco bell and eat some steak in taco nd got very sick.

Taco bell will make you sick.

[herbalhippie]

I would avoid meat thought, i went taco bell and eat some steak in taco nd got very sick.

Taco bell will make you sick.

Taco Time is better. I just wish they hadn't quit putting that wonderful seasoning on the Mexi-Fries. Or maybe I've lost my sense of taste over the years and they still do?

[IndelibleDotInk]

I would avoid meat thought, i went taco bell and eat some steak in taco nd got very sick.

Taco bell will make you sick.

Taco Time is better. I just wish they hadn't quit putting that wonderful seasoning on the Mexi-Fries. Or maybe I've lost my sense of taste over the years and they still do?

McDonald's used to put beef seasoning on their fries, and when the public in India found out they had to change it, and they adjusted it worldwide. Their fries used to be so ono (delicious) with that flavor. Now, meh.

[herbalhippie]

Back in my day McDonald's used to fry their fries in beef tallow and oh man were they delicious.

[Greyhound/10]

Back in my day McDonald's used to fry their fries in beef tallow and oh man were they delicious.

There’s an entire malcom gladwell podcast episode on that - it’s his revisionist history podcast (which is great). Check it out if you have some free time!

https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/mcdonald ... -my-heart/

[IndelibleDotInk]

Oahu over 50% population is vaxxed, masks off ok for public but most businesses still requiring them. Hooray!

[Sanbutsushin]

Oahu over 50% population is vaxxed, masks off ok for public but most businesses still requiring them. Hooray!

That's great on all counts! It's nice to hear good things about the fight against covid for once, lol.

[brave777]

RC - Just Say No (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzuw1ovpCMs

[brave777]

WE MADE A BIG MISTAKE - WE DIDN’T REALISE IT UNTIL NOW
https://www.brighteon.com/fe453f9f-b3f4 ... 7b4b2b8809

I personally know two friends experiencing heart issues. And if you took the shot and having not normal heart beats and issues with a heart, should watch the video. I my self had that issue too, its better now, pretty much i had to quit good job because of spikes. I think people about now got smarter, most dont take a second shot or the crazy boosters that will never end. And there is ways to heal your selfs up, i do think kratom stops a lot of issues, even if you dont feel anything from kratom its still helping. I think maybe because of it they started attacking it now but who knows whats on their minds that make rules. I do believe even low dose each time 2 grams will help a lot, i wish their was legit study on how kratom and shots interact with each other.

[Greyfeather]

WE MADE A BIG MISTAKE - WE DIDN’T REALISE IT UNTIL NOW
https://www.brighteon.com/fe453f9f-b3f4 ... 7b4b2b8809

I personally know two friends experiencing heart issues. And if you took the shot and having not normal heart beats and issues with a heart, should watch the video. I my self had that issue too, its better now, pretty much i had to quit good job because of spikes. I think people about now got smarter, most dont take a second shot or the crazy boosters that will never end. And there is ways to heal your selfs up, i do think kratom stops a lot of issues, even if you dont feel anything from kratom its still helping. I think maybe because of it they started attacking it now but who knows whats on their minds that make rules. I do believe even low dose each time 2 grams will help a lot, i wish their was legit study on how kratom and shots interact with each other.

Oh. My. God. Thank you so much for posting that link. I know at least 6 dogs who probably got the vax and now they will likely require further COVID care.
If it weren't for Dr. Bridle from the Ontario VETERINARIAN College, we would all be doomed.

Tomorrow I'm going to the Humane Society to see if I can get chipped (like my neighbor's dog) in case my vaccine turns on me. Oh wait, I was vaxxed so I already have a Chip... Duh.

[Kalico]

My dog is fine living with 3 vaxxed people. My wife knows someone who's cousin got a blood clot on the brain after Moderna. Surgeons said it was from the vaccine.
3 lab workers at Wuhan Lab were hospitalized in November 2019 with Covid symptoms. The wife of one of them died.
Just a few random thoughts.

[brave777]

WE MADE A BIG MISTAKE - WE DIDN’T REALISE IT UNTIL NOW
https://www.brighteon.com/fe453f9f-b3f4 ... 7b4b2b8809

I personally know two friends experiencing heart issues. And if you took the shot and having not normal heart beats and issues with a heart, should watch the video. I my self had that issue too, its better now, pretty much i had to quit good job because of spikes. I think people about now got smarter, most dont take a second shot or the crazy boosters that will never end. And there is ways to heal your selfs up, i do think kratom stops a lot of issues, even if you dont feel anything from kratom its still helping. I think maybe because of it they started attacking it now but who knows whats on their minds that make rules. I do believe even low dose each time 2 grams will help a lot, i wish their was legit study on how kratom and shots interact with each other.

Oh. My. God. Thank you so much for posting that link. I know at least 6 dogs who probably got the vax and now they will likely require further COVID care.
If it weren't for Dr. Bridle from the Ontario VETERINARIAN College, we would all be doomed.

Tomorrow I'm going to the Humane Society to see if I can get chipped (like my neighbor's dog) in case my vaccine turns on me. Oh wait, I was vaxxed so I already have a Chip... Duh.

Your not doomed, I am sure their will be cures to stop this madness. Like few things you can look into right away is Holy Basil, krishna, Rama, Vanna , any of those will work. Best to eat Raw leafs from the garden, second choice less effective is dry leaf of holy basil. In india almost every house hold has Holy Basil, they treat it like God plant. Ans it is, it is known to heal many many issues with health that humans experience. And once people started eating leafs, they noticed stronger covid 21 symptoms disappearing. I am sure like vitamin C, Holy Basil and a lot of local gardens will be empty of Holy Basil plants. You dont have to thank me, just search for it asap if you can find a live plant, if not plant some seeds now, if can. Another one, look into c60 products. Hope everyone is well here.

Or Holy basil products on amazon https://www.amazon.com/s?k=holy+basil&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
not sure how effective the products are, you decide. The spikes mess with Adrenals and Holy basil is really good helping with that.

[Babel-17]

Investigating Potential Inhibitory Effect of Uncaria tomentosa (Cat's Claw) against the Main Protease 3CL pro of SARS-CoV-2 by Molecular Modeling

That article could be part of why people had speculated that Kratom could help deal with COVID-19. One of the alkaloids mentioned, speciophylline, is also in Kratom.

And lots of Kratom users sometimes also take Cat's Claw. I used to, originally because Dr. Atkins rated it as arguably the best herb one could use to achieve the most benefits. (Edited "do" to "used to": I see now that I ran out of Cat's Claw during the pandemic, and never reordered. I was also taking Hirsuta, which shared some alkaloids) Have there been any surveys done in the Kratom using community to see who among them tested positive, required hospitalization, has been known to pass away from it, remained symptom free, or who suspected that they contracted it, but never got tested?

Fwiw, I think that I inevitably contracted it (possibly more than once) at the gym I go to, as it both serves members from all over who live active lives, and it had members who wore their masks as either chin diapers, or only over their mouth. But I got vaccinated anyway, using the (Edit: I incorrectly wrote Johnson & Johnson) Pfizer protocol of getting two shots. I never had definitive symptoms, and I was never coughing or sneezing, if I had been I would have stopped going to the gym.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33029165/

A multilevel computational study was carried out to evaluate the potential antiviral properties of the components of the medicinal herb Uncaria tomentosa (Cat's claw), focusing on the inhibition of Mpro. The in silico approach starts with protein-ligand docking of 26 Cat's claw key components, followed by ligand pathway calculations, molecular dynamics simulations, and MM-GBSA calculation of the free energy of binding for the best docked candidates. The structural bioinformatics approaches led to identification of three bioactive compounds of Uncaria tomentosa (speciophylline, cadambine, and proanthocyanidin B2) with potential therapeutic effects by strong interaction with 3CLpro. Additionally, in silico drug-likeness indices for these components were calculated and showed good predicted therapeutic profiles of these phytochemicals. Our findings suggest the potential effectiveness of Cat's claw as complementary and/or alternative medicine for COVID-19 treatment.

And there were other studies as well.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33118480/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33680061/

[INSENSE3]

Cool post, @Babel-17!

INSENSE3

[brave777]

Yeah great info babel, there is so much in all the herbs that do amazing stuff for our buddys that are not studied yet. Going to look into cats claw. Thats why i drink tea of different herbs and feel super duper good. If i eat GMO and fast food, i always feel like shit and sick, sure your mouth might water and taste good for few min but then you experience hell. Thats why if i do eat out i make ginger juice first thing when i get home. Knocks out the sickness away. I think the more people realize that herbs and natural local produce is the way!, the faster the big skull stores will close down. I already pay attention what i eat, i dont want to end up fat, stinky, cramping away with tons of health issues standing in lines of hospitals. That thought alone scares me. Its never to late to become born again Vegan super star!

[Babel-17]

Yeah great info babel, there is so much in all the herbs that do amazing stuff for our buddys that are not studied yet. Going to look into cats claw. Thats why i drink tea of different herbs and feel super duper good. If i eat GMO and fast food, i always feel like shit and sick, sure your mouth might water and taste good for few min but then you experience hell. Thats why if i do eat out i make ginger juice first thing when i get home. Knocks out the sickness away. I think the more people realize that herbs and natural local produce is the way!, the faster the big skull stores will close down. I already pay attention what i eat, i dont want to end up fat, stinky, cramping away with tons of health issues standing in lines of hospitals. That thought alone scares me. Its never to late to become born again Vegan super star!

I was using the NOW brand for its reliability, and best bang for the buck, but I think it got popular and the prices rose for a while. It might still be the best price. A related herb, Uncaria Guianesis, is also known as Cat's Claw, so make sure you're get the Uncaria Tomentosa. The other plant is good, but it's lacks isopterodine, which is in Uncaria Tomentosa.

Ha! I just searched isopterodine, and it too is also in Kratom. God I'm getting old, the search also showed that I posted that before, almost exactly a year ago. lol viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5683

And then again, a few months later. Yikes! viewtopic.php?t=7222

P.S. Ginger can help with tolerance to opioids.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22472107/
I try to take a couple of grams of Ginger extract powder every day. I figure, what the heck, since it has other benefits.

[INSENSE3]

Great info, Brave777 and Babel-17!

I’d like to recommend Chimes Ginger chews for those wanting something sweet AND helpful for the tummy. Overall, I agree with you Brave777 about watching WHAT we eat and drink as I ALSO get pretty sick following ingesting a lot of the GMO, fast food, AND ESPECIALLY pancakes/donuts/many cereal types claiming to be breakfast food (pop tarts, like WTF?).

I’m grown and single and take responsibility for my food choices, but I don’t dare try to tell someone else what to eat. They just see me NOT eating stuff like that. I simply cannot tolerate it as I’m getting well past middle age!

Very helpful information on the cats claw and other supplements of interest to the kratom community! Thank you for posting links as well!

HAPPY FLAG DAY! (We are running specials to celebrate today until midnight). You’ll need to go to the Gold Leaf Botanicals website to see the savings. This post is not a promo ad, so I’m not posting the website link here.

INSENSE3

[Sanbutsushin]

Jeez, now I'm craving ginger chews...

[brimarq]

Jeez, now I'm craving ginger chews...

THAT’s what I’m screamin’! Is it possible to OD on those?

[brave777]

Jeez, now I'm craving ginger chews...

THAT’s what I’m screamin’! Is it possible to OD on those?

Lol, maybe get sugar high. I like making real ginger juice. Buy organic ginger root and chop it up , put it in water pot, boil it for 5 min. It will be strong so you can add some honey into it but fixes most bad stomach issues for me. Gingers chews always help. Good idea to carry some on you at all times. Sometimes life saving.

[INSENSE3]

I definitely didn’t imply they are “healthy”. You can’t eat just one ginger chime! I do like fresh ginger juice! Never liked it when I thought it was only good for eating sushi, so I was late to the ginger party in life!

[brave777]

Ok i Know i talked about grounding before but not as much, i believe grounding with bare feet on grass or any soil will reduce heart issues by tons and any inflammation you may have will be gone. From what i remember it takes 2 full hours of grounding to get inflammation in body out. A lot of people take care of wifi and wire the whole house but forget main thing, to GROUND your self. There is a lot of people who are charged up to 20 volts, imagine what that can do to your heart when you get those weird jerks!!! Heart attack? What if you get sick and on top of that you didnt knock those volts off from your body.. what can happen? Before going to sleep try this trick, 30 min walk outside bare feet. When you go to sleep. your body will be in harmony, 0. something volts. Imagine you got a cell phone tower near by, your body volts would sky rocket to the point of illness. If live in apartments, hope is not lost, watch the movie #3 and web site #4 for mats to get grounded. I will leave some tips and DIY info on bottom.

I thought about on how i can be of benefit to you guys here and Few things you can do for your self right away .

1. Buy Grounding shoes. Or walk bare feet when can. Yes you can end up in hospital and have organ failure if not grounded for a long long time.
2. Buy a sleeping mat or for floor feet mat behind pc or where ever you spend most of your time.
3. watch this free movie on grounding, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ddtR0XDVU&t=134s
4. once you finish watching grounding movie, a good place to buy good grounding mats www.earthing.com
5. for guys, find a privet place to sun your balls, increases %200 testosterone level.

If can, sea and bare feet in sand, will ground you the best. If really sick, you can spend a whole week on beach. Just make sure your feet is touching earth + salt water . There is tons of documentary's and science behind it but i just wanted to get strait to fire gems, cause i know how much you all like fire! If your beach is closed cause of corona, if can sneak out of house and find a place to walk bare feet. This is not the time to think of how many ants you step on or spiders or sticks or what ever on your mind. Health is more important and should always be priority if you care about your self. Once you try it and see crazy results, spread it like wild fire to all the people you love. If you have not seen the movie i bet you would wished you seen it earlier. I think time is well invested. knowledge is GOLD. I strongly believe grounding is what will kill spikes that people experience from shots. Something this simple and right in front of our noses, all we got to do is few steps out of the door bare feet.

EDIT:
i found this
Product Demo erthe Grounding Shoe Straps by Earthling 3.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHBFIAqRr4E

Instead of buying new shoes you can use grounding straps for way cheap, i assume you could even buy conductive tape from home depot or lows and just get creative with your shoe to save even more money. If very broke, you can get rod steel and some cheap wire into your room and conductive tape around your wrist or something, rod steel goes into soil. just some idea's.

Here is do it your self to any of your shoes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLdBz7JXiwk (I ordered some supply, going to try to tweak my shoes now
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After watching the movie, this guy got the product from same and been using it for many years, here is what he has to say

Earthing: As Powerful As They Say? Let's Test it With Science!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp5h-XWjrcU


ANY WAY HAPPY GROUNDING.

[INSENSE3]

Your posts are NEVER DULL, Brave777! I’ve heard about this grounding and I believe in it. But my feet are too sensitive to try it out MOST OF THE TIME. More beach time is on my list of things to do. I can do it on sand.

Thank you for posting your latest YouTube suggestions! Much improved over some of the past, [elbow in side].

Everyone here is DONE with the COVID-19! No more masks and oddly, people are getting UP IN MY PERSONAL SPACE now during grocery shopping checkout. It was NOT LIKE THAT before COVID-19.
Anyone else experiencing this personal space issue now? I don’t need 6 feet, but a couple would be nice while I conduct my transaction.

Wishing everyone here a happy, safe Father’s Day weekend AND I posted of a kratom giveaway and a discount code over in the Vendor Listing section, if you are interested.

I’m curious how the virus being “over” except not in other countries, is affecting y’all here.

Laurie
INSENSE3

[herbalhippie]

Walking barefoot is something I completely believe is good for you. I haven't done it for years. All around my place is gravel
but next door one of the tenants put in a small patch of lawn so they could sit out there and I was over there talking to
the lady one day and kicked off my Birks and it felt SO GOOD! I didn't go barefoot at Ocean Shores when I was there
in early May because it was still kind of cold and I didn't even think of it. I wish I had now.

People are really starting to drop the masks now. I'll probably wear one forever and my son shows no signs of
being ready to give it up either. I haven't been paying too close of attention when I'm in the store, I'm all about
get what I need and get out.

[brave777]

thanks Insense for kind words. I was at the beach today all day. And no one is wearing masks , you might see some scary cat couple and everyone looks at them weird. i am sure they are vaccinated as well and in fear still.

I went to eat out with another family members who invited me to restaurant buffet and they all vaccinated, i got hit by another hard wave of weird spikes when i went to sleep. I thought i was already immune but now i understand this will never end, and i am just have to stay away from family members who got vaccinated. I knew exactly what to do, packed my shit, called few buddy's and went to the beach in the morning! Oh and when i woke up with spikes, how i reduced them was go outside right away and stand on grass for 10 min. All calmed down real fast. Then realized my grounding mat was not connected. Bummer. After connecting it, sleep was heaven. I am sure once grounding spreads more it will get popular with time. Hippi's will steal the show and everyone will hug tree's . . . By the way Hippie you know you can get grounded by touching tree's? or any branch. No need to bare feet if you have gravel. I bought the grounding tester that is on the way, i will test how much volts my body gets being behind pc, laptop and cell phone with not being grounded. I know even simple cheap fans that blow air, spike you body with volts but more testing needs to be done. I wish someone create a tool that always keeps you grounded no matter if you wear shoes or live on last top floor of apartments, sadly i don't think there is such thing yet.

I am sure on masks thing and vaccination we disagree with many here, but i dont mind you guys got them, its your life, your choice what you want to wear or take. I respect your choices. And i am sure many here who didnt get the shot, i respect the too. I think we are all in this boat and need to help each other out. We are all affected by this craziness and family members split. I think my aim at solution is reasonable and starts with grounding. Diet, meditation.