Botanical bunny

[Hawaii50]

Rojo Loco (lot 14 – batch 2002) x 1, Premium MD (lot 12 – batch 1811)

Anyone tried these ?. I just tried them nothing special I would say it’s ok but not what I expected. Wondering if anyone else got some info on their experiences with these strains.

[Spencemastaflex]

Rojo Loco (lot 14 – batch 2002) x 1, Premium MD (lot 12 – batch 1811)

Anyone tried these ?. I just tried them nothing special I would say it’s ok but not what I expected. Wondering if anyone else got some info on their experiences with these strains.

That batch of premium Md is garbage, but that rojo loco is great. Take a teaspoon and a half of it and then follow it up 30-40 min later with some choc bentuangie or another sedating red. It had me itchin

[Hawaii50]

I’ll try it thanks!

[ShamanManDan]

I had no luck the with Rojo Loco but found the Verde (lot 12 batch 2002) to be a home run.

I'll let he RL sit for a little while and then revisit it.

Also been enjoying the Super Red Lot 12, but it does require higher doses.

[Hawaii50]

I agree that lot MD is garbage!

[Spencemastaflex]

I agree that lot MD is garbage!

Yeah man, wait for one that is a 2004 or something. The newer batches of it are better!

[Spencemastaflex]

I agree that lot MD is garbage!

He ran out of the newer batches so he posted up the 1811 batch. Wait for a new batch

[CatfatherB]

I believe the most praised PMD lot 12 in recent memory was the 1907, maybe this summer history shall repeat its self?

[guitartodd77]

I believe the most praised PMD lot 12 in recent memory was the 1907, maybe this summer history shall repeat its self?

I cant comment on the recent batches of PMD 12 but the 1907 and 1908 were both very good. 1907 was the faster of the two I believe but i haven't opened my bag of 1908 yet. I'm just remembering all the comments about it last Summer.

[phatcracker]

Just got the Rojo Loco last week. It's ok, nothing great imo but acceptable. Not pissed off that I got it. Now the MD Kapuas Red was great. Getting another bag of that. The Yellow was really good also. Not great on it's own but amazing as a blend. Getting their sample pack and the MD Kapuas Green soon. Will leave a review on that when it arrives.

[Spencemastaflex]

Just got the Rojo Loco last week. It's ok, nothing great imo but acceptable. Not pissed off that I got it. Now the MD Kapuas Red was great. Getting another bag of that. The Yellow was really good also. Not great on it's own but amazing as a blend. Getting their sample pack and the MD Kapuas Green soon. Will leave a review on that when it arrives.

You gotta try green jongkong #2003

It's super euphoric

[syng shade]

damnitt. I tried the PMD 1811 and yeah I'm pretty disappointed. Trying the Yellow now. I also got White Jongkong lot 12 and Green Jongkong 2003 to try.

[BotanicalBunny]

damnitt. I tried the PMD 1811 and yeah I'm pretty disappointed. Trying the Yellow now. I also got White Jongkong lot 12 and Green Jongkong 2003 to try.

We have a new batch of PMD that should be arriving on Monday along with another shipment of lot 17 strains.

A note on the 1811 strains, That is a shipment that the FDA has seized and was being held until recently. The cargo company called and said the FDA no longer cared that the shipment be held and it was free to be released to me. I have sent all the strains to my testers and the response I received on the PMD compared to the current batch was that 1811 wasn't as balanced as the current batch. 1811 lacked energy but had more pain relief was the general consensus. I didn't get any negative replies from my testers but it does vary person to person. Perhaps I need additional testers with less similar body chemistry.
I will be adding the other strains to the site soon.

[Marcussk]

damnitt. I tried the PMD 1811 and yeah I'm pretty disappointed. Trying the Yellow now. I also got White Jongkong lot 12 and Green Jongkong 2003 to try.

We have a new batch of PMD that should be arriving on Monday along with another shipment of lot 17 strains.

A note on the 1811 strains, That is a shipment that the FDA has seized and was being held until recently. The cargo company called and said the FDA no longer cared that the shipment be held and it was free to be released to me. I have sent all the strains to my testers and the response I received on the PMD compared to the current batch was that 1811 wasn't as balanced as the current batch. 1811 lacked energy but had more pain relief was the general consensus. I didn't get any negative replies from my testers but it does vary person to person. Perhaps I need additional testers with less similar body chemistry.
I will be adding the other strains to the site soon.

I still enjoy most of everything I have ordered from you bunny. There have been a couple that didn't work when I first got them, but when I came back later they were fantastic, and there has only been one strain out of I don't know how many that absolutely didn't work for me. That strain didn't work, but I still believe your quality is on point, this is just a strange plant and some of it doesn't mesh with your body chemistry. I mean what can you do. I appreciate what you do and wish you and your family the best and that you can stay safe out there.

Oh and thanks for getting me full on addicted to chimes

[syng shade]

damnitt. I tried the PMD 1811 and yeah I'm pretty disappointed. Trying the Yellow now. I also got White Jongkong lot 12 and Green Jongkong 2003 to try.

We have a new batch of PMD that should be arriving on Monday along with another shipment of lot 17 strains.

A note on the 1811 strains, That is a shipment that the FDA has seized and was being held until recently. The cargo company called and said the FDA no longer cared that the shipment be held and it was free to be released to me. I have sent all the strains to my testers and the response I received on the PMD compared to the current batch was that 1811 wasn't as balanced as the current batch. 1811 lacked energy but had more pain relief was the general consensus. I didn't get any negative replies from my testers but it does vary person to person. Perhaps I need additional testers with less similar body chemistry.
I will be adding the other strains to the site soon.

Hey BB, you are all good in my book! My girlfriend has mild scoliosis so she's satisfied! I am curious what response you got from testers on the Yellow Lot 12? I adore the Green JK and the white JK but the Yellow has been interesting to say the least. Good energy but the weirdest anxiety. Still very good for getting work done when mixed with the Green JK. Keep up the excellent work!

[Kyle4434]

Hey ya.. I am not really understanding if this is giving me energy or not.

I too am mixing the green jong kong and the yellow.

Odd.

[Bubba]

I made my first order with BB on Sunday after reading all the reviews on this forum... I’m a total noob so I decided to get as many different strains as I could! Can’t wait to try and review!

[RubberToes]

damnitt. I tried the PMD 1811 and yeah I'm pretty disappointed. Trying the Yellow now. I also got White Jongkong lot 12 and Green Jongkong 2003 to try.

We have a new batch of PMD that should be arriving on Monday along with another shipment of lot 17 strains.

Looking forward to Lot 17 strains - hopefully some nice Greens in there

[Bubba]

I ordered late Sunday night right before midnight and got my order today! Actually ordered 8 different strains at the advice of ppl here and immediately tried the White MD Jongkong Lot 12 with my partner. I’ve been taking headshop stuff so this was a very welcome surprise! I am only 3 days off subutex and my RLS was going. I could mark the moment that it kicked in cuz my leg just stopped bouncing and I felt a warm reassuring glow creep over my body. Can’t wait to try the others... Thanks so much for the incredibly fast and friendly service BB... Especially the candies and ginger chews, which are amazing! My 3 year old is getting down on the candy and I called the ginger chews!

[Bubba]

I could mark the moment that it kicked in cuz my leg just stopped bouncing and I felt a warm reassuring glow creep over my body.

I’ve taken the White MD Jongkong a couple times now and I wanted to add that while the initial relaxation and euphoria feels very strong, it’s followed up by a whole lot of stimulation... Which seems a bit too much for my current state of battling buprenorphine withdrawals. My partner said that it kept him up last night, so obviously (and I’m a noob so...) this one is best kept for the mornings, during work, or maybe going to a concert, etc.

Going to try the Rojo Loco next as I’ve never tried a red before...

[Kyle4434]

I can also attest that the White JongKong is almost too stimulating... never thought I'd say that. Mixed with yellow though.. that may be the perfect combo.

[RubberToes]

White MD JongKong Lot12 (batch 1905) from October last year has some pep but not too stimulating - 2.5 to max 3g though for me

[Spencemastaflex]

I could mark the moment that it kicked in cuz my leg just stopped bouncing and I felt a warm reassuring glow creep over my body.

I’ve taken the White MD Jongkong a couple times now and I wanted to add that while the initial relaxation and euphoria feels very strong, it’s followed up by a whole lot of stimulation... Which seems a bit too much for my current state of battling buprenorphine withdrawals. My partner said that it kept him up last night, so obviously (and I’m a noob so...) this one is best kept for the mornings, during work, or maybe going to a concert, etc.

Going to try the Rojo Loco next as I’ve never tried a red before...

Are you taking the most current white md jongkong?

[Bubba]

Are you taking the most current white md jongkong?

Yes.

White MD JongKong (lot 12 - batch 2001)

[Spencemastaflex]

Are you taking the most current white md jongkong?

Yes.

White MD JongKong (lot 12 - batch 2001)

If you didn't like how strong bbn it was, would you want to do a trade?

[Bubba]

Are you taking the most current white md jongkong?

Yes.

White MD JongKong (lot 12 - batch 2001)

If you didn't like how strong bbn it was, would you want to do a trade?

It’s weird because there are parts of the day where it feels too strong and others when it feels just right. I actually do like the White MD Jongkong but it’s as if I can only take it in the middle of the day. I took it in the morning the other day while cooking my son breakfast and I was having trouble concentrating. Then I took it on another day at like 3pm and it was just what I needed. My partner loves it and has been consuming it all day, errrday, lol. I doubt he’d want me to touch the bag.

I have tried all 8 strains that I ordered now and I have to say that my results haven’t been the same as everyone else’s. I agree that the White MD Jongkong is the Mac daddy of all of them... But I am actually a fan of he PMD that everyone else seems to have hated... Did wonders for me. The Yellow is the worst for me... It doesn’t do pretty much anything for me. I’m also not impressed with the Rojo Loco or the Red MD Jongkong. I did very much like the Gold and the MD Kapuas Green... I’ve put a dent in both of those bags. The Wild White is a good bet for me as well and I’m actually drinking it now as I type this.

I wonder how the mode of ingestion may also change things for people. I’d like to make capsules out of some of these... As it’s easier for me to consume in the morning or at night if I wake up in the middle of the night. My best friend does the toss and wash method, which I could NEVER. With everything Ive gotten from BB, I’ve made a drink with honey that takes me a few minutes to consume... So I’ll slowly ingest 6-6.8 grams over 10-15 minutes or so.

This kratom has helped me through one of the most difficult times in my life. Today I am 10 days Subutex free after almost 8 years.

[KurtisCards]

Congrats on getting off of subs, i was stuck on those for a while, and wish i would have known about kratom back then.

I used to toss and wash, or parachute my doses, but now i mix it with hot water and lemon, and i swear that's the only way i can feel it these days lol (or at least it seems stronger that way)

[Bubba]

Congrats on getting off of subs, i was stuck on those for a while, and wish i would have known about kratom back then.

I used to toss and wash, or parachute my doses, but now i mix it with hot water and lemon, and i swear that's the only way i can feel it these days lol (or at least it seems stronger that way)

Appreciate it, friend. 11 days now as of 2 and a half hours ago and I feel like I’ve been set free. Before these last 8 years, I had been on subs before for maybe 2 years and I had quit cold turkey and it was hellacious. I relapsed during the the detox with oxy and I felt even WORSE. This time it was so much easier, not a picnic at the park or anything... But I’m so thankful I’ve had it!

I’ll have to add some lemon to my honey kratom concoction. I have to put a little bit of hot water in for the kratom to mix at all, but I fill the rest of it up with cold water. I’m big on temperature and consistency... I don’t think I’d be able to do hot!

[Spencemastaflex]

If you didn't like how strong bbn it was, would you want to do a trade?

It’s weird because there are parts of the day where it feels too strong and others when it feels just right. I actually do like the White MD Jongkong but it’s as if I can only take it in the middle of the day. I took it in the morning the other day while cooking my son breakfast and I was having trouble concentrating. Then I took it on another day at like 3pm and it was just what I needed. My partner loves it and has been consuming it all day, errrday, lol. I doubt he’d want me to touch the bag.

I have tried all 8 strains that I ordered now and I have to say that my results haven’t been the same as everyone else’s. I agree that the White MD Jongkong is the Mac daddy of all of them... But I am actually a fan of he PMD that everyone else seems to have hated... Did wonders for me. The Yellow is the worst for me... It doesn’t do pretty much anything for me. I’m also not impressed with the Rojo Loco or the Red MD Jongkong. I did very much like the Gold and the MD Kapuas Green... I’ve put a dent in both of those bags. The Wild White is a good bet for me as well and I’m actually drinking it now as I type this.

I wonder how the mode of ingestion may also change things for people. I’d like to make capsules out of some of these... As it’s easier for me to consume in the morning or at night if I wake up in the middle of the night. My best friend does the toss and wash method, which I could NEVER. With everything Ive gotten from BB, I’ve made a drink with honey that takes me a few minutes to consume... So I’ll slowly ingest 6-6.8 grams over 10-15 minutes or so.

This kratom has helped me through one of the most difficult times in my life. Today I am 10 days Subutex free after almost 8 years.

That's crazy. You liked all the strains I didn't like and didn't like all the strains I really liked. The yellow is my favorite. Super white makes me sleepy.

Also try adding lemon it actually breaks up the kratom and pulls the alkaloids out of the leaf's. However you're really doing yourself a disservice by not toss and washing it's really not that bad. I'm so used to it now sometimes I wonder if I could just do it without Gatorade or anything

[acejestyr15]

Also try adding lemon it actually breaks up the kratom and pulls the alkaloids out of the leaf's. However you're really doing yourself a disservice by not toss and washing it's really not that bad. I'm so used to it now sometimes I wonder if I could just do it without Gatorade or anything

How is anyone doing themselves a disservice by not toss and washing??? I don't even consume the powder at all whatsoever!! And, after 2.5 to 3 years of kratom usage I can def say that with steeped/brewed aeropress tea I get by far the best and most consistent results that i have ever gotten from any other method before.... Not to say that any one method is better than another. TO EACH THEIR OWN! But, honestly I can't imagine how anyone would prefer T&W hahaha.

[WalrusGuardian]

Also try adding lemon it actually breaks up the kratom and pulls the alkaloids out of the leaf's. However you're really doing yourself a disservice by not toss and washing it's really not that bad. I'm so used to it now sometimes I wonder if I could just do it without Gatorade or anything

How is anyone doing themselves a disservice by not toss and washing??? I don't even consume the powder at all whatsoever!! And, after 2.5 to 3 years of kratom usage I can def say that with steeped/brewed aeropress tea I get by far the best and most consistent results that i have ever gotten from any other method before.... Not to say that any one method is better than another. TO EACH THEIR OWN! But, honestly I can't imagine how anyone would prefer T&W hahaha.

For me it's a time saving method. It might not seem like much on an individual basis but if you use it regularly, the expended time adds up over years. I'm spending it doing something else I care about more than preparing tea.

[acejestyr15]

Also try adding lemon it actually breaks up the kratom and pulls the alkaloids out of the leaf's. However you're really doing yourself a disservice by not toss and washing it's really not that bad. I'm so used to it now sometimes I wonder if I could just do it without Gatorade or anything

How is anyone doing themselves a disservice by not toss and washing??? I don't even consume the powder at all whatsoever!! And, after 2.5 to 3 years of kratom usage I can def say that with steeped/brewed aeropress tea I get by far the best and most consistent results that i have ever gotten from any other method before.... Not to say that any one method is better than another. TO EACH THEIR OWN! But, honestly I can't imagine how anyone would prefer T&W hahaha.

For me it's a time saving method. It might not seem like much on an individual basis but if you use it regularly, the expended time adds up over years. I'm spending it doing something else I care about more than preparing tea.

Still doesn't add up to a "disservice" by any means... But whatever to each their own. I make 3 or 4 batches of tea at a time so my tea prep for the day is all done in one shot.... Plus this way my Kratom is 100 percent from of bacteria and such, as well as much easier on the guts. Not to mention the fact that the onset is wayyyyy faster than toss and wash. Don't be so quick to think one way is the best way.... Like I said no one method is better than another, whatever works for ya.

[Back2K]

Very disappointing because I bought 100 grams of the Premium Maeng Da lot 12 1811 batch and now I just saw three people say it's garbage....great

[Back2K]

damnitt. I tried the PMD 1811 and yeah I'm pretty disappointed. Trying the Yellow now. I also got White Jongkong lot 12 and Green Jongkong 2003 to try.

We have a new batch of PMD that should be arriving on Monday along with another shipment of lot 17 strains.

A note on the 1811 strains, That is a shipment that the FDA has seized and was being held until recently. The cargo company called and said the FDA no longer cared that the shipment be held and it was free to be released to me. I have sent all the strains to my testers and the response I received on the PMD compared to the current batch was that 1811 wasn't as balanced as the current batch. 1811 lacked energy but had more pain relief was the general consensus. I didn't get any negative replies from my testers but it does vary person to person. Perhaps I need additional testers with less similar body chemistry.
I will be adding the other strains to the site soon.

I just got back into Kratom literally a few days ago. Now I am sad because the biggest order I even made was this same 1811 maeng da I'll give you my personal opinion on it too, but that sucks if it... well.... sucks. I guess everyone is different, but I'm now sad that 3 people literally said it was garbage.

By the way I am "daaplomb" who emailed you and we talked about boiling the kratom in Sunny D bottles, for reference. I do appreciate that you included samples, so when it gets here Tuesday, I will start finding what works for me. I also appreciate the good customer service and fast shipping. Just a bit worried about the 100 grams of maeng da. At least it was only 12$ I guess.