Coronavirus discussion

[brave777]

Grey thanks for warm words. I promise, you will enjoy nature. Any parks or even lakes, grab your self a favorite book or maybe ipod, go out there, relax and get some fresh air, for sure. Like i been going paddle boarding when i can and i enjoy that a lot. I might get a cooler and some D rings to attach to my inflatable paddle board. So i can go out there and try fishing. If you have friends who own some property, or do bong fires, call and find out, best times ever... Anything outside is the way... the only time you want to stay in the house is when you see airplanes spraying something above.. it happened few times here but not a lot, i go directly to car and house.. When sky is clear, i go out.. But if you do chill out side on a spraying day, make sure to take a bath and wash all your clothing. Not going even go into details but those who care for health should keep that in mind. In fact on spray days you should wear masks and long sleeve gloves.

Skin Deep: The Battle Over Morgellons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9vULSl ... e=youtu.be

Also look up and do some study on "Chemtrails & Morgellons" it will spook you but its a must know!

[herbalhippie]

My oldest daughter came over from Seattle to tend to some family business. She got here and I said I want to hug you so bad! I haven't seen her since Xmas. Went and got a blanket and wrapped her in it and hugged and hugged and cried.

I hate this.

[Greyfeather]

How long do y'all think we'll be wearing masks? I personally don't have any problems with it whatsoever. One 'authority' I read suggests several years. That surprised me.

Personally, I'll be wearing one until this thing is fully controlled. I WOULD NOT survive it if I caught it. A year from now if people point and laugh at me I'll be fine with that

[herbalhippie]

I plan on wearing a mask for maybe....forever. I'm also considering not going back to work. I was going to continue to work and build up my SS some more, but I might just draw it. I don't know, I haven't decided yet.

My kiddo's dad is having a bit of a rough time tonight. They're giving him a 3 day round of dialysis and it's hard on a body already ravaged by Covid.

edit: The work thing. It's really hard when you mention to a daughter that you're going to the store and she says

NO!! YOU STAY HOME!!!!

because you know why

[MikeEdoessomething]

I plan on wearing a mask for maybe....forever. I'm also considering not going back to work. I was going to continue to work and build up my SS some more, but I might just draw it. I don't know, I haven't decided yet.

My kiddo's dad is having a bit of a rough time tonight. They're giving him a 3 day round of dialysis and it's hard on a body already ravaged by Covid.

edit: The work thing. It's really hard when you mention to a daughter that you're going to the store and she says

NO!! YOU STAY HOME!!!!

because you know why

Sorry to hear about the kid's father. Is he still on a ventilator? Hope he gets better and recovers I can't imagine the added part of not being able to visit. This whole virus is impacting people in so many more ways than just disrupting school/sports/work. Sorry you and your kids are going through this

I've been having the work convo with my mother as well, to do the same thing when she can. She is 61 and I think eligible for some form SS/retirement in 2 years (but the one that is less than if she waited to 65 or what the federal age is). I want her to actually retire when she first can. Besides the virus risks, I want her to be able to enjoy retirement and I fear if she works 4 or 5 more years she's gonna burn herself out and retire when she can no longer enjoy her free time. My dad really started to decline as far as what he can do and his health at age 65. I also do basically everything that requires going outside now, so my mom doesn't have to go to walmart or pick up groceries. She does mind. My father hasn't left the house since March and he loves not going out

Sending positive energy to your family HH

[herbalhippie]

Thank you. Yeah, he's still on a ventilator.

The people that think this is no worse than the flu. They have no fucking idea.

[Greyfeather]

I plan on wearing a mask for maybe....forever. I'm also considering not going back to work. I was going to continue to work and build up my SS some more, but I might just draw it. I don't know, I haven't decided yet.

My kiddo's dad is having a bit of a rough time tonight. They're giving him a 3 day round of dialysis and it's hard on a body already ravaged by Covid.

edit: The work thing. It's really hard when you mention to a daughter that you're going to the store and she says

NO!! YOU STAY HOME!!!!

because you know why

I'm so sorry, HH. You haven't said anything for a couple of days so it must be a nightmare carrying this burden. We all love you, so whatever you need us to do, we'll do it.

If you need some time off, we'll try to be on our best behavior. If you want to keep sharing, I'm guessing a lot of us can only benefit from hearing what dealing with COVID is really like. I hope that doesn't sound 'weird'. I can't count the newsfeeds that claim to tell me the 'truth'. Whatever... I know that what you are writing is true. It's also painful AF for you . We'er here and we care, and bless you, Girl, for sharing.

[herbalhippie]

{{{hugs}}}

EDIT: better update in next post

My daughter is his medical proxy and so gets updates once or twice a day. She keys them into her phone directly as she gets them as bullet points. Here, there are no identifying things. This is what we get every day. He's been struggling with a couple opportunistic infections and on antibiotics. This is not uncommon.


8/21 - 4:30pm from Dr. XXXXXX
• His BP and heart rate became more unstable in the last hour, his oxygen levels are falling
• Investigating about why he's taking a turn for the worse, they need to get an xray tech in there
• The new ICU hospitalist is going to call families tonight, call in a few hours if no one has called
• No high fever
• From a nursing note - his BP went unexpectedly a bit on the high side, then dropped lower than expected over a period of about an hour
○ His oxygen levels had started to fall from 55% to 70% on the machine, midafternoon
○ One note that he was on 100% oxygen - sometimes they do that if there was a heart arrhythmia. He's still on that now, his oxygen saturation was holding at 90%
○ If it's an arrhythmia, they can tell this on a monitor, they'll get chest xrays, etc
• He's still on sephopin, still finishing the course
○ Dr. XXXXXX took pictures of the corneal ulcer, so he's on an ointment now
• They sent him for CT scan for abdominal aorta, it didn't show any abnormalities of the vascular system
○ Little bit of family liver, little stranding of the fat around the pancreas, these are non-specific findings
• 3 minutes ago
○ Breathing faster than he was this morning, but his BP on the adjusted dose is 115
○ Oxygen saturation is 94% on 100% oxygen from the ventilator
§ They have some space to get the data they need, they've stabilized his vitals
§ This might be an indication of another infection
• They're probably going to do another xray looking for clots (an ultrasound was done on his legs and arms on the 19th)
• Right now, they're double checking everything in the least invasive way as possible
• His antibiotic started on the 13th
○ He was on 80% oxygen at this time, high white blood cell count
○ They know this helped because his white blood cell count normalized and his fever went away
○ Oxygen saturation started getting better after this too
• His heart tests have been normal or low, which is reassuring to the staff
• He had an ECG yesterday - his heart function was excellent
○ Tiny bit of regurgitation, a tiny leak in a few heart valves, this is not an uncommon finding, there would have been no reason for him to be aware of this
• Dialysis takes over some of the kidney's work to help them recover on their own
○ His kidney function numbers are better today
○ His creatinine is a little high today, but that wasn't unexpected
○ His sodium and potassium level have both been high recently, they were both solid normal today
• Note from the nurse:
○ Something came out of the NG tube yesterday, a little bit of food
○ They gave him a break from tube feed (this is normal depending on circumstances)
• He may have been on dialysis when all of this happened in the last few hours
○ They were trying to pull off more fluid, he didn't tolerate it well, his heart rate went up and his BP went down
○ When they start dialysis, they usually do it 3 days in a row. This is hard work on the system. It was a little rocky for him yesterday, it went worse for him today
○ This is one treatment a day, it lasts for 2-4 hours
○ This is a guess based on what Dr. XXXXXX sees on the notes - the nurses should know for sure soon
• How long has he been on heparin?
○ They stopped it because they were worried about his blood cell count for transfusion purposes
○ His count is not worse than yesterday; the past couple days, his hemoglobin was 8, yesterday it was 7, they were just starting dialysis, deciding whether or not he needed a transfusion.
○ His hemoglobin was 7.8 today
○ He's not on heparin right now
• How different do symptoms and health issues differ from covid patient to patient?
○ It looks so different from patient to patient; they think most of the troubles are vascular, microvascular events in the lungs, even if they don't find clots, sometimes they find them in autopsy
○ This clotting process is driving a lot of the problems people experience
○ Weak lungs from injury don't help
• Is it possible his corneal ulcer is from covid?
○ Probably not - it's not something they've seen much of. It happened so late into the hospital stay, that sometimes with proning, etc. His eye might have been a little bit open, the nurses try to use lubricant, but their guess is that he had very dry eyes, an eyelash might have gotten caught
• There will be a doctor change
○ Dr. XXXX XXXXXX replacing Dr. XXXXXX, today is her last day to talk to me
She'll be back in 2 weeks

[herbalhippie]

WEAR YOUR MASKS!!!!! This man did not.

[herbalhippie]

I probably won't post any more of these, but I wanted you guys to see what these patients and their families deal with on a day to day basis. We just got this one and daughter and I will be able to sleep tonight, that earlier update was pretty scary for us.


Calling at 11:04pm
• He's doing better now, he just didn't seem to like the dialysis this afternoon, he's about where he was at last night
• He is on the blood pressure medicine now, nurse just started weaning it back down now
○ His oxygen is down to 60% on the ventilator, 98% saturation, they're weaning down the FI02 from the ventilator
• They'll decide about a third round of dialysis in the morning rounds, around 8am, but they usually do dialysis in the afternoon
○ They're trying to take fluids off - yesterday they took off 1 liter of fluid, they did well with that
Today they tried to be a little more aggressive, he just wasn't ready for that (they were trying to take 2 liters off today)

[herbalhippie]

98% oxygen saturation is very good. Mine runs about 96-97% on room air.

When he was put on the vent the doctor told us a couple days later that he was on the mild end of the disease for someone on a ventilator. I don't know if they still consider him so.

Edit: no he is not considered on the mild end anymore.

[Jestrice2002]

I'm so sorry, HH. I can't even imagine what you're thing through; it must be so difficult for you all. I hope he does better tomorrow, and starts improving soon.

[Kaitlanfutbol]

I got my first covid test done last week, luckily it came back pretty quick in 3 days, and it wasn't a nasal swab. They just scraped the back of my tongue. I can't believe people are still convinced this isn't real or they keep trying to open schools, treating kids like an experiment. I see on the news theres a college party...two weeks later 150 college students are positive or quarantined "mysteriously" and they shut the school down. Or with sturgis, the motorcycle rally from a couple weeks ago, there has already been an uptick in nearby states. And when there's a cluster- there seems to be more clusters that follow. Now they are saying 300,000 deaths by the end of the year in the US

[Greyfeather]

I'm so grateful for your posts, HH.

The highly detailed one that includes all of the treatments, etc - information like THAT should be in the media every damn day so that people can understand what they'll be facing if they don't protect themselves (and each other). I see a couple of maskless guys clowning around at the grocery story, and I would love to see the smiles leave their faces after reading that list.

You mention that he wasn't wearing a mask. Was he also being highly 'social'? My Guy is understandably restless and I do my best to keep him at home. But he tries to find a reason to "break out" most days, even if it's to go get a money order, pick up a soft drink, go to the bank. I'm going to start making him wear TWO masks! I don't like it when he goes to gas stations/convenience stores

[herbalhippie]

No, he is not a social person. Just likes to go to the store a lot, run errands. His wife brought it home, she also did not wear a mask and she is very social. On 7/15 she posted a pic of herself on FB with a friend, heads together. She had been posting a lot of pics like this throughout quarantine and wiped them all off her FB later. Anyway, 7/15. This friend is a healthcare worker too. Wife gets mildly ill and tests positive on 7/27 or so. Kids' dad gets sick around 8/4 and goes to hospital late 8/7.

[Quercus]

Hey, HH, I'm really sorry to hear how sick your ex is. That first list of bullet points you posted was a very sobering reminder of what any of us could face should we fall victim to this thing. I agree with Greyfeather, detailed lists like that one should be in the damn media every day. It might not reach people who have deluded themselves into thinking COVID-19 isn't that serious but it would certainly help those of us who know it's deadly serious but who are starting to let our precautions slip a bit. I've been getting lax about handling deliveries, even though I know better. So, thank you for posting that, but again, I'm so sorry that you even have it to post.

Speaking of precautions - I just discovered "Door openers" which are metal hook like contraptions, often with a stylus on one end, that can be used to open doors, press elevator keys etc. Here's the one I have. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08 ... UTF8&psc=1 It takes a few tries to get the hang of opening doors with it but it works great.

[Greyfeather]

Hey, HH, I'm really sorry to hear how sick your ex is. That first list of bullet points you posted was a very sobering reminder of what any of us could face should we fall victim to this thing. I agree with Greyfeather, detailed lists like that one should be in the damn media every day. It might not reach people who have deluded themselves into thinking COVID-19 isn't that serious but it would certainly help those of us who know it's deadly serious but who are starting to let our precautions slip a bit. I've been getting lax about handling deliveries, even though I know better. So, thank you for posting that, but again, I'm so sorry that you even have it to post.

Speaking of precautions - I just discovered "Door openers" which are metal hook like contraptions, often with a stylus on one end, that can be used to open doors, press elevator keys etc. Here's the one I have. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08 ... UTF8&psc=1 It takes a few tries to get the hang of opening doors with it but it works great.

I like that door opener! I have to wear long sleeves year-round because of Lupus (+ sunlight = bad), so I just tuck my hand inside my jacket sleeve so that my hand is covered when I open doors. Wait. Now I have germs on my coat . Yeah, I like that tool A lot of metal doors that swing both ways - you can "nudge" the bottom frame with the toe of your shoe and they'll just swing open. Learned that one years ago.

I thought of another question (I hope I'm not being rude ): Do they keep patients like your Ex unconscious the whole time? I was in an ICU for six days and, given a choice, I would not have minded being 'under' for the duration (for one thing, no one ever let me sleep!!!)

[herbalhippie]

I just came back from the store (MOM! NO! YOU STAY HOME!!! ) and just finished spraying everything down with Lysol. I'm getting tired of this, I don't see me not doing it anytime soon and I'm lucky to have been able to snag some cans of Lysol just recently.

[Greyfeather]

I just came back from the store (MOM! NO! YOU STAY HOME!!! ) and just finished spraying everything down with Lysol. I'm getting tired of this, I don't see me not doing it anytime soon and I'm lucky to have been able to snag some cans of Lysol just recently.

Oh damn, Girl .

Is your daughter going in and out? Around other people before she comes to you? If not. just wash your hands. I know, easy to say, but tell her to disinfect herself upon arrival - hands, phone, mask, sunglasses, keys. She can leave her shoes and mask at the door along with her bag (two of the dirtiest thangs). If she washes her hands and leaves her stuff outside the door, you should be good.

You're in a really delicate place right now, HH. There is some REAL stuff happening. Because of you're posts I'm putting a limit on MY GUYS wanderlust. Thanks! Paranoia is a perfectly normal response to this. I know you love your kids, but would it be better if they kept their distance for a while? I mean, I don't have a single 'family' member who GAF about me, but if I did, just talking to them on the phone would be so incredibly wonderful. For the time being, maybe it can be enough?

[herbalhippie]

No, no one can go in the hospital. If you go to the doors, there's a long table about 10' in with two people behind it and that's where you stop. I don't know if people can visit other parts of the hospital, but NO ONE goes up to ICU.

My oldest daughter lives in Seattle and only came over for the one day to try to get some legal information about her dad. Failed, but that's a whole other ugly story. Other daughter in Portland. Other than a couple days ago, no one is travelling. No one is visiting. Son lives with me so we're good, we're both reclusive anyway.

[Greyfeather]

Other than a couple days ago, no one is travelling. No one is visiting. Son lives with me so we're good, we're both reclusive anyway.

Good . That's Good.

[herbalhippie]

Of course the daughter's first instinct was to get here, be together as a family. Oldest daughter and I had to talk middle daughter out of packing up her car and coming up. There is nowhere safe to stay. You won't be able to see him. Stay home, stay healthy, that's all we can do right now. They've had a Zoom with him while he's on the vent.

[herbalhippie]

I wasn't going to do this but here's tonight's update


• His BP medication is being weaned off now
• They're going to lower his oxygen on the vent now that dialysis is done
• Dialysis can do a number of things - kidneys help maintain fluid balance, the dialysis is taking extra fluid off, waste tends to build up. This also takes some of the potassium off.
○ They tend to want to run Covid patients dry to help keep the fluid off, allow better oxygenation
• Dialysis should be short term, they're hoping his kidneys recover
○ They're hoping his creatinine numbers drop, that'll be an indicator of stopping dialysis
• They're lowering his sedation, trying to encourage him to wake up a little
"Sedation vacation" - in the long term, they try to avoid ICU delirium

[herbalhippie]

I thought of another question (I hope I'm not being rude ): Do they keep patients like your Ex unconscious the whole time? I was in an ICU for six days and, given a choice, I would not have minded being 'under' for the duration (for one thing, no one ever let me sleep!!!)

Yes they do, but as lightly as they can without the patient fighting the tube in his throat. See my latest update, they are lightening the sedation tonight to let him wake up a little and to try to avoid ICU delirium.

[Greyfeather]

I wasn't going to do this but here's tonight's update


• His BP medication is being weaned off now
• They're going to lower his oxygen on the vent now that dialysis is done
• Dialysis can do a number of things - kidneys help maintain fluid balance, the dialysis is taking extra fluid off, waste tends to build up. This also takes some of the potassium off.
○ They tend to want to run Covid patients dry to help keep the fluid off, allow better oxygenation
• Dialysis should be short term, they're hoping his kidneys recover
○ They're hoping his creatinine numbers drop, that'll be an indicator of stopping dialysis
• They're lowering his sedation, trying to encourage him to wake up a little
"Sedation vacation" - in the long term, they try to avoid ICU delirium

You really have to give it the ICU nurses and staff. When I was there they took very good care of me. They didn't care if I was rich or poor, young or old. But they have got to be suffering burn out now.

And, on another topic, I have found myself wishing (even praying) for that Big old Meteor to just come and end this shoddy Earth Experiment because, after more that 200,000 years, humans still treat each other like garbage. Our Amygdalas still respond to fear triggers but they don't seem to have evolved beyond the "Fuck y'all, I've got MINE" stage of rudimentary empathy. I think we've reached our full capacity. But then I realized that there are still whole new levels of misery we can still visit upon each other and I figure that Saint Meteor is still many millions of miles away

[herbalhippie]

So you're the one who called this?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/us/aster ... index.html

[herbalhippie]

I'm cautiously optimistic.

• Nurse called back at 6:45pm
• He had a good day today! He tolerated his dialysis today
○ He maintained his blood pressure on his own, without assistance
○ His oxygen stats were stable
• Tonight around 6pm his BP did start to dip again, the nurse gave him a low dose of medication to maintain his blood pressure
• None of his sedation was changed - he's lightly sedated, but his system isn't filtering it out quickly so he's pretty deeply asleep

[Greyfeather]

So you're the one who called this?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/us/aster ... index.html

Lol, I wish I HAD!!

Recently I posted a similar "What if" on a forum that could boast more "science" than I'll ever know. Again, I asked "What about these three Asteroids?"

8/18/20 5:21pm

It’s more than that. There have been about 57 Near Earth Asteroids this year that are known. One last month got all the attention while another swung up the blindside. They are coming faster and nearer at the moment.

.

Well now..........

[herbalhippie]

I think we have more 'near' asteroids/meteors than most people know about, unless you follow stuff like that.

[brave777]

Ok so i thought if i should or not post it, but i think all info is useful,

WHAT ON EARTH IS GOING ON? ~ Claire Edwards Presentation LIVE [Age Of Truth TV] [HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8FF2Id_lLc

They do talk about CV and some interesting points so thought this would be a good place for it.

In the video they go trough the list of all the usefull things you can use for CV, blood thinner was on the list as i remember ballz mentioned it. I know i told like 6 people at work about Oregano, and i know 2 people used it. they said it helped them right away. Maybe instantly? all you need is 1 drop, yes! it that potent!! you wont be able to do 2 or 3, unless maybe its in a shot glass and you chase it with water? Unless its loose leaf or from garden then you can aff more to boil tea. Oregano oil is very cheap too, i talking about it before even covid started... its a must have for all kratomites... My fave one! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005G ... UTF8&psc=1 , i cant beleave its 22$ use to be 12$, must be a lot of people aware of it and price went up.. Any ways, there is tons of good info here in the video, if you like tea's you might even have some of that stuff at home. Wish every to stay safe and arm your self with knowledge... They said they will post toe document later, its still live streaming so cant wait to go over it and look trough it when they post it, funny thing they also talked about activated charcoal. I have like 3 bottle that i forgot about it. main thing watch out for anxiety and look into meditation, very usfull and helpful. I have a feeling this Lock Down is the time and opportunity for us all to wake up to this craziness. They also include in document how to make home made masks... Lots of goodies.

You guys have to realize i am limited on time and i actually find and spend time and volunteer to be here since i like this forum a lot. For you all, so please look into the info seriously.

[herbalhippie]

Having a rough day today after a few decent ones

Update from earlier today>>>>>>>>>>

• Dad's had a harder time on the ventilator last night/today, they turned the settings back up to 100%
○ They had the pressure up to 15%, they're trying to bring it down, it's back down to 13%
○ They're going to prone him again, they might need to paralyze him so he breathes in rhythm with the ventilator
• He's still on daily dialysis, he's not on any extra BP medicine still
• They were watching for his hemoglobin, it's still 7.5, he hasn't needed a transfusion since the first one. The GI doctors are following along and don't think they should do any procedures right now
○ He's still on heparin
• Many covid patients move towards tracheostomy; dad's vent settings are too high to consider this procedure
No one has discussed it yet, but it's a standard progression of things, the goal is that it's temporary


From just now>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

• All of the above was done around 6pm, he was proned then
• They did paralyze him, he was fighting the ventilator a bit
• At this moment, things are variable. He's not tolerating turns very well
○ He's stable but critical
○ His oxygen saturation at this moment looks good - the pressure hasn't been turned down, he's still on 100% oxygen
• He's now on medication for his blood pressure
○ Norepinephin
Had another rough day on dialysis

[herbalhippie]

A little better today


11:50am
• He was on his stomach last night, he was turned back at 8:30am, he's doing a little better
• His blood levels were down a little, so he's getting 2 units of blood right now
• They're going to do a CT scan of his abdomen just to check and see if there are any sources of bleeding internally
○ There could be another cause for the drop in blood levels
• He's on a little bit of blood pressure medication, but the nurses are weaning it down
• The plan is for him to try dialysis again today
○ His creatinine was 2.97, a little better than yesterday
He's down to 60% on the ventilator


Note: they consider extubating when the patient is able to maintain good oxygenation at 50% on the ventilator for a certain period of time.

[Jestrice2002]

A little better today


11:50am
• He was on his stomach last night, he was turned back at 8:30am, he's doing a little better
• His blood levels were down a little, so he's getting 2 units of blood right now
• They're going to do a CT scan of his abdomen just to check and see if there are any sources of bleeding internally
○ There could be another cause for the drop in blood levels
• He's on a little bit of blood pressure medication, but the nurses are weaning it down
• The plan is for him to try dialysis again today
○ His creatinine was 2.97, a little better than yesterday
He's down to 60% on the ventilator


Note: they consider extubating when the patient is able to maintain good oxygenation at 50% on the ventilator for a certain period of time.

That's good, he's almost there!

[herbalhippie]

Oh no, he's been bouncing back and forth from 60% to 100% and back for a long time. It's been a roller coaster.

Earlier today


6 hours ago
• He was turned over this morning, paralysis was being stopped to see how he's doing
• He hasn't had a fever, but his white blood cell count was going up a bit again
○ They're doing some CT scans of his chest and abdomen to look for a couple things
○ Making sure there's no blood clot in the lungs
○ Making sure there's no blood or infection in his abdomen
○ These have not been done yet, but are planned to be done today
• His hemoglobin was a little lower today, so they planned a blood transfusion
○ Transfusions are usually done with dialysis
• They do see people get anemic in the hospital just because they're sick
○ The marrow in bones is what produces blood cells, when we get really sick, the marrow doesn't always send out the same amount of cells / hemoglobin as usual
○ They see this even with patients who aren't a sick as dad is
• They decreased his fi02 to 70%, that's where he's at now
○ Went up on the PEEP to 15 (positive end expiratory pressure)
• He's still on heparin, subcutaneous injections
• His trial drug has an end date of September 5th

[Jestrice2002]

I'm so sorry you guys are dealing with this. I how he starts inching towards better soon. <3

[herbalhippie]

Me too. Thank you, Jestrice

[IndelibleDotInk]

Hope to lighten things up a little - awhile back I was in the hospital on a feeding tube mostly drugged out, and got somewhat conscious, ripped out the feeding tube and told everyone I didn't have a stomach. Then I groped the nurse's boob; she was an older Filipino lady and she said with mock protest and surprise, "Oh David Mike! What are you doing?"

[herbalhippie]

Hope to lighten things up a little - awhile back I was in the hospital on a feeding tube mostly drugged out, and got somewhat conscious, ripped out the feeding tube and told everyone I didn't have a stomach. Then I groped the nurse's boob; she was an older Filipino lady and she said with mock protest and surprise, "Oh David Mike! What are you doing?"

[herbalhippie]

5:51pm
• About the same picture today
• He's proned again to help him oxygenate better
• He's currently getting dialysis
○ He has another 1.5 hours to go
○ They're trying to get 2 liters of fluid off
• He's up to 100% oxygen from the ventilator again, he was down to 70% for a while, but dialysis ends up dropping his oxygen saturation
• His blood pressure is doing a lot better on dialysis today than he has the last few days. He's on a supplemental amount of blood pressure medication to help a little
○ Sedation medications can also lower BP a little
• His CT scans happened yesterday
○ They saw a couple of small pulmonary emboli (small blood clots that travel to the arteries of the lungs)
○ He's on heparin to help prevent further pulmonary embolisms and to help the ones he has to dissolve
○ Clots can and do contribute to his elevated need for oxygen
○ It's rare for patients to need clot busting medications for a bigger clot
• The nurse hasn't seen anything about plasma being discussed in notes from the doctors, he'll ask about it
○ They'll have an answer on this tomorrow
• They are not giving him any additional vitamin C, but they are giving him tube feeds, it's a complete profile of nutrients
○ His belly is working, things are going in, coming out as normal, he's absorbing the nutrients
What the nurse has noticed over the last few months for covid patients is slow to no progress for a while. 2 steps forward, 1 step back, 1 step forward and back, sort of thing


eta: I asked her to ask about high dose Vit C and antibody plasma, if that was something they were doing or considering.

[Quercus]

Hey, HH, just wanted to tell you I'm thinking of you and pulling for your ex. And I really appreciate your posting the progress notes. I've read so much about this virus but the progress notes you post have helped me understand it on an entirely different level. I am eagerly waiting for the one that says "pt tests negative, released from hospital".