Best Kratom potentiator

[dogfacedponysoldier]

I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about this. I posted this on Reddit before but for some reason it got removed after receiving a couple of thumbs ups from members. I just wanted to get my opinion out there as someone who's experimented with many different potentiators as to what I believe is the best.

Now when discussing 'potenetiators' I think it's best to get a little specific. There are potentiators whose purpose is to enhance the effects that already exist in kratom, and there are also potentiators which really serve to compliment kratom. Phenibut isn't like tumeric and lemon juice, it doesn't enhance kratom, it compliments it.

As for complimentary substances, Phenibut is at the top of my list along with caffeine. In fact, I use all three together. I start off with 1.5g of phenibut and wash it down with coffee, and it will kick in about 2 hours later. I've also added suntheanine capsules to the mix to experiment, but this may only be helpful if you suffer from anxiety.

Phenibut is not something to mess around with, so if you're prone to addiction you should just skip this altogether because it can be very euphoric which makes it enticing. In fact I wouldn't recommend taking any more than 2g, 1.5g is just a safe point where you can really feel the effects, but once you reach 2g or higher you risk serious side effects. I would only recommend 2g if you're an experienced user, and only as an occasional treat.

If you've never experienced phenibut but are curious about it. Phenibut feels kind of like how you'd imagine a happy pill to feel like. It's almost like MDMA but much more mild and it feels very clean. It'll set the stage for your kratom dose by adding an additional layer of euphoria to the experience. It should probably be taken a few hours later, because phenibut kicks in much later than kratom, although some argue that coffee and exercise speed up the process a bit.

What type of kratom strains go best with phenibut depends on your preferences. Phenibut can be sedating, so you may fall asleep with a red. Personally I prefer pairing it with a blend of white sumatra, a green, and a little red bali to extend the effects. The way I prepare kratom is through the lemon freeze method, and I take tumeric with piperine an hour before I toss and wash.

Anyway I'm new to this board but I wanted to share my experiences. I hope people find this post interesting. I am a big fan of kratom and discovering different potentitors and most have failed me. However I don't think anything I've tried comes close to the kratom + phenibut + caffeine combo. Keep the dose to 1-1.5g phenibut and 3-4g kratom. Don't go too heavy on both or you risk nausea.

Again I really hope people can find this helpful or interesting.

[Spencemastaflex]

Very interesting. Is phenibut prescribed or is it over the counter or?

Can you explain the lemon freeze method for someone who knows nothing about it (me)? And how long before you take your kratom do you take your turmeric? I actually just picked up some turmeric today and was curious

[KurtisCards]

To those that haven't done Phenibut I would not recommend it, can be extremely addicting, and has some serious withdrawal. Had a friend go crazy over it and really mess up his life.

Definitely only for someone that knows what they are doing, or has extremely good self control.

Turmeric has be known to be a good potentiater, as well as Agmatine, Cimetidine, and some people say Black seed oil? but never tried the last one so no opinions on it.

Most of these things can raise your tolerance though, so best to do on a very periodic basis.

[MycatTimmy]

Interesting post. Do you take the phenibut hcl or faa ? Do you take them both at the same time. Where do you get strong phenibut. I’ve heard some can be very weak

[dogfacedponysoldier]

Very interesting. Is phenibut prescribed or is it over the counter or?

Can you explain the lemon freeze method for someone who knows nothing about it (me)? And how long before you take your kratom do you take your turmeric? I actually just picked up some turmeric today and was curious

What I do is I simmer water in a pot. I don't boil it because I've read it can destroy some of the alkaloids, so I simmer it and add just a small amount to my kratom powder to form almost like a very wet mud. Heating water is said to help release more of the alkaloids, which is why I do it in the first place. It also dissolves the kratom better than colder water would. I then add truvia to sweeten, then either lemon juice, grapefruit juice, or a half teaspoon of citric or malic acid powder. It supposedly works by helping to extract the alkaloids via cell lysis but I feel it mainly just slightly extends the duration of the experience.

I take tumeric w/ piperine capsules an hour before toss and washing kratom. Also, I leave the frozen bag in a bowl filled with warm water to thaw it quick. The sweetener makes it tolerable, and I just down it like I'm taking a shot.

To those that haven't done Phenibut I would not recommend it, can be extremely addicting, and has some serious withdrawal. Had a friend go crazy over it and really mess up his life.

Definitely only for someone that knows what they are doing, or has extremely good self control.

Turmeric has be known to be a good potentiater, as well as Agmatine, Cimetidine, and some people say Black seed oil? but never tried the last one so no opinions on it.

Most of these things can raise your tolerance though, so best to do on a very periodic basis.

I agree that if you are prone to ODing or addiction, it's best to avoid phenibut altogether as I outlined in my post. I have been trying agmatine and haven't yet noticed any differences yet, but I know that it does work for some people pretty well, especially those who use kratom on a daily basis. It's definitely true that some of these may raise tolerance and shouldn't be taken too often. Tumeric w/ piperine capsules are also a bit pricey and I take more than the recommended serving with my kratom, so a bottle typically won't last me too long.

Interesting post. Do you take the phenibut hcl or faa ? Do you take them both at the same time. Where do you get strong phenibut. I’ve heard some can be very weak

HCL, I take 1.5g which is a little under 1/2 tsp according to my scale. My phenibut is from Nootropics Depot and it's definitely high quality. I take phenibut in water, 20 minutes later I follow it up with a strong dose of coffee to combat the potential drowsy and sedating effects, and then 2 hours later I toss and wash with kratom. Phenibut can be a really great social lubricant and can help you handle job interviews, speeches, and other stressful or social situations much easier than before and I really think it's worth a shot if you're not prone to addictive habits.

[FartBlaster]

Phenibut doesn't enhance kratom and it's risky to use

[Spencemastaflex]

Very interesting. Is phenibut prescribed or is it over the counter or?

Can you explain the lemon freeze method for someone who knows nothing about it (me)? And how long before you take your kratom do you take your turmeric? I actually just picked up some turmeric today and was curious

What I do is I simmer water in a pot. I don't boil it because I've read it can destroy some of the alkaloids, so I simmer it and add just a small amount to my kratom powder to form almost like a very wet mud. Heating water is said to help release more of the alkaloids, which is why I do it in the first place. It also dissolves the kratom better than colder water would. I then add truvia to sweeten, then either lemon juice, grapefruit juice, or a half teaspoon of citric or malic acid powder. It supposedly works by helping to extract the alkaloids via cell lysis but I feel it mainly just slightly extends the duration of the experience.

I take tumeric w/ piperine capsules an hour before toss and washing kratom. Also, I leave the frozen bag in a bowl filled with warm water to thaw it quick. The sweetener makes it tolerable, and I just down it like I'm taking a shot.

To those that haven't done Phenibut I would not recommend it, can be extremely addicting, and has some serious withdrawal. Had a friend go crazy over it and really mess up his life.

Definitely only for someone that knows what they are doing, or has extremely good self control.

Turmeric has be known to be a good potentiater, as well as Agmatine, Cimetidine, and some people say Black seed oil? but never tried the last one so no opinions on it.

Most of these things can raise your tolerance though, so best to do on a very periodic basis.

I agree that if you are prone to ODing or addiction, it's best to avoid phenibut altogether as I outlined in my post. I have been trying agmatine and haven't yet noticed any differences yet, but I know that it does work for some people pretty well, especially those who use kratom on a daily basis. It's definitely true that some of these may raise tolerance and shouldn't be taken too often. Tumeric w/ piperine capsules are also a bit pricey and I take more than the recommended serving with my kratom, so a bottle typically won't last me too long.

Interesting post. Do you take the phenibut hcl or faa ? Do you take them both at the same time. Where do you get strong phenibut. I’ve heard some can be very weak

HCL, I take 1.5g which is a little under 1/2 tsp according to my scale. My phenibut is from Nootropics Depot and it's definitely high quality. I take phenibut in water, 20 minutes later I follow it up with a strong dose of coffee to combat the potential drowsy and sedating effects, and then 2 hours later I toss and wash with kratom. Phenibut can be a really great social lubricant and can help you handle job interviews, speeches, and other stressful or social situations much easier than before and I really think it's worth a shot if you're not prone to addictive habits.

So after hearing the water and adding the juice and everything you then freeze it? And eat it in ice cubes or?

[KurtisCards]

well you could do that, or just thaw it, either by letting it sit out, or adding a small amount of hot water, and drink it.

some people also filter off the plant matter as well.

[dogfacedponysoldier]

Phenibut doesn't enhance kratom and it's risky to use

That's what I said. It doesn't enhance what's already in kratom, it compliments kratom. It also shouldn't be risky to use if you take the necessary steps to stay safe, such as using a scale to weigh the product and starting with no more than 1g as a new user.

Very interesting. Is phenibut prescribed or is it over the counter or?

Can you explain the lemon freeze method for someone who knows nothing about it (me)? And how long before you take your kratom do you take your turmeric? I actually just picked up some turmeric today and was curious

What I do is I simmer water in a pot. I don't boil it because I've read it can destroy some of the alkaloids, so I simmer it and add just a small amount to my kratom powder to form almost like a very wet mud. Heating water is said to help release more of the alkaloids, which is why I do it in the first place. It also dissolves the kratom better than colder water would. I then add truvia to sweeten, then either lemon juice, grapefruit juice, or a half teaspoon of citric or malic acid powder. It supposedly works by helping to extract the alkaloids via cell lysis but I feel it mainly just slightly extends the duration of the experience.

I take tumeric w/ piperine capsules an hour before toss and washing kratom. Also, I leave the frozen bag in a bowl filled with warm water to thaw it quick. The sweetener makes it tolerable, and I just down it like I'm taking a shot.

To those that haven't done Phenibut I would not recommend it, can be extremely addicting, and has some serious withdrawal. Had a friend go crazy over it and really mess up his life.

Definitely only for someone that knows what they are doing, or has extremely good self control.

Turmeric has be known to be a good potentiater, as well as Agmatine, Cimetidine, and some people say Black seed oil? but never tried the last one so no opinions on it.

Most of these things can raise your tolerance though, so best to do on a very periodic basis.

I agree that if you are prone to ODing or addiction, it's best to avoid phenibut altogether as I outlined in my post. I have been trying agmatine and haven't yet noticed any differences yet, but I know that it does work for some people pretty well, especially those who use kratom on a daily basis. It's definitely true that some of these may raise tolerance and shouldn't be taken too often. Tumeric w/ piperine capsules are also a bit pricey and I take more than the recommended serving with my kratom, so a bottle typically won't last me too long.

Interesting post. Do you take the phenibut hcl or faa ? Do you take them both at the same time. Where do you get strong phenibut. I’ve heard some can be very weak

HCL, I take 1.5g which is a little under 1/2 tsp according to my scale. My phenibut is from Nootropics Depot and it's definitely high quality. I take phenibut in water, 20 minutes later I follow it up with a strong dose of coffee to combat the potential drowsy and sedating effects, and then 2 hours later I toss and wash with kratom. Phenibut can be a really great social lubricant and can help you handle job interviews, speeches, and other stressful or social situations much easier than before and I really think it's worth a shot if you're not prone to addictive habits.

So after hearing the water and adding the juice and everything you then freeze it? And eat it in ice cubes or?

It'll quickly liquefy back to its original state if you place the bag of frozen kratom in warm water, then you just toss and wash it like you would normally.