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Have you seen the new legislation for Kratom in Texas

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Hey family my wife and I own and operate Heavenly Herbal House and have recently went down to the Texas Senate to testify in opposition of some of the legislation attempting to be passed . They are continually trying to modify the bill to make it harder for smaller vendors to do business in Texas and if some of this passes it will affect all states by setting a precedent. I suggest writing your congressmen , senators whoever is passing laws in your state and wherever banns are being attempted and testify in letter how this will be cause big problems across the board for our community not just vendors. I know my wife and I rely on this herb and not only to pay our way through this life but as something to improve our health and well-being . We are strong in numbers and I know we can move mountains if we individually to our part. Appreciate all yal . Sincerely

Shane and Amanda ( Heavenly Herbal House)

Ps here's the bill being pushed through

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB1868/id/3208640
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Sorry to hear! FYI there’s another post here with lots of good info about what’s going on. Bill was amended to remove kratom powder but yes there are still a bunch of annoying restrictions. You can thank 7oh for this madness.
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GreenAnimal wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:22 am Sorry to hear! FYI there’s another post here with lots of good info about what’s going on. Bill was amended to remove kratom powder but yes there are still a bunch of annoying restrictions. You can thank 7oh for this madness.

Things in Texas are really bad. Because of the wording of the amendment it would ban plain leaf as well. Heres the update from the AKA.

"Thank you to everyone who has made calls and messaged the Texas Senate! The messages are getting through but the Texas SB 1868 is still alive and awful for Texans and all American kratom consumers. Although bill says it allows for kratom leaf, because of the product composition restraints on alkaloids like the .1% 7-OH limit included in the bill, it is effectively a ban on all kratom products on the market."

Here is the link to the amended bill.
https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB1868/2025
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7-hydroxymitragynine wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:06 pm Things in Texas are really bad. Because of the wording of the amendment it would ban plain leaf as well. Heres the update from the AKA.

"Thank you to everyone who has made calls and messaged the Texas Senate! The messages are getting through but the Texas SB 1868 is still alive and awful for Texans and all American kratom consumers. Although bill says it allows for kratom leaf, because of the product composition restraints on alkaloids like the .1% 7-OH limit included in the bill, it is effectively a ban on all kratom products on the market."

Here is the link to the amended bill.
https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB1868/2025
It's my understanding that most plain kratom powder doesn't reach this .1% limit. I believe issue lies in the selling regulations and whether or not vendors will want to deal with the hassle of selling in TX. I could be totally wrong though (wouldn't be the first time I'm totally wrong).
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GreenAnimal wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:44 pm
7-hydroxymitragynine wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:06 pm Things in Texas are really bad. Because of the wording of the amendment it would ban plain leaf as well. Heres the update from the AKA.

"Thank you to everyone who has made calls and messaged the Texas Senate! The messages are getting through but the Texas SB 1868 is still alive and awful for Texans and all American kratom consumers. Although bill says it allows for kratom leaf, because of the product composition restraints on alkaloids like the .1% 7-OH limit included in the bill, it is effectively a ban on all kratom products on the market."

Here is the link to the amended bill.
https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB1868/2025
It's my understanding that most plain kratom powder doesn't reach this .1% limit. I believe issue lies in the selling regulations and whether or not vendors will want to deal with the hassle of selling in TX. I could be totally wrong though (wouldn't be the first time I'm totally wrong).
The bill states - (3) contains a level of 7-hydroxymitragynine in the
alkaloid fraction that is greater than 0.1 [two] percent of the
overall alkaloid composition of the product; [or]

Key words is overall alkaloid composition of the product. Versus total weight. Now take note the section this is under. Sec. 445.003 [444.003]. ADULTERATED, CONTAMINATED, AND
PROHIBITED KRATOM PRODUCTS.

Here's my only guiding light though. Followed by - (6) is a prepackaged food other than:
(A) raw or dried kratom leaves;
(B) ground kratom leaves;
(C) kratom leaf powder; or
(D) clear capsules containing kratom leaf powder

I wish we had some legal experts to look over it. The bill is poorly written, and like reading hyroglyphics. The wording is VERY concerning though. As if you calculate the naturally occurring 7ohm by OVERALL alkaloid content of the product. That would indeed push it over the .1% limit.

Now does this only apply for extracts and does section 6 exempt kratom leaf powder from the above regulations. I'm not an expert, but this looks like poorly written legislation that is designed to be deceptive and misleading. Or outright malicious.

Sen Perry said out loud that this wouldn't effect plain leaf. On April 7th.
https://senate.texas.gov/videoplayer.ph ... 65&lang=en

I don't believe one word out of any politicians mouth. The way the bill is currently write IMHO would ban kratom outright.
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Do you realize how many of our beloved vendors are out of Texas? I'm scared.
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WhiteAngelica wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:58 pm Do you realize how many of our beloved vendors are out of Texas? I'm scared.
That's the thing and I think they know that. Texas is a HUGE kratom state. Lots of good vendors call Texas home, but....

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I live in Texas and if this passes, I'm moving. As I'm sure many of the vendors will be too. I highly doubt they will abandon their businesses, they will probably just relocate.

I was already planning on moving anyway in the next year or so because I can't stand it here, but this will definitely accelerate my timeline.

The AKA is hard at work to stop this in the House. We still have a chance to get our voices heard. So this isn't a done deal yet. The wording is extremely vague. I'm going to do some digging into this and see what I can uncover.

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e_poison wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:29 pm I live in Texas and if this passes, I'm moving.
I'd love to leave as well. Not sure where I'd go. Being disabled makes it much more difficult, but I've had enough of our State Government to relocate somewhere else gladly.

Especially having to deal with this less than 2 years after the KCPA passed. It's freaking beyond frustrating. I'm losing my shit right now
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e_poison wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:29 pm The AKA is hard at work to stop this in the House. We still have a chance to get our voices heard. So this isn't a done deal yet. The wording is extremely vague. I'm going to do some digging into this and see what I can uncover.

This WHOLE deal in Texas, IS a MESS - :? and sadly, AKA has "Shot themselves in the Foot" :roll: - and, IS part of the problem here - Mac Haddow the “Senior Fellow on Public Policy” at the AKA - Now in FEAR that "Big Kratom" vendors will LEAVE AKA - and join a competing group, GKC - This is not neutrality... This is not caution... This is a full-blown crusade against 7OH.
Reddit Link today w/ AKA Video Link - https://old.reddit.com/r/7ohAdvocacy/co ... hours_ago/

So what's the "Take Away" from the past MONTH ?? - In My opinion, the AKA Does No longer represent Kratom Consumers. - They ONLY work for "Big Kratom" vendors now... and that's SAD to see. But not a surprise, really ? Follow The Money. That's the bottom line apparently... AKA gets their Money from OPMS and MIT-45, and those companies have told Mac Haddow, he MUST Lobby against 7OH - OR be Fired!!! :o

In the PAST - I've been a SUPPORTER, and AKA "has been" walking a fine line - "Free Markets", saying "AKA does not pick Winners & Losers" - that ALL changed over the past Month. 😟
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Texas is a big state that could set a big precedent for other states.
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piranha45 wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:09 pm Texas is a big state that could set a big precedent for other states.
It certainly will. Texas is very influential. All these recent ban attempts on kratom have me about ready to activate final phase panic buy mode. 😥
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I’ve read this bill several times and from what I can tell it does NOT ban plain leaf kratom. It will make distributors test there products. It will ban the 7 oh thing. I’ve never tried it but that’s what they’re after and if that’s your thing I’m truly sorry. The part about banning 7-hydroxymitragynine over .1 in my understanding won’t ban plain leaf. Most testing results are at around.01 so not even close. also The senator who’s bill it is has said he’s not trying to ban plain leaf.
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Ch98579 wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 3:42 pm I’ve read this bill several times and from what I can tell it does NOT ban plain leaf kratom. It will make distributors test there products. It will ban the 7 oh thing. I’ve never tried it but that’s what they’re after and if that’s your thing I’m truly sorry. The part about banning 7-hydroxymitragynine over .1 in my understanding won’t ban plain leaf. Most testing results are at around.01 so not even close. also The senator who’s bill it is has said he’s not trying to ban plain leaf.
Great points, but the issue is that the wording in the bill is vague. It needs to specify by weight or total composition as those are two very different things.
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BallzDeep9 wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:05 pm
e_poison wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:29 pm The AKA is hard at work to stop this in the House. We still have a chance to get our voices heard. So this isn't a done deal yet. The wording is extremely vague. I'm going to do some digging into this and see what I can uncover.

This WHOLE deal in Texas, IS a MESS - :? and sadly, AKA has "Shot themselves in the Foot" :roll: - and, IS part of the problem here - Mac Haddow the “Senior Fellow on Public Policy” at the AKA - Now in FEAR that "Big Kratom" vendors will LEAVE AKA - and join a competing group, GKC - This is not neutrality... This is not caution... This is a full-blown crusade against 7OH.
Reddit Link today w/ AKA Video Link - https://old.reddit.com/r/7ohAdvocacy/co ... hours_ago/

So what's the "Take Away" from the past MONTH ?? - In My opinion, the AKA Does No longer represent Kratom Consumers. - They ONLY work for "Big Kratom" vendors now... and that's SAD to see. But not a surprise, really ? Follow The Money. That's the bottom line apparently... AKA gets their Money from OPMS and MIT-45, and those companies have told Mac Haddow, he MUST Lobby against 7OH - OR be Fired!!! :o

In the PAST - I've been a SUPPORTER, and AKA "has been" walking a fine line - "Free Markets", saying "AKA does not pick Winners & Losers" - that ALL changed over the past Month. 😟
💯 He shot self in foot! 🦶.. hating on and fearmongering 7-oh, and pushing the max 0.02% 7-oh part.. worse is the GKC (0.01%).
Both are for big Kratom, but GKC especially much worse imo.
It's a shame on the reefer-madness re 7oh.
Focus should've been basic proper labeling, and age restriction (maybe even not advertising on shelves but to be asked for maybe even at best) .

The leaf purists pushing 7-oh will ban Kratom actually brought it upon imo, like AKA. not the 7-oh itself, but the fearmongering.

Hopefully things work out overall.. I'm sure big pharma will try to make that not happen. Lost $ .. and they definitely have the lobbyists and officials ugh 😩..
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So here we are some weeks later, and the Texas bill is just sitting in the House. Not really much happening with it yet, so no updates to give, but I’ll post the hearing date(s) as soon as I know.
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Any word on the Florida bill?
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There's something in North Carolina too, I believe (not ban, but heavy restriction, if I remember correctly)
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Kelleytoons wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 8:23 pm Any word on the Florida bill?
I think Florida is considered safe for the time being. The bills are not expected to progress. Texas, on the other hand... the bill has passed the Senate and now in the House. While it doesn't outright ban kratom, the wording is concerning.
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That's good news for my Florida friends (who haven't stocked up on stuff as I have :>). I'll keep praying for everyone everywhere else.
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The Texas bill is expected to fail in the House. Will know more soon!
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That's good news - hopefully the Florida bill will keep its present status (which is to say looks to be dead - but you never know until they sine die).
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