7-Hydroxymitragynine tablets vendor

[anonk]

They are restocked with the basic tablets (and a few others). I spoke with the guy and apparently it was folks here (both on the thread and lurking) who caused the rush.

He's pretty good about restocking so it always helps to check back periodically. Today I ordered some of the heavy weight 50mg tablets (never had them before so it will be interesting).

As with kratom, it pays to experiment and get your dose down correctly. When I first tried them I didn't like them at all but now I'm sold.

Can I ask how many weeks you've gone without taking it? 6 months of using a powerful opioid daily just doesn't seem very prudent to me.

[Kelleytoons]

And I would say just the opposite - but be aware that just like with the early days of kratom when there were a lot of sketchy folks selling a lot of sketchy products it sounds like the previous poster got something like that.

If you buy from a reputable vendor (as Mr. B and I both recommend) you won't have any of that. And it's NOT a problem if you use 7oh correctly. The same is true of ANYTHING. You can even abuse kratom (look at all the horror stories on Reddit and you'll see that you can't trust half the people in the world that complain).

Like with everything else, you need to try for yourself to see. It's okay to be cautious (again, you should with EVERYTHING) but it's also not something I would be scared of.

[Kelleytoons]

Can I ask how many weeks you've gone without taking it? 6 months of using a powerful opioid daily just doesn't seem very prudent to me.

NOT an opioid - neither is kratom. You have GOT to stop spreading falsehoods (trust me, just because something hits the same receptors doesn't mean it's the same thing. Even aspirin hits some of those receptors).

My journey about taking "things" is complicated. My knee pain (the reason I started taking kratom) went completely away and so I stopped using almost anything. Then my shoulder started to be a problem, and it's such a problem I need a reverse shoulder replacement (look it up - pretty serious stuff). THAT pain is, in some ways, worse than my knees, but in some ways less. When I play tennis it's really bad, and I need something to help me sleep at night.

I first tried kratom and it helped... a bit. But not much. So I started drinking alcohol, MUCH more than I should but that wasn't good (and kept me from sleeping). Then I even tried THC and all the various combinations of that and it didn't help at all (plus I hated the feeling of being dizzy). I even tried oxy (we have a TON of it) and while it helped that meant I was back on opioids. So I tried 7oh and it seems the perfect blend of pain relief and sleep aid. Plus - no opioids. But I don't need it on the days I don't play tennis (and on those days I don't take anything, not even kratom). Right now I'm playing two-three days a week so that's when I take 7oh but after my surgery (at the end of April) and recovery I'm hoping I won't use anything anymore (and, yes, that includes kratom - unlike a lot of you I don't use it for any other reason other than my pain levels. I'm already a VERY happy guy :>).

I would think if you don't have pain issues and kratom is working for you don't look any further. But otherwise 7oh is a definite tool you should have in your cabinet for those times when pain is a problem.

[wolfman5874]

Blaming 7OH for Kratom's downfall is like blaming the gun that was used to murder someone.

[anonk]

Can I ask how many weeks you've gone without taking it? 6 months of using a powerful opioid daily just doesn't seem very prudent to me.

NOT an opioid - neither is kratom. You have GOT to stop spreading falsehoods (trust me, just because something hits the same receptors doesn't mean it's the same thing. Even aspirin hits some of those receptors).

My journey about taking "things" is complicated. My knee pain (the reason I started taking kratom) went completely away and so I stopped using almost anything. Then my shoulder started to be a problem, and it's such a problem I need a reverse shoulder replacement (look it up - pretty serious stuff). THAT pain is, in some ways, worse than my knees, but in some ways less. When I play tennis it's really bad, and I need something to help me sleep at night.

I first tried kratom and it helped... a bit. But not much. So I started drinking alcohol, MUCH more than I should but that wasn't good (and kept me from sleeping). Then I even tried THC and all the various combinations of that and it didn't help at all (plus I hated the feeling of being dizzy). I even tried oxy (we have a TON of it) and while it helped that meant I was back on opioids. So I tried 7oh and it seems the perfect blend of pain relief and sleep aid. Plus - no opioids. But I don't need it on the days I don't play tennis (and on those days I don't take anything, not even kratom). Right now I'm playing two-three days a week so that's when I take 7oh but after my surgery (at the end of April) and recovery I'm hoping I won't use anything anymore (and, yes, that includes kratom - unlike a lot of you I don't use it for any other reason other than my pain levels. I'm already a VERY happy guy :>).

I would think if you don't have pain issues and kratom is working for you don't look any further. But otherwise 7oh is a definite tool you should have in your cabinet for those times when pain is a problem.

How am I spreading falsehoods?, it's been well documented for decades that 7-oh is a powerful partial opioid agonist. https://naturetrust.org/wp-content/uplo ... Studie.pdf
Show me one scientific study where they call 7-oh anything other than an opioid.

Among the components isolated in this study, 7-hydroxymitragynine exhibited the most potent
activity. The potency, calculated using pD2 values, was about 30 and 17 fold higher than that of
mitragynine and morphine, respectively. Taken together with this potency, it is suggested that the
opioid effect of Mitragyna speciosa is based on the activity of 7-hydroxymitragynine

[SeventhHeaven]

yes use half your dose of kratom with 5-10mg of the tablet

Thanks! This I shall do, in a couple or three days!

Might be a good way to "enhance" some leaf that wasn't bad but wasn't super-good.

[Sityice]

7oh is without a doubt 100% an opiate. It’s a safe opiate since it’s practically impossible to overdose but it’s 13 times more potent than morphine…. No Kratom plant is anywhere near that type of strength. It’s also extremely addictive and if your someone who takes Kratom everyday than I can almost guarantee that you will be taking 7oh everyday too. I mean I’m sure 99% of plain leaf vendors can attest to this since it seems like their sales have dropped significantly. I used to see the best small batch vendors run out of their newest batches within hours of dropping now I see them having stock on products for months. So many of this community has been taken over by 7oh and it just completely wrecks your tolerance to the point that plain leaf does nothing.

[Kelleytoons]

LOL - if it was an opioid I can PROMISE you the FDA would have banned it by now.

If you have some scientific studies where it say that, I wouldn't mind seeing them (not wiki, for sure, although to be sure there are equally bad studies "quoted" on kratom). NOT that it hits the opioid receptors (because, again, a ton of things do that. Including kratom).

And anybody can abuse ANYTHING. We've seen a ton of folks here taking 30-50 grams of kratom PER DAY (which is ridiculous). I can't tell how you much oxy and Vicodin I have in this house (bottles and bottles of it because that's what doctors prescribe for old people :>). My wife was taking six 10mg a day for months. I was taking it four times a day for my knee pain at one point. But neither of us take any now because we don't have an addictive personality. Both of just stopped cold turkey one day because we didn't need it anymore. If you have an addictive personality - you'll abuse anything (including alcohol, which is the most abused drug of all).

But whatever - do whatever you want. Just don't raise 7oh as a boogey man or we'll run into them doing the same for kratom. Let the market decide.

[anonk]

LOL - if it was an opioid I can PROMISE you the FDA would have banned it by now.

If you have some scientific studies where it say that, I wouldn't mind seeing them (not wiki, for sure, although to be sure there are equally bad studies "quoted" on kratom). NOT that it hits the opioid receptors (because, again, a ton of things do that. Including kratom).

And anybody can abuse ANYTHING. We've seen a ton of folks here taking 30-50 grams of kratom PER DAY (which is ridiculous). I can't tell how you much oxy and Vicodin I have in this house (bottles and bottles of it because that's what doctors prescribe for old people :>). My wife was taking six 10mg a day for months. I was taking it four times a day for my knee pain at one point. But neither of us take any now because we don't have an addictive personality. Both of just stopped cold turkey one day because we didn't need it anymore. If you have an addictive personality - you'll abuse anything (including alcohol, which is the most abused drug of all).

But whatever - do whatever you want. Just don't raise 7oh as a boogey man or we'll run into them doing the same for kratom. Let the market decide.

Are you really playing dumb, people in this very thread say "it feels just like oxy does" you have people snorting it, smoking it off foil, pills flying off the shelves of smoke shops, people experiencing significant opioid withdrawals from them yet it's not "an opioid lol". Here's an experiment, stop taking them for 2 weeks and tell me what you experience. If it's not an opioid you should experience no withdrawals.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-76119-w
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7923387/

[Sityice]

Yeah totally agree I think he’s purposely playing dumb or something? Literally all of 7oh Reddit is people talking about nodding out, comparing it to street drugs, and you forgot not just smoking but boofing it too… I’ve also seen countless people on the heroin subreddit say that they take 7oh sometimes when they can’t get any heroin and it works JUST AS FINE… that’s. Wild.

Also people have checked themselves into hospitals for withdrawals and the side effects are crazy, I’ve experienced sleep paralysis about 50 times from this. This thing is not “good” and no one in their right mind should convince an innocent Kratom user to use this..? Do you even know what you’re doing???? Do you know how many people take Kratom to stay off of harder drugs? A lot of these people are throwing away 10,000 20,0000 dollars on this thing then checking themselves into rehabs or taking subs to get off… why would you want someone to do that????

[wolfman5874]

Why is there so much anger in this thread? Regardless if someone recommends 7oh here or not, users are going to find out about it eventually. At least here people throw caution with it. My smoke shop literally gave me a free tablet one day with my kratom purchase and at the time I didn't even know 7oh existed. Smoke shops are pushing them without any caution.

If a user gets addicted they can only blame themselves. No one is playing dumb here. There is enough info on this stuff to make up your own mind If you want to try it or not.

[Sityice]

I think that any real Kratom community needs to understand that 7oh is not Kratom or else Kratom is in jeopardy of getting banned altogether. Also in the early 1900s when heroin was actually legal and people started to realize what was going on would you be the type of person to be like “hey bro…. Go down to your local pharmacy and pick up some cough medicine called heroin. TRUST ME BRO.” Or maybe you’d be better off being like ummmm no don’t do that?

[anonk]

Why is there so much anger in this thread? Regardless if someone recommends 7oh here or not, users are going to find out about it eventually. At least here people throw caution with it. My smoke shop literally gave me a free tablet one day with my kratom purchase and at the time I didn't even know 7oh existed. Smoke shops are pushing them without any caution.

If a user gets addicted they can only blame themselves. No one is playing dumb here. There is enough info on this stuff to make up your own mind If you want to try it or not.

No anger here, I just think people should be fully aware of what they are taking, you have companies marketing it as a kratom product and people think "oh, it's just kratom" not knowing what they are consuming is an opioid on par with hydro and oxy and unknowingly ending up developing an opioid dependence, I don't think that's fair. The withdrawals I've seen from just taking 20mg or less a day is no joke, it's incredibly dangerous when you have people deny that it's an opioid.

[wolfman5874]

Why is there so much anger in this thread? Regardless if someone recommends 7oh here or not, users are going to find out about it eventually. At least here people throw caution with it. My smoke shop literally gave me a free tablet one day with my kratom purchase and at the time I didn't even know 7oh existed. Smoke shops are pushing them without any caution.

If a user gets addicted they can only blame themselves. No one is playing dumb here. There is enough info on this stuff to make up your own mind If you want to try it or not.

No anger here, I just think people should be fully aware of what they are taking, you have companies marketing it as a kratom product and people think "oh, it's just kratom" not knowing what they are consuming is an opioid on par with hydro and oxy and unknowingly ending up developing an opioid dependence, I don't think that's fair. The withdrawals I've seen from just taking 20mg or less a day is no joke, it's incredibly dangerous when you have people deny that it's an opioid.

Anyone that partakes going by the label or what the guy said at the smoke shop instead of doing their own research isn't intelligent. While I understand the marketing is misleading there is so many other products being sold under false advertisement. You can blame the vendor or manufacturer all day long but at the end of the day you can only point that finger at the mirror.

[Sityice]

Why is there so much anger in this thread? Regardless if someone recommends 7oh here or not, users are going to find out about it eventually. At least here people throw caution with it. My smoke shop literally gave me a free tablet one day with my kratom purchase and at the time I didn't even know 7oh existed. Smoke shops are pushing them without any caution.

If a user gets addicted they can only blame themselves. No one is playing dumb here. There is enough info on this stuff to make up your own mind If you want to try it or not.

No anger here, I just think people should be fully aware of what they are taking, you have companies marketing it as a kratom product and people think "oh, it's just kratom" not knowing what they are consuming is an opioid on par with hydro and oxy and unknowingly ending up developing an opioid dependence, I don't think that's fair. The withdrawals I've seen from just taking 20mg or less a day is no joke, it's incredibly dangerous when you have people deny that it's an opioid.

Anyone that partakes going by the label or what the guy said at the smoke shop instead of doing their own research isn't intelligent. While I understand the marketing is misleading there is so many other products being sold under false advertisement. You can blame the vendor or manufacturer all day long but at the end of the day you can only point that finger at the mirror.

I completely disagree and I bet there’s thousands and thousands of preventable addictions if they didn’t label this as “kratom” alone

[wolfman5874]

No anger here, I just think people should be fully aware of what they are taking, you have companies marketing it as a kratom product and people think "oh, it's just kratom" not knowing what they are consuming is an opioid on par with hydro and oxy and unknowingly ending up developing an opioid dependence, I don't think that's fair. The withdrawals I've seen from just taking 20mg or less a day is no joke, it's incredibly dangerous when you have people deny that it's an opioid.

Anyone that partakes going by the label or what the guy said at the smoke shop instead of doing their own research isn't intelligent. While I understand the marketing is misleading there is so many other products being sold under false advertisement. You can blame the vendor or manufacturer all day long but at the end of the day you can only point that finger at the mirror.

I completely disagree and I bet there’s thousands and thousands of preventable addictions if they didn’t label this as “kratom” alone

I don't disagree with you necessarily. I'm saying at some point the individual has to realize "hey im taking this stuff way too much, maybe i should layoff or get some help. Maybe i should have done some of my own research".

Also more than likely it's not this persons first addiction. Like Kelleytoons said, you can become addicted to just about anything.

So many people don't want to take responsibility for their own actions and rather blame anyone except themselves.

[IndelibleDotInk]

I have used two vendors but at the moment this is the ONLY one I'd ever use (their products are amazing, the vendor is really nice and responsive):

https://omegaextrax.com/

Right now there is a 50% sale on the "normal" one I use (the 20mg lemon flavored one). I've also just ordered the stronger, 30mg one just to test it out. I usually use half a tablet at night and the pain relief and sleep aid is the best there is.

I placed an order. Previously I used Wicked tablets with good results. At the time they had strawberry tablets which were 19mg? A quarter of a pill was very nice. Now they only have powder in stock, which I have not tried.

Are Omegaextrax's strips like... breath strips or candied belts? I placed an order for some tablet/pills.

[Kelleytoons]

I haven't used any strips - they actually sent me a sample of one but I haven't tried it yet.

(And I agree about folks talking about the anger here - for those WAY too young to remember, this was EXACTLY the kind of thing we got when kratom first came on the market. Reddit in particular had folks talking about the dangers of kratom, and being SO mad that anyone was daring use it. I honestly don't care whether anyone uses 7oh or not, but I am convinced of it's benefits, and it is not any more dangerous than ANY other thing you can use - the number one abused drug even today is aspirin, and if we knew then what we know now it would be a prescribed drug).

[anonk]

The number one abused drug is alcohol, drugs with abuse potential are abused, I don't know anyone snorting aspirin, why? because it doesn't get you high.

[Sityice]

I genuinely believe that 7oh has a place in this world. The entire kratom plant is such a unique, almost miracle like plant that even when you isolate it's strongest most potent alkaloid, it still can't cause a lethal overdose.... I think 7oh could be more effective for pain than 99% of whats prescribed to people. Actually I bet if they solely prescribed 7oh and completely banned Opium than overdoses would drop significantly. I'm not mad btw I was more surprised because I remember when 7oh first came out and there was plenty of threads/people on here talking about how horrible it was. I went through the cycle that 99% of people are going to go through with 7oh. At first I was in shock at how amazing it was. I thought that anyone against it was a lunatic, I thought it was a miracle. I only took a small amount a day for a very long time and it changed my life (just like any hard drug would). But powerful drugs ALWAYS find a way to turn on you eventually. Before I knew it one dose a day wasn't enough I needed 3. Then I needed 5. Then 8. Then 10. Then I stopped counting and was taking probably 20 tablets a day. I was dropping insane amounts of money and centering my entire day around 7oh. If I wasn't taking it then I was reading about it or talking about it on reddit/discord. I would browse tablets as if they were jewelry and spend hours just looking at the new flavors etc.... and then, and I promise you this will happen to everyone else, it eventually became ineffective. It actually got to the point where I couldn't even feel it anymore. I started to wake up 3am everyday in horrible withdrawal. I would need to take a dose just to get back to sleep. Then I started to wake up twice during the night. Once to dose and the second time with sleep paralysis. Instead of feeling relief I started to feel numb and genuinely gross. My body was rejecting whatever was in this, it didn't want it anymore so I took a break. Got myself down to 3 tablets a day again. Then after a week or so of that, they all of a sudden started to hit again so I went right back up to 5-10 a day again.

This thing is different than Kratom leaf, it's not meant for people to consume so easily. I think the fact that you can't overdose on it means it has a place in this world for pain, surgery, medicinal benefits, etc... but I don't think its good for vendors to be turning these tablets into candy so people can pop them like they are opening a bag of M&M's. Also the strengths in mg keeps going up and up. It used to only be 10-15mg tablets now its standard for tablets to be 20mg with vendors selling tablets as high as 50mg... What used to be 5 tablets is now sold as one single tablet.... You see this cycle happening everywhere too and what really bothers me is the smoke shop owners. You guys know DAMN WELL that people are spending their life savings and maxing out their credit cards to purchase these things yet you don't take them off the shelves because you care more about money than being a halfway decent human. Greed is one of the worst sins so good luck with whatever happens to you......

All I'm saying is that 7oh is a very new substance and it needs time to go through its cycle of "wow this is amazing!!!!"
to "ok I'm highly addicted...."
to "I need help and this isn't working anymore"
to "I can't get off of this on my own I need subs or rehab"

and I can almost GUARANTEE you that this will 10000000000000000% happen. You can already see it happening to thousands and thousands of people on reddit.

[Kelleytoons]

Again (and I say this will all due respect) what you are reporting MIGHT be true even for many folks - but saying it will ALWAYS be true for EVERYBODY is ridiculous. By that argument you would have to ban EVERYTHING (and I mean it. Even aspirin - and yes, there are a ton more deaths due to it that don't get reported).

Abusers abuse. They WILL find a way. Addictive personalities do this even with kratom. We've seen a LOT of folks taking ridiculous amounts of kratom per day. The nice thing about 7oh is that it IS expensive, so most REASONABLE people will find that caps their experience right there and then. If it did not for you then I'm sorry to say you have a problem. NOT the drug. Just like we can't blame guns for people misusing them (although a lot of folks try).

So - stay the hell away from it, to be sure. But that's YOU. For others I would highly recommend at least trying it. To me it's a tool like everything else in my arsenal. Because neither my wife nor I have addictive personalities we are able to manage things (which is why we have a TON more alcohol in our house that we will never drink. LOL. We bought SO much so we'd have everything on hand for people and now it just takes up room. Same for oxy - we have literally hundreds of pills and my wife is now down to 1 daily (she gets prescribed 6 daily) and I haven't taken any for a month or two since I started using 7oh. Which I will most likely stop as soon as my shoulder is repaired. (right now I've cut it down to three pills a week to 1 pill cut in quarters).

The one thing we don't want to do is demonize things that WE can't handle - the opposite side of the coin is we do not want to treat addictions lightly. Folks with that personality problem need help, and I hope you get some soon.

[Sityice]

Again (and I say this will all due respect) what you are reporting MIGHT be true even for many folks - but saying it will ALWAYS be true for EVERYBODY is ridiculous. By that argument you would have to ban EVERYTHING (and I mean it. Even aspirin - and yes, there are a ton more deaths due to it that don't get reported).

Abusers abuse. They WILL find a way. Addictive personalities do this even with kratom. We've seen a LOT of folks taking ridiculous amounts of kratom per day. The nice thing about 7oh is that it IS expensive, so most REASONABLE people will find that caps their experience right there and then. If it did not for you then I'm sorry to say you have a problem. NOT the drug. Just like we can't blame guns for people misusing them (although a lot of folks try).

So - stay the hell away from it, to be sure. But that's YOU. For others I would highly recommend at least trying it. To me it's a tool like everything else in my arsenal. Because neither my wife nor I have addictive personalities we are able to manage things (which is why we have a TON more alcohol in our house that we will never drink. LOL. We bought SO much so we'd have everything on hand for people and now it just takes up room. Same for oxy - we have literally hundreds of pills and my wife is now down to 1 daily (she gets prescribed 6 daily) and I haven't taken any for a month or two since I started using 7oh. Which I will most likely stop as soon as my shoulder is repaired. (right now I've cut it down to three pills a week to 1 pill cut in quarters).

The one thing we don't want to do is demonize things that WE can't handle - the opposite side of the coin is we do not want to treat addictions lightly. Folks with that personality problem need help, and I hope you get some soon.

I think what your doing is taking your experience, which will be the experience of less than 0.0000000001% of people who use 7oh, and saying that it will be everyone else's experience whereas taking my experience is what will realistically be everyone else's experience. You genuinely believe that most people will try 7oh and be like "oh cool... that felt great... time to go on with my day!". This thing is scientifically 13x more potent than morphine lol.... I'm not trying to be mean but that's borderline delusional... That's like making heroin legal and being like "hey man. You got no one to blame but yourself if you can't control how much you take of it". Your way of thinking is essentially the same exact way that the Sackler family's way of thinking was.... prescribe opiates to anyone and everyone and I'm sure nothing bad will happen but its literal historical fact that the pharmaceutical industry single handedly caused a massive uptick in addiction and deaths.... Its really not rocket science to realize what is the correct scenario here I mean again I don't want to be mean but you seriously think most people will try 7oh and be like "yeah that was sweet... ok byebye now I'll try using that again in a month or so"?

[anonk]

The part that seems to be missed here is that opioids are addictive by nature and not just a personality flaw, your brain is wired to be seek rewarding behaviors, and opioids do that incredibly well. Right now it's pretty easy for me not to do cocaine or meth, because those are destructive and addictive drugs I'll never try them. Telling someone they should give 7-oh a try (if they don't have a need for opioids) is opening that pandora's box. Suddenly the person knows how incredible they are, soon they are using once a month, then it's every weekend, then it's ever day. I've never been addicted to opioids but when I was prescribed them I felt this compulsion to keep using, something that I've never experienced before. I experience the same thing with 7-oh, I never ever get this with kratom or even extracts. I remember the first time you tried half a tablet Kelleytoons, you had something similar.

However I kind of hate being out of control in any respect, and last night I felt that way and it was not at all pleasant.

[SeventhHeaven]

.....

[wolfman5874]

Kelleytoons, does omega send their product in discreet packaging? I plan on making an order.

[GreenAnimal]

Kelleytoons, does omega send their product in discreet packaging? I plan on making an order.

If they ship it via usps, it should just come in a plain unmarked package. I don’t think I’ve ever ordered from a vendor who mails out in branded boxes/packages so you should be okay.

[Kelleytoons]

Actually if you order over $150 they will ship UPS ground, and, yes, it will come in the standard UPS ground packaging now.

[oftheshire]

I think these concerns are extremely valid. I’ve been taking a very small amount here and there with my normal dose, maybe 1/4 of a tablet. And while I’m not addicted and fiending for them, i wonder if I’ll have any Wd symptoms just cause the Reddit horror stories. I know everyone’s different, and as a daily kratom user for years, I can stop for weeks at a time with zero withdrawal symptoms beyond maybe runny nose and some light things. Has anyone that’s not addicted to 7oh stopped taking them after a week or 2 of light use? If so, any extreme withdrawals?


Ps to the wolf user, no - omega 7oh is the least discreet kratom product you could purchase, has a big labeled sticker on the outside keeping the package shut. Sounds like the people who told u it’s totally fine and discreet are tryna get you in trouble

[oftheshire]

A lot of users on Reddit have developed heart issues from 7oh at low doses, suspecting solvents in the tablets are cause potassium drops which are dangerous.

[Kelleytoons]

Because of the issues noted you need to buy them from a reputable vendor - Omega has third party testing done and I trust them more than I trust a whole lot of kratom vendors.

As with ANYTHING be careful, particularly if you ARE subject to addictive things. Everyone is different - I got my alcohol consumption up to MUCH more per day than healthy and then just completely cut it out. Now I can take a drink once a month with no problems of just stopping. But if you can't do that or are worried then don't take ANYTHING that might prove addictive (and that includes kratom).

[oftheshire]

They are restocked with the basic tablets (and a few others). I spoke with the guy and apparently it was folks here (both on the thread and lurking) who caused the rush.

He's pretty good about restocking so it always helps to check back periodically. Today I ordered some of the heavy weight 50mg tablets (never had them before so it will be interesting).

As with kratom, it pays to experiment and get your dose down correctly. When I first tried them I didn't like them at all but now I'm sold.

Late to the party here ~ I'm with everything Kelley sez... Omega Extrax is #1 7Oh vendor, for several reasons. They just got independent 3rd Party Lab tested by "Test My Kratom" dot com... the tablets are Grade A, both accurate dosage and quality - the 7Oh industry is booming (an off shoot of the Kratom industry, lol) - www.testmykratom.org

Top vendors like Omega are moving a HUGE # product ~ Sold-out's and Re-stocks happen weekly ~ I just ordered a few 30mg Strawberry Tarts, ($5 each, double strength tabs), and some of their Star Cluster *Full Spectrum* powder which is cheap $40 gram, as far as powders go. A digital Mg Scale is strongly advised ~ this powder 41% 7-Hydroxy WITH Mitragynine and a bit of "Pseudoindoxyl" & trace alks... compare to other more pure 7-Hydroxy powders 80% more like an isolate.

Omega Extrax is a leader in 7Oh, original supporter of the H.A.R.T. Advocacy Organization, this is becoming an issue as the vendors jockey for position & a BIG % of kratom consumers HAVE switched over, from Plain Leaf --> to 7Oh and, many have completely switched (Chronic Pain people/ Opioid Recovery people) so you can imagine... the established Big Kratom companies are losing/. Have Lost / maybe half of their business over the past 18 months!! https://hartsupporter.com/

This is causing a revolt from A.K.A. as some of their biggest $ Big dollar vendors $ are demanding that A.K.A. come out against 7OH - and to their credit, A.K.A. stands firm they are not picking Winners and Losers in the marketplace... the political situation is now totally up-ended as, a California group G.K.C. is attacking 7OH and financed by a billionaire vendor "Feel Free" who is facing their own lawsuits... I still follow AKA on YouTube and the #1 Social Media place is still... Reddit

Since starting 7oh, how many days have you taken 2-4 days off to test withdrawal effects? Same goes for anyone taking this stuff. I got some a couple weeks ago and have been using 5mg a day, taking 48-72 hours off here and there and now taking every other day til they’re gone and will not be purchasing more. I know if you have discipline you shouldn’t go based off the horror stories, but for me it’s better to be safe than sorry. I’m just curious cause many people have become physically dependent after small doses for less than 2 weeks. It’s not a shocker because it is indeed a very powerful substance. I’ve also read from almost everyone that the 7oh dosing renders their normal kratom doses useless for days to weeks after a single 7oh dose. I’m curious if anyone is truly using this stuff responsibly, and if I’m doing so you can keep a taking normal kratom with proper effects. I can’t tell if they’ve effected mine yet cause I’m also taking new strains of kratom powder. But yeah, there’s many people against it so I would be interested to hear from those advocating it if they’ve taken several days off and also if it affects their normal kratom doses. If someones advocating for it but hasnt taken days off to really rest their bodies dependence, then you probably shouldn’t speak on that part. Cheers! Stay smart, stay disciplined, stay safe..

[Kelleytoons]

Not sure if you're asking me or Mr. B but before my shoulder started falling completely apart I was only taking 7oh on the weekends (so that's definitely fitting into that pattern you mentioned).

Now I take it when I play tennis - so that's a bit more frequently although I still (now) don't use it on the weekends.

As to the kratom - again, since my shoulder went south I've kind of cut way back on use but it seems to work fine when I do use it (I'll use it this morning, for example). I have not noticed any effect whatsoever in terms of kratom not working for me even on the days I take 7oh.

But an interesting point was raised in this thread that I want to address - I think it might make a HUGE difference where you get your 7oh. Just like the early days with kratom, folks selling this stuff might mix or have almost anything in their offerings. The ONLY vendor I've used has been Omega so perhaps my good experiences are due to that.

I'm not sure I'd ever tell anybody that 7oh should be a daily occurrence, like kratom can be. But I think it's a very useful tool to have in your arsenal, particularly if you suffer from extreme pain. (For me it remains to be seen how much, if any, I'll take after my shoulder replacement and it's complete healing, which should take two or three months. But we'll see).

[oftheshire]

Ok thanks for the reply Kelley, it was for anyone with experience. Yeah i just think these conversations are good and the less bias the better. That’s great to hear it hasn’t caused bad w/d for you. And yeah I also have omega tablets, only use about 5mg when I use it. It seems to have made my normal kratom not work well but too early to tell. Hope some others chime in. And best of luck with your shoulder mate.

[Kelleytoons]

Thanks - my surgery is on 4/22 (got my CT blueprint scan today, the "map" for putting the stuff in my shoulder).

Omega does testing AND publishes those tests of what's in their stuff, so I trust them (and I think Mr. B does as well). One thing that occurs to me (and, again, I think Mr. B is ahead of the curve on this) is to use a TINY bit of the 7oh powder with your kratom. He uses a micro scale and thus can control things very well. I also have such a scale, but I would need to grind up one of the tablets, which I think I might try. Also, I take my kratom in capsules so that complicates things slightly.

But - bear with me a moment - if someone IS concerned about 7oh taking them over (or such) they could always taper off by using smaller and smaller doses. It's a better deal than trying to cut tablets because there is only so much you can cut and controlling the cuts is hard (I have a great pill cutter, and I do use it to cut the tablets into quarters, but beyond that would be VERY tough). I'm thinking of trying this approach because taking some kratom with my 7oh seems the perfect formula but I don't need much - maybe only 1mg. I'm going to experiment and see if I can just put this much into a (mostly) full kratom capsule.

[oftheshire]

Keep us posted. I’m playing it safe and tapering off. But I did read someone on Reddit talking about how you can use small amounts, down to 1 mg and have great results, and that’s without normal powder. So I think getting it down sub 5 mg would be the best bet. In terms of it being hard to cut below 1/4 a pill, I would just cut them into 1/4s and then take one of the 1/4s and crush it, roughly split into 2 little piles. Or yeah weigh the full tablet, then crush it to powder and divide accordingly.

[BallzDeep9]

News Flash, the 7OH business is booming... So many NEW products, just like kratom - Retail "brand" products, Big Profit for the Retailer stores... And just like kratom 2 years ago, the stores, Vape shops, Head shops, and Gas Stations - selling 7OH for rip-off prices and it seems, people are too stupid to google or figure out, they're getting hosed!! over-paying 2X, 3X, for the same thing. Sure some of these are "street people" with phones (everybody's got a stupid phone in 2025,) but unable to wait a week for Shipping? or afford more than $20 or whatever.

But I'm getting a sense that, things are FINALLY starting to "settle down" with the Big Money Kratom Industry, ... coming to grips with the FACT that a MAJORITY of Kratom users, are slowly moving/ or have moved completely // over to 7OH products - And, after TWO YEARS of people consuming HUGE amounts of 7-OH... nobody has died... It's got the SAME properties as "Plain Leaf" kratom. Why ?? Because it's made FROM kratom, obviously - and so there's no Respiratory Depression and that means --> ALL of the folks who took HUGE amounts of kratom, as alternative to their Fentanyl addiction --> Have found a product that actually works! And they are NOT overdosing on Fent, and NOT choking down 50 grams of Raw dirt powder!!

So Today I did the Johns Hopkins Research Study ... The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine is looking for US adults who have used kratom-derived 7-hydroxymitragynine (7OH, 7-hyroxy, 7) products to share their experiences by participating in a research study. This research study involves completing an online survey about 7OH products.

Copy Paste from Reddit: To learn more and access the screening questionnaire, please click here:

https://jh.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_eyabG87kMriPrVk

[BallzDeep9]

Had to Research - my own History, the Johns Hopkins Survey wants to know, all about YOUR consuming of 7OH. I'm trying to be honest & a Search through my Email - revealed "almost" 1 Year ago. It was like April of last year, when I got curious and sampled a head-shop 7OH tab, 7OHMZ, and shortly after that, ordered from "Online Retail" shop PureLeafKratom - the EDP tabs and shots. And I'll never forget downing 1/2 Shot, just ½ bottle EDP - and thinking WOW, feels like an Oxy!!!

Flash Forward to present - I've been a Kid in the Candy Store - sampled a bunch of Retail tabs. And I've since, quite a few Online products (Omega Extrax, TOP, Wonderland, ANA and Kratom Heads)... the Johns Hopkins Study asks about which products consumed... So I'm right around 9mg / that's ½ standard 7Oh Tablet - per day, although I've had many Quarter Tab days, and also, tried "Up To" 20mg per day... For example, last week had to move some heavy furniture & stuff, a Storage Unit for a friend and it was... Hours of heavy Labor!! We both took "a double" dose 7Oh and, by afternoon... were laughing at how easy the Labor had gone, and how damn GREAT we both felt, lol.

I've experimented with the powder - Omega Extrax' now offers THREE diff 7Oh powders & I have the "Full Spectrum" Star Cluster, which has like 56% 7Oh and (Do the Math, use a Scale) I use the little tiny scoop which weighs out to like 6mg total... Did that scoop along with a Quarter Tab, and had 1g regular Kratom. That's my usual consumption, 1gram Kratom +6 to 10mg 7Oh.

Another advantage ?? I always take my 7Oh sublingual - So I bypass the stomach, Gut and digestive system, for the most part - I'm trying to spare my bladder & guts the constant dealing with loads of kratom powder... It seems to be helping. Have noticed positive change in bowel habits.

[oftheshire]

Had to Research - my own History, the Johns Hopkins Survey wants to know, all about YOUR consuming of 7OH. I'm trying to be honest & a Search through my Email - revealed "almost" 1 Year ago. It was like April of last year, when I got curious and sampled a head-shop 7OH tab, 7OHMZ, and shortly after that, ordered from "Online Retail" shop PureLeafKratom - the EDP tabs and shots. And I'll never forget downing 1/2 Shot, just ½ bottle EDP - and thinking WOW, feels like an Oxy!!!

Flash Forward to present - I've been a Kid in the Candy Store - sampled a bunch of Retail tabs. And I've since, quite a few Online products (Omega Extrax, TOP, Wonderland, ANA and Kratom Heads)... the Johns Hopkins Study asks about which products consumed... So I'm right around 9mg / that's ½ standard 7Oh Tablet - per day, although I've had many Quarter Tab days, and also, tried "Up To" 20mg per day... For example, last week had to move some heavy furniture & stuff, a Storage Unit for a friend and it was... Hours of heavy Labor!! We both took "a double" dose 7Oh and, by afternoon... were laughing at how easy the Labor had gone, and how damn GREAT we both felt, lol.

I've experimented with the powder - Omega Extrax' now offers THREE diff 7Oh powders & I have the "Full Spectrum" Star Cluster, which has like 56% 7Oh and (Do the Math, use a Scale) I use the little tiny scoop which weighs out to like 6mg total... Did that scoop along with a Quarter Tab, and had 1g regular Kratom. That's my usual consumption, 1gram Kratom +6 to 10mg 7Oh.

Another advantage ?? I always take my 7Oh sublingual - So I bypass the stomach, Gut and digestive system, for the most part - I'm trying to spare my bladder & guts the constant dealing with loads of kratom powder... It seems to be helping. Have noticed positive change in bowel habits.

For the bowel habits, are you going more or what? Also, have you taken any multi day breaks to test your bodies reliance on 7oh? I think that would be a good thing to test since there’s not many w/d reports from people who aren’t taking insane amounts (hundred mg a day).

[anonk]

Had to Research - my own History, the Johns Hopkins Survey wants to know, all about YOUR consuming of 7OH. I'm trying to be honest & a Search through my Email - revealed "almost" 1 Year ago. It was like April of last year, when I got curious and sampled a head-shop 7OH tab, 7OHMZ, and shortly after that, ordered from "Online Retail" shop PureLeafKratom - the EDP tabs and shots. And I'll never forget downing 1/2 Shot, just ½ bottle EDP - and thinking WOW, feels like an Oxy!!!

Flash Forward to present - I've been a Kid in the Candy Store - sampled a bunch of Retail tabs. And I've since, quite a few Online products (Omega Extrax, TOP, Wonderland, ANA and Kratom Heads)... the Johns Hopkins Study asks about which products consumed... So I'm right around 9mg / that's ½ standard 7Oh Tablet - per day, although I've had many Quarter Tab days, and also, tried "Up To" 20mg per day... For example, last week had to move some heavy furniture & stuff, a Storage Unit for a friend and it was... Hours of heavy Labor!! We both took "a double" dose 7Oh and, by afternoon... were laughing at how easy the Labor had gone, and how damn GREAT we both felt, lol.

I've experimented with the powder - Omega Extrax' now offers THREE diff 7Oh powders & I have the "Full Spectrum" Star Cluster, which has like 56% 7Oh and (Do the Math, use a Scale) I use the little tiny scoop which weighs out to like 6mg total... Did that scoop along with a Quarter Tab, and had 1g regular Kratom. That's my usual consumption, 1gram Kratom +6 to 10mg 7Oh.

Another advantage ?? I always take my 7Oh sublingual - So I bypass the stomach, Gut and digestive system, for the most part - I'm trying to spare my bladder & guts the constant dealing with loads of kratom powder... It seems to be helping. Have noticed positive change in bowel habits.

I remember you calling me a "doper" a few years ago for using DGBotanicals because it's "strong leaf" and "must be laced with extract". Look who's the doper now You're not utilizing kratom right if your chocking down massive amounts of powder, 2g - 3g is all most people really need.

[terposton]

I've been a kratom user for 10 years but I've been trying out the 7oh things lately. I'm not a fan of the omegaextrax.com. It took a while to get my order and I paid for faster shipping but I just don't care about how they make me feel. They just make me feel tired. My favorite is from https://7ohmz.com, I quarter them and drop of quarter of a tab into my blate pape with my powder. You don't need a pill splitter and they aren't flavored. They make you feel good without feeling like you want to take a nap. I also tried some from katom distro I think is the name but didn't care for them either. I like just kratom power on it's own the best but every now and then for a treat the ones I've gotten from https://7ohmz.com are my favorite by far. I've also take a whole pill if I'm out and can't get to my powder for many hours. They aren't too strong and don't feel like you've taken a narcotic at all. Pain pills have never been something I care for and only started taking kratom 10 years ago, for depression and low energy. So if you want to try them, do so but please use them sparingly.