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I'm at of work for at least 2 weeks. Here in Raleigh they have said they will not cut off water or electricity, but here's my question: will people who can't pay now have to pay back the bills we miss? This is going to set so many people back. It's great what they are doing like which you mentioned about banning cut-offs, but afterwards, people will be playing catch up big time.

So many questions.
I believe that our city has determined this too. Will we have to pay it back? I'm guessing "oh hell yes." Meanwhile we are all going to suffer hardship at the hands of local administrations who fail in their duties to us. Will they be held accountable? "Sorry Ma'am/ Sir," this was AN ACT OF GOD. We are not responsible."

I'm sorry I sound bitter. This is really selfish, but I had an awful summer last year because I had a broken arm and wrist and could barely do anything. I was so excited about this summer and all the catching -up to do, enjoying some quality time with my guy (who is seriously a saint). Today the hospital called to cancel his eye-surgery....OK, I'm stopping now. Going to start a new topic: tell me something good :|
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A big fear was doctor's and nurses getting sick. kyle kulinski, A independent media/youtube show host of Secular Talk, has been providing updates with a doctor he is in contact with in New York. Not getting into politics (this is bigger than politics), but he is a good follow for updates on the virus as he posts links about various aspects related to the virus, some that are not being spoken about on the news. I hate twitter but follow a few people in various fields for information often over-looked... This was just tweeted this screenshot from his doctor contact

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status ... 7103774720

Health care workers getting sick has been a major threat/problem in Italy. And is a worry/major concern for the US in the new few weeks.

Be safe everyone. My store is closed for at least 2 weeks but we have been told that it is likely one month of no in store dining. I am using the credit I have on credit cards to stock up on essentials for my parents and myself for at least a month.
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Greyfeather wrote:
I'm at of work for at least 2 weeks. Here in Raleigh they have said they will not cut off water or electricity, but here's my question: will people who can't pay now have to pay back the bills we miss? This is going to set so many people back. It's great what they are doing like which you mentioned about banning cut-offs, but afterwards, people will be playing catch up big time.

So many questions.
I believe that our city has determined this too. Will we have to pay it back? I'm guessing "oh hell yes." Meanwhile we are all going to suffer hardship at the hands of local administrations who fail in their duties to us. Will they be held accountable? "Sorry Ma'am/ Sir," this was AN ACT OF GOD. We are not responsible."

I'm sorry I sound bitter. This is really selfish, but I had an awful summer last year because I had a broken arm and wrist and could barely do anything. I was so excited about this summer and all the catching -up to do, enjoying some quality time with my guy (who is seriously a saint). Today the hospital called to cancel his eye-surgery....OK, I'm stopping now. Going to start a new topic: tell me something good :|
Something good- There is still food available and the streets are not covered in blood ;)

Don't be sorry. I'm right there with you. I'm thinking positive, but yeah I'm guessing the same thing.

What eye surgery was he supposed to get out of curiosity? I had lasik eye correction surgery done 12 years ago and one of best decisions I ever made. No more contacts or glasses :D
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Thanks Mike. I have been following your posts and sending you all my heavy-duty GOOD ENERGY :D

He has been going through cataract surgery, but it has been complicated by the discovery of scar tissue (it was supposed to be removed tomorrow). My Guy is getting along OK, but I hate watching him have to use a magnifying glass to see any small characters/numbers. He can see to drive and all that. He is such a sweet heart (puts up with me) and also very much at risk for this virus, so I worry that he will catch it. If he does, maybe I'll just do the same because I can't imagine life without him :(

And you are such a good son. Is your Dad doing OK? Was he able to get his meds?
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Our county got our first two positives today. Here we go...
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Greyfeather wrote:Thanks Mike. I have been following your posts and sending you all my heavy-duty GOOD ENERGY :D

He has been going through cataract surgery, but it has been complicated by the discovery of scar tissue (it was supposed to be removed tomorrow). My Guy is getting along OK, but I hate watching him have to use a magnifying glass to see any small characters/numbers. He can see to drive and all that. He is such a sweet heart (puts up with me) and also very much at risk for this virus, so I worry that he will catch it. If he does, maybe I'll just do the same because I can't imagine life without him :(

And you are such a good son. Is your Dad doing OK? Was he able to get his meds?
He is lucky to have you by his side and vise-versa!

Yes, I got my father his medication today! I probably should make an edit to that post. I literally drove to his doctors office, and waited there while they called the insurance company, and then handed me his script to refill. All this stress of trouble because apparently nobody bothered to call to get insurance approval :roll:

But I got it which is what is important. He is doing better, slowly seeming to get a little better here and there. I actually thought he was getting worse a few days ago but he was dealing with getting used to new medications and side effects.

Sending positive vibes and energy right back at ya :D
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herbalhippie wrote:Our county got our first two positives today. Here we go...

So Washington state actually closed all barber shops and beauty salons?? WOW, that was a bold move :o
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I can't believe this thread was only started a little over two weeks ago. The changes.... :shock:

I'm seriously considering asking my PCP for a very small prescription of Xanax or something. I'm over stressed and overanxious. I'm not sleeping or eating. I got about 3 hours sleep last night and I'm wound up and shaking. This is not good.
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herbalhippie wrote:I can't believe this thread was only started a little over two weeks ago. The changes.... :shock:

I'm seriously considering asking my PCP for a very small prescription of Xanax or something. I'm over stressed and overanxious. I'm not sleeping or eating. I got about 3 hours sleep last night and I'm wound up and shaking. This is not good.
I have a script for Ativan (lorazepam). Maybe try that first? Since its incidence for recreational use is pretty much nil, it might be easier to get, and Xanax can be addictive (well, all benzos can be). Anyway, you don't have to take it unless you really need to and it's very effective.

But, I'm curious, isn't weed a good alternative?
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Greyfeather wrote:
herbalhippie wrote:I can't believe this thread was only started a little over two weeks ago. The changes.... :shock:

I'm seriously considering asking my PCP for a very small prescription of Xanax or something. I'm over stressed and overanxious. I'm not sleeping or eating. I got about 3 hours sleep last night and I'm wound up and shaking. This is not good.
I have a script for Ativan (lorazepam). Maybe try that first? Since its incidence for recreational use is pretty much nil, it might be easier to get, and Xanax can be addictive (well, all benzos can be). Anyway, you don't have to take it unless you really need to and it's very effective.

But, I'm curious, isn't weed a good alternative?
I can't smoke even the weakest weed, it makes me anxious and paranoid. And one of the best weed stores in the valley is walking distance from my home. :roll:

I asked my doc, we'll see what she says. Desperate times call for desperate measures, I've never asked her for anything like this before.
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herbalhippie wrote:I can't believe this thread was only started a little over two weeks ago. The changes.... :shock:

I'm seriously considering asking my PCP for a very small prescription of Xanax or something. I'm over stressed and overanxious. I'm not sleeping or eating. I got about 3 hours sleep last night and I'm wound up and shaking. This is not good.
I understand that feeling. I've been telling my parents and co-workers this is a FAR MORE dangerous situation then most people seem to believe, at least around me. Many didn't pay attention until celebs and stars got sick. Many are not looking at Italy and realizing that very well could be the USA in 7-12 days. We're following the same trend and that trend is not good! Preparation is always a good thing in my opinion, but paying attention to what is happening is like watching a fire grow, and yeah I'm kind of feeling like you. Lost a few pounds at least :lol: (probably gonna lose more in the next few months)

I would maybe suggest something besides xanax. I was prescribed xanax when I was around 27 for restless leg which runs in my family and was messing with my sleep. I wish I never touched this drug. I asked my doc to stop prescribing it to me because at the time I thought I'd just be fine without it. That was about 2 years ago. The withdrawals are hell on hurt! I still take xanax although I have been able to taper to half my prescribed dose and I can skip a day here and there... But never have succeeded in a full taper because even during tapering I was curled up in a bed for days. I can not go 36 hours without taking a dose, cause around the 36 hour mark the withdrawals hit and they are like: having the flu and getting hit by a car and then have the next few cars roll over you as they pass and then have vultures pick at you while you die slowly :shock:

Sorry for exaggeration, just kidding (kind of but not really). I've had a couple seizures from withdrawals as well. Last thing you would want is to be prescribed xanax and then shit goes to hell and suddenly you are cut off from the prescription. But on the other hand if we are heading to a dystopian reality, xanax will help you at least sleep through the nightmare of our realities ;)

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I am as afraid of benzos as I am of strong opioids. I asked her for 5 pills. ;)
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InSense has not yet gotten any SHELTER IN PLACE and are still taking orders (please dm me if interested because there are discount codes available). I’m located in Santa Cruz and everyone is getting SHELTER IN PLACE except a bunch of restaurants are still open and doing TAKE OUT/DELIVERY?! I cannot visualize how cooks and staff maintain a safe space distance of 6 ft while preparing meals to deliver all over town. Makes no sense to me.

Not sure why we are not to “drive up the coast to look at the waves”, but cooking over a hot stove in a hot kitchen is ok?!

Screwy stuff.

I think millennials will prevent stuff like this from happening. Future generations will not tolerate unending nuclear power plant runoff draining into the ocean and viruses shutting down the entire globe.

I’m definitely not ordering delivery, this is not room service in a hotel,

Just venting out loud. Thanks for quietly listening! ;)
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MikeEdoessomething wrote:
I would maybe suggest something besides xanax.

At least we all have kratom (its something)
She wants to try Buspar first. I've never had it, have you? I don't like the potential side effects. :?
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Here's one that looks good, there are a lot more online!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo
Thank you herbal hippie. If things get bad enough,this will be a life saver.
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herbalhippie wrote:
MikeEdoessomething wrote:
I would maybe suggest something besides xanax.

At least we all have kratom (its something)
She wants to try Buspar first. I've never had it, have you? I don't like the potential side effects. :?
No never had Buspar. Wish I never had taken xanax either lol
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herbalhippie wrote:
MikeEdoessomething wrote:
I would maybe suggest something besides xanax.

At least we all have kratom (its something)
She wants to try Buspar first. I've never had it, have you? I don't like the potential side effects. :?
My Doc wanted me to try that. I declined because it is more of a script that you take every day (like an antidepressant), and I just like to be able to take a small, 1mg tablet if I start to have a panic attack. I'm already on a daily med. Anyway, I have had a script for Ativan for about 27 years. It has never changed, never increased. Anti-benzo people INSIST that use will increase over time. This just isn't true, and -as I said - it is not possible to use Ativan recreationally because you'll simply fall asleep if you take too much (it is very helpful with sleep). It can't get you high.
I don't like drugs either - ANY kind. This is how I describe the effects of Ativan: "It helps get that cat off of your head," you know, that imaginary cat balancing atop your heat, it's claws digging in, as it yowls? You won't feel "different" or "high" Just. No. You just won't feel as though your heart is going to pop out of your chest or that you might pass out from fear. You could start with half a tab and work up to two tabs a day max, imo. That's not alot. You can tell your Doc that you are going to start practicing meditation, etc, etc. to calm yourself (which is a good idea). I view some benzos as a TOOL; of course it is not a cure. But, imo, a lot of women (this woman anyway) are extremely sensitive to outer and inner pressures (and freakin' menopause didn't help either :evil: ). Ativan is not Valium (mother's little helper). It won't make you groggy or zombie-like (unless you take a handful). Good Luck, HH
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https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperi ... 3-2020.pdf

Umm, don't know what to say about this, but guess I'll go take my xanax now :(

Edit: Here's a thread reader of someone who broke the above report down. Hope this is wrong in every possible way

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239 ... 57696.html

Here is the summery of the above report (format sucks when copy and paste. Sorry):
Summary
The global impact of COVID-19 has been profound, and the public health threat it represents is the
most serious seen in a respiratory virus since the 1918 H1N1 influenza pandemic. Here we present the
results of epidemiological modelling which has informed policymaking in the UK and other countries
in recent weeks. In the absence of a COVID-19 vaccine, we assess the potential role of a number of
public health measures – so-called non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) – aimed at reducing
contact rates in the population and thereby reducing transmission of the virus. In the results presented
here, we apply a previously published microsimulation model to two countries: the UK (Great Britain
specifically) and the US. We conclude that the effectiveness of any one intervention in isolation is likely
to be limited, requiring multiple interventions to be combined to have a substantial impact on
transmission.
Two fundamental strategies are possible: (a) mitigation, which focuses on slowing but not necessarily
stopping epidemic spread – reducing peak healthcare demand while protecting those most at risk of
severe disease from infection, and (b) suppression, which aims to reverse epidemic growth, reducing
case numbers to low levels and maintaining that situation indefinitely. Each policy has major
challenges. We find that that optimal mitigation policies (combining home isolation of suspect cases,
home quarantine of those living in the same household as suspect cases, and social distancing of the
elderly and others at most risk of severe disease) might reduce peak healthcare demand by 2/3 and
deaths by half. However, the resulting mitigated epidemic would still likely result in hundreds of
thousands of deaths and health systems (most notably intensive care units) being overwhelmed many
times over. For countries able to achieve it, this leaves suppression as the preferred policy option.
We show that in the UK and US context, suppression will minimally require a combination of social
distancing of the entire population, home isolation of cases and household quarantine of their family
members. This may need to be supplemented by school and university closures, though it should be
recognised that such closures may have negative impacts on health systems due to increased
16 March 2020 Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team
DOI: https://doi.org/10.25561/77482 Page 2 of 20
absenteeism. The major challenge of suppression is that this type of intensive intervention package –
or something equivalently effective at reducing transmission – will need to be maintained until a
vaccine becomes available (potentially 18 months or more) – given that we predict that transmission
will quickly rebound if interventions are relaxed. We show that intermittent social distancing –
triggered by trends in disease surveillance – may allow interventions to be relaxed temporarily in
relative short time windows, but measures will need to be reintroduced if or when case numbers
rebound. Last, while experience in China and now South Korea show that suppression is possible in
the short term, it remains to be seen whether it is possible long-term, and whether the social and
economic costs of the interventions adopted thus far can be reduced.
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INSENSE3 wrote: I’m located in Santa Cruz and everyone is getting SHELTER IN PLACE ;)
Yep. Bay Area, CA - but pay attention everyone. Governors are talking to each other.. Mayors are talking. So, the woman who is now Mayor of San Francisco (Every West coast city now must have all women in charge!) .. gave the order Shelter In Place. :?

Which means... basically EVERYTHING is closed! And, nobody is allowed to drive? (Misdemeanor ticket: Fines & Jail Time!) So, think about that.. No, they make exception for grocery stores and pharmacy MAY be open (Or maybe Delivery or Pickup Only?) but here's the deal - The Order is given & takes effect immediately. Or ( By 9:PM Tonight ) with order given at 8:PM - WHY??

Because they KNOW if The Order was given with 24-hour notice.. Everybody would get in their cars, and start driving around & around to do last minute shopping or supplies at Home Depot, or whatever. They DO NOT want everybody driving around @ same time. Shelter In Place, is the final step before... Martial Law. :shock: , National Guard patrolling streets.. hard to believe this is happening.
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BallzDeep9 wrote:
INSENSE3 wrote: I’m located in Santa Cruz and everyone is getting SHELTER IN PLACE ;)
Yep. Bay Area, CA - but pay attention everyone. Governors are talking to each other.. Mayors are talking. So, the woman who is now Mayor of San Francisco (Every West coast city now must have all women in charge!) .. gave the order Shelter In Place. :?

Which means... basically EVERYTHING is closed! And, nobody is allowed to drive? (Misdemeanor ticket: Fines & Jail Time!) So, think about that.. No, they make exception for grocery stores and pharmacy MAY be open (Or maybe Delivery or Pickup Only?) but here's the deal - The Order is given & takes effect immediately. Or ( By 9:PM Tonight ) with order given at 8:PM - WHY??

Because they KNOW if The Order was given with 24-hour notice.. Everybody would get in their cars, and start driving around & around to do last minute shopping or supplies at Home Depot, or whatever. They DO NOT want everybody driving around @ same time. Shelter In Place, is the final step before... Martial Law. :shock: , National Guard patrolling streets.. hard to believe this is happening.
Agree with you, I do (A little Yoda to lighten the mood lol). What do you think the reaction to something like this will be here?

Other countries are better suited as a society to shelter in place or stay in a long lock down. I fear America is not. I hope I am proven wrong or that there is never a need for anything to be proven at all.

I heard a bunch of states are activating the National Guard but don't know how many or where I heard that (been a long day/week/life :!: )
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Update on corona virus.

According to Simon Parks, the virus is not targeted at people, it was released by accident, watch the video to see how it was started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JQLQ1M ... s4KYd2%3A6

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Lorie Ladd channels and explains how it is, its like broken telephone game. it started and still going and says its just like many other flu's out there except it just spreads much fast. Once in a while i like to listen to her. Here is the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7eg_XjNFHg

If you like stuff like that i can post many channels and they speak similar to Lorie Ladd. So people stop your worry, this she said will pass and many new fears will come to pass by, some things important to understand especially if you understand every thing is energy. Peace!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2RXLDa5no

Uploaded today how to kill CoronoVires , this can explain why kratom helps, it raises natural heat in body.
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brave777 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2RXLDa5no

Uploaded today how to kill CoronoVires , this can explain why kratom helps, it raises natural heat in body.
I take kratom all day every day and my temp runs about 97.8
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herbalhippie wrote:
brave777 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2RXLDa5no

Uploaded today how to kill CoronoVires , this can explain why kratom helps, it raises natural heat in body.
I take kratom all day every day and my temp runs about 97.8

Same here. I have been "running cold" for about a decade now. Weird because I'm seldom actually cold, lol.
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BallzDeep9 wrote:
INSENSE3 wrote: I’m located in Santa Cruz and everyone is getting SHELTER IN PLACE ;)
Yep. Bay Area, CA - but pay attention everyone. Governors are talking to each other.. Mayors are talking. So, the woman who is now Mayor of San Francisco (Every West coast city now must have all women in charge!) .. gave the order Shelter In Place. :?

Which means... basically EVERYTHING is closed! And, nobody is allowed to drive? (Misdemeanor ticket: Fines & Jail Time!) So, think about that.. No, they make exception for grocery stores and pharmacy MAY be open (Or maybe Delivery or Pickup Only?) but here's the deal - The Order is given & takes effect immediately. Or ( By 9:PM Tonight ) with order given at 8:PM - WHY??

Because they KNOW if The Order was given with 24-hour notice.. Everybody would get in their cars, and start driving around & around to do last minute shopping or supplies at Home Depot, or whatever. They DO NOT want everybody driving around @ same time. Shelter In Place, is the final step before... Martial Law. :shock: , National Guard patrolling streets.. hard to believe this is happening.
I would not be surprised if the National Guards have been in deep, deep planning for the last month. Our Gov. (IL) just called out 60 members to "do things", at the same time I don't think martial law can be established. Our culture simply isn't remotely prepared for this. Yes, Americans tend to be "sheeple" but we also don't like to be told what to do (at least men don't). I also feel the need to pass this on: although many kinds of non-grocery stores have closed here, gun sales are going through the roof and ammo has become the new hot item. I was very afraid of this. Imo, society has been mentally/emotionally living on a 'hair trigger' for the last 20 years. All it will take is a bunch of armoured-up cops and guardsmen patrolling the streets to put the spirit of revolt into the hearts of people who have been feeling disenfranchised for along time. I don't even think it would take that much. With the restrictions already in place, we are going to see some very unhappy and desperate-feeling people 'unloading' their angst. In particular, I am VERY worried about incidences of Domestic Violence rising exponentially. Families with ongoing problems forced to stay at home........ There are several families in my neighborhood who have late Saturday night screaming sessions on the regular. Frankly, I think cops and the military are too terrified of us 'ordinary people' to start anything. People are going to get very desperate - they already are, in fact.

I don't want to come across as crazy myself, but I have been 'roughed up' pretty badly by cops on two occasions (protests). I'm 5'5" and 98 lbs. - threat to no one. I f something like that ever happens to me again, they might as well go ahead and shoot me, because I will never be touched like that again and I will never be put in jail for peaceful behavior.
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herbalhippie wrote:
brave777 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2RXLDa5no

Uploaded today how to kill CoronoVires , this can explain why kratom helps, it raises natural heat in body.
I take kratom all day every day and my temp runs about 97.8
HH, do you get any sedative effects from kratom at all? I mostly used Reds and I do find them very calming. I have been able to reduce my benzo use.
I know you like to keep your servings very small, but a higher dose can give relaxation for many of us.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/busi ... rtage.html

Many saw this coming... took long enough to get this threat to the masses.

And anyone have insight as to why Chine is kicking USA press out of its country/removing credentials? Prelude to something? Hope not, but my hope dwindles by the hour

Gonna go buy some kratom and foood/water and maybe a few other things :? (anyone know of good doomsday prep kits and where to buy them? Asking for, um, a friend ;) )
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MikeEdoessomething wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/busi ... rtage.html

Many saw this coming... took long enough to get this threat to the masses.

And anyone have insight as to why Chine is kicking USA press out of its country/removing credentials? Prelude to something? Hope not, but my hope dwindles by the hour

Gonna go buy some kratom and foood/water and maybe a few other things :? (anyone know of good doomsday prep kits and where to buy them? Asking for, um, a friend ;) )
My favorite supplement and vitamins and other good healthy stuff comes from these two sites...

https://www.healthrangerstore.com/ very good turmeric and black pepper powder and many other goodies. very important to stock up on tested product for heavy metals and this site tests everything, it can only make it to the menu through test.

and

https://getthetea.com/ Picked around the world some of the best product possible, that's why its on a bit more expensive side but if you can afford, you will be happy with product.

https://mypatriotsupply.com/pages/rs-re ... liam.mount If want to make bulk dry foods purchase, i would get it here, also he has a channel just for these foods. Channel is here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbFb7K ... MhyeSvS0Cg .

Any way this where i would look for my stuff, i hope some of it might of been useful for you.

There good gems in amazon as well, you just have to know what your looking for. I would also like what places the rest of you order from and why?
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Greyfeather wrote:
herbalhippie wrote:
brave777 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2RXLDa5no

Uploaded today how to kill CoronoVires , this can explain why kratom helps, it raises natural heat in body.
I take kratom all day every day and my temp runs about 97.8
HH, do you get any sedative effects from kratom at all? I mostly used Reds and I do find them very calming. I have been able to reduce my benzo use.
I know you like to keep your servings very small, but a higher dose can give relaxation for many of us.
I'm afraid of higher doses. I'm afraid of ramping up my tolerance. Afraid of withdrawal.
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MikeEdoessomething wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/busi ... rtage.html

Many saw this coming... took long enough to get this threat to the masses.

And anyone have insight as to why Chine is kicking USA press out of its country/removing credentials? Prelude to something? Hope not, but my hope dwindles by the hour

Gonna go buy some kratom and foood/water and maybe a few other things :? (anyone know of good doomsday prep kits and where to buy them? Asking for, um, a friend ;) )
China and the US have been playing this game for over a month: Just two pathetic world leaders bullying each other, using the press as a cudgel. The Chinese are probably allowing sick (and potentially sick) citizens to die in horrible conditions but they don't want anyone to know. We will probably never know the complete truth about what is happening there. I don't think that this single occurrence is cause for a loss of hope. The respirator situation is far worse and inexcusable, but we've known about this for while. Odd that the NYT is only getting around to reporting this.
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herbalhippie wrote:
I'm afraid of higher doses. I'm afraid of ramping up my tolerance. Afraid of withdrawal.
Yeah you have to be careful especially if you older. But i ll say one thing, like gumby said before you can can drop the higher dose by even reducing .5 grams everyday. me persoanly i can reduce half of it for few days and take 2-3 days off no problem, i know how wds feel and i am very comfortable with them because i am stocked on what forum members talked about,

black seed oil, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079Y ... UTF8&psc=1 I still got some left but planing to get another brand since last two i got both leaked and had to return.

olive leaf extract, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056 ... UTF8&psc=1 I noticed this helps a lot even one pill.

RHODIOLA 3% Salidrosides Extract Capsules, https://www.moodandmind.com/rhodiola-3- ... 250mg-x-30 This 100% helps me not have any wd's, amazing, the site also has powder form which might be cheaper but i am lazy to cap so i buy capped once.

there many other things out there that help like akuamma seed, which i might ass 1 or 2 small pills with any of the 3 options above. its just amazes me how much it helps... if people only knew everyone would be stocked up with these products.
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Greyfeather wrote:
MikeEdoessomething wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/busi ... rtage.html

Many saw this coming... took long enough to get this threat to the masses.

And anyone have insight as to why Chine is kicking USA press out of its country/removing credentials? Prelude to something? Hope not, but my hope dwindles by the hour

Gonna go buy some kratom and foood/water and maybe a few other things :? (anyone know of good doomsday prep kits and where to buy them? Asking for, um, a friend ;) )
China and the US have been playing this game for over a month: Just two pathetic world leaders bullying each other, using the press as a cudgel. The Chinese are probably allowing sick (and potentially sick) citizens to die in horrible conditions but they don't want anyone to know. We will probably never know the complete truth about what is happening there. I don't think that this single occurrence is cause for a loss of hope. The respirator situation is far worse and inexcusable, but we've known about this for while. Odd that the NYT is only getting around to reporting this.
Well said, my friend.

If I had to guess why mass media has not been sounding the alarm on the lack of medical equipment and the tragic fallout that could occur if the healthcare system is overwhelmed, is basically: the reality of the situation about the threat of the virus is being given to the mass public piece by piece. Because if the public saw the whole 'picture' of the possibly reality ahead, there would be extreme mass panic at widespread level that would be potentially cause collapse of the very systems the mass public relies on to maintain stability of current way of life

Our society is very very fragile. Talking with co-workers, my brother, etc, a lot of people just don't realize how quickly things could fall apart. I understand why, as ignorance is bliss for many. We've become so dependent on technology that a sudden and extended widespread power outage that removes that technology is a threat to our stability as a society. I am guilty of this myself. Sometimes it seems like many people believe the USA could never/will never collapse, ignoring the history that every great kingdom/country/empire/world power that rises also falls. And the collapse will not be fun.

(I have too much time on my hand to ponder about humanity and existence)
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Well said, my friend.

If I had to guess why mass media has not been sounding the alarm on the lack of medical equipment and the tragic fallout that could occur if the healthcare system is overwhelmed, is basically: the reality of the situation about the threat of the virus is being given to the mass public piece by piece. Because if the public saw the whole 'picture' of the possibly reality ahead, there would be extreme mass panic at widespread level that would be potentially cause collapse of the very systems the mass public relies on to maintain stability of current way of life

Our society is very very fragile. Talking with co-workers, my brother, etc, a lot of people just don't realize how quickly things could fall apart. I understand why, as ignorance is bliss for many. We've become so dependent on technology that a sudden and extended widespread power outage that removes that technology is a threat to our stability as a society. I am guilty of this myself. Sometimes it seems like many people believe the USA could never/will never collapse, ignoring the history that every great kingdom/country/empire/world power that rises also falls. And the collapse will not be fun.

(I have too much time on my hand to ponder about humanity and existence)
Very well said.

"(I have too much time on my hand to ponder about humanity and existence)" Oh, I don't know, lol. I think most of us waste a lot of time that could otherwise be spent thinking about the possible fate of humanity, how we could personally & collectively make a difference, how we could try to do no harm. Instead, we fight over toilet paper and shot gun shells. Keep thinking about these things, please ;)
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The more people get on board as collective to remove these greedy a holes the faster it will happen. If no one thinks about it then we will be 100% controlled and told what to do and every step you take, it affects everyone. Even secrete group with greedy people are sick of it and speaking out about the corruption everywhere. Like this CIA guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LTqz9EZHcA openly talkingabout his group agrees he needs to talk about it. Everyone is sick of the things evil people do.

But any way i missed this video on CV, 44 min long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb6nunU5emI

Main part is education and turn off fake news on TV or just keep one eye to see what they are up too. All they do is control and manipulate people with tons of subliminal fears. We as collective need to ignore them. When they get no views they cant control people because no one is on board with them. I also think about it but if anyone has good ideas how to improve spreading messages with positive vibes, please share. We need more of positive in this word, news tv we already know this will never happen.I heard TV news channels get paid to show a murder or something negative to lower the vibration of people because people think on it and ponder their thought all day on stories.
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Simon parks did another update, so this one only for London or U K people or who live there. He says to prepare!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80e4U61yduo
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I'm not going to lie, I'm scared. I'm usually very optimistic and level headed, but damn it's hard to be positive in these times.

I'm supposed to go back to work Monday, but I'm hoping they will shut the factory down for a few weeks. I don't see that happening, but fingers crossed.
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MetalMamaRocks wrote:I'm not going to lie, I'm scared. I'm usually very optimistic and level headed, but damn it's hard to be positive in these times.

I'm supposed to go back to work Monday, but I'm hoping they will shut the factory down for a few weeks. I don't see that happening, but fingers crossed.
I'm the same way. I know if they don't shut down for a little bit at my plant, then at some point I will bring the virus home and that scares me for my family. I just keep praying that it doesn't come to that.
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MetalMamaRocks wrote:I'm not going to lie, I'm scared. I'm usually very optimistic and level headed, but damn it's hard to be positive in these times.

I'm supposed to go back to work Monday, but I'm hoping they will shut the factory down for a few weeks. I don't see that happening, but fingers crossed.
Same boat, 10 k people in a plant. Got to go in today, unless something changes i ll let ya'll know. But i am not worried, i been coughed and sneezed on at the job past few weeks, going strong with kratom and some vitamin C before work.

New update, this was planned 4 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzdGXsp_ZQw
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brave777 wrote:
MetalMamaRocks wrote:I'm not going to lie, I'm scared. I'm usually very optimistic and level headed, but damn it's hard to be positive in these times.

I'm supposed to go back to work Monday, but I'm hoping they will shut the factory down for a few weeks. I don't see that happening, but fingers crossed.
Same boat, 10 k people in a plant. Got to go in today, unless something changes i ll let ya'll know. But i am not worried, i been coughed and sneezed on at the job past few weeks, going strong with kratom and some vitamin C before work.
Thankfully Kratom boosts the immune system.
New update, this was planned 4 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzdGXsp_ZQw
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Just saw on another forum that the State Dept is getting ready to announce a Level 4 Do Not Travel order. Nobody in, nobody out. I don't have time to look into this right now, I'm in the middle of a project, but there it is.

Also, I went to pick up a prescription and asked the tech when I could refill my inhaler because I want a backup. She said in 5 days but that they were having trouble getting them in stock. This is worrisome.
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