The Ukraine Situation

[iamlurkerpro]

It's just a smoke screen for russia to use old weapons and then be able to build new ones. For the US its the military industrial groups who need constant war to sell their weapons. I really think thats the only reason there is conflict there. Those in the US know after afgan/iraq the american people would not be for a war unless a 9/11 type attack. After 20 straight years of war those making weapons needed something to sell their weapons to and ukraine was it. Russia is benefiting hugely because after this "conflict" they will replenish their weapons,same with US suppliers of death. Neither make money with dust collecting on the death machines they make.

[brave777]

It's just a smoke screen for russia to use old weapons and then be able to build new ones. For the US its the military industrial groups who need constant war to sell their weapons. I really think thats the only reason there is conflict there. Those in the US know after afgan/iraq the american people would not be for a war unless a 9/11 type attack. After 20 straight years of war those making weapons needed something to sell their weapons to and ukraine was it. Russia is benefiting hugely because after this "conflict" they will replenish their weapons,same with US suppliers of death. Neither make money with dust collecting on the death machines they make.

Seriously , all people i talked too Ukranian or Russian are the most friendly people and think same. we all know its the big guns hurting people just cause they can. with tons odd prapaganda to back up, i believe we ave reached the point when even regular joe see the same.I believe we need to call out all ass holes that support this war, be it on the forum or real life. I just had a friend who left to ukrain because he thought life was easy there. He said there was nothing to pay and and everything close by, here you pay for everything to live, or to even have someone give you a lift, you need that $10 bucks. Now he came back after war reached his home where he stayed.

[CatfatherB]

President Zelensky announced there would be no elections in Ukraine until the war is completed. Looks like DEMOCRACY is working out very well.

[iamlurkerpro]

President Zelensky announced there would be no elections in Ukraine until the war is completed. Looks like DEMOCRACY is working out very well.

Well seeing as how russia is committing serious war crimes,killing unarmed children,people at malls,people at home (did I mention children at playgrounds and school)its understandable. Zelensky has no challenger,I doubt anyone would even try except a wannabe russian puppet. The people LOVE him,like most all of them, seriously love him. The world looks at him with amazement by his courage and his people know it. I know a small % of people in the US have the same view as those in russia,but not many.

[herbalhippie]

President Zelensky announced there would be no elections in Ukraine until the war is completed. Looks like DEMOCRACY is working out very well.

It's perhaps not the best time to be holding elections in Ukraine.

[mivanqua]

President Zelensky announced there would be no elections in Ukraine until the war is completed. Looks like DEMOCRACY is working out very well.

It's perhaps not the best time to be holding elections in Ukraine.

Hippie, I know you aren't a conspiracy type, but one thing about COVID is very strange and CAN'T be an accident. Check it out.

The two NAMED COVID strains were Delta and Omicron, right?
Well, an anagram for Delta and Omicron is "media control." Strange, right?

I say this because I urge you to pay as little attention to the news as possible. It's all just manipulation. Every word. This song is spot on and reminds me of pouring concrete in the rain.

https://youtu.be/1rmAi9XmlIo

Morrissey is right here. The news is meant to make you feel small and alone.

[FartBlaster]

The mercenary group that supposedly turned against Russia was just a ruse to move 25,000+ soldiers into Belarus to join the 30,000 Russian soldiers already there to get ready for an assault on Kiev.

[CatfatherB]

https://youtu.be/-ONC5N_hQcc?si=lOheVCxB9SLeHLlJ

[IndelibleDotInk]

Amazing how long this conflict has been going on - last post was from Sept 2023, this thread started in 2022.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDZLbT3_bvk Hidden US bio labs both in Ukraine and here, at home, the number of which the politicians don't know!

And in the Middle East, what kind of resolution can there be when Hamas' very purpose is the destruction of Israel? Death all around...sad.

[StringThing]

Oh dear...

that meeting was not good

[herbalhippie]

No. Not at all. Very upsetting.

And infuriating.

[MetalMamaRocks]

And embarrassing.

[StringThing]

I keep seeing people that say Ukraine should make concessions. That a deal, a mutual agreement, is needed in order to achieve peace.

I don't understand what concessions Russia is making in this proposed mineral deal.

Ukraine would lose mineral rights for generations, not have any security guarantees, AND they would lose territory?

What does Russia give up? The momentary justification to wage war that they will ignore eventually anyway in the name of their ethnocentric 'Moscow, The Third Rome' philosophy?

If Putin was President of the United States, I honestly don't know what he would be doing differently from what Trump is doing.

[herbalhippie]

I keep seeing people that say Ukraine should make concessions. That a deal, a mutual agreement, is needed in order to achieve peace.

I don't understand what concessions Russia is making in this proposed mineral deal.

Ukraine would lose mineral rights for generations, not have any security guarantees, AND they would lose territory?

What does Russia give up? The momentary justification to wage war that they will ignore eventually anyway in the name of their ethnocentric 'Moscow, The Third Rome' philosophy?

If Putin was President of the United States, I honestly don't know what he would be doing differently from what Trump is doing.

Yep, you got it.

[boureka]

I keep seeing people that say Ukraine should make concessions. That a deal, a mutual agreement, is needed in order to achieve peace.

I don't understand what concessions Russia is making in this proposed mineral deal.

Ukraine would lose mineral rights for generations, not have any security guarantees, AND they would lose territory?

What does Russia give up? The momentary justification to wage war that they will ignore eventually anyway in the name of their ethnocentric 'Moscow, The Third Rome' philosophy?

If Putin was President of the United States, I honestly don't know what he would be doing differently from what Trump is doing.

Yep, you got it.

It's vomitous! In the 60's in our classrooms we had drills where we hid under our desks in case of a Russian nuclear attack. (Who knew our desks were such bulwarks against bombs ) Now our voting partners are Russia, N. Korea, and Iran and we flip our finger at the EU? It's...yup..surreal.

[MetalMamaRocks]

It's like we're living in the Upside Down! (a Stranger Things reference for those not familiar with the show)

It's so sad!

[herbalhippie]

I keep seeing people that say Ukraine should make concessions. That a deal, a mutual agreement, is needed in order to achieve peace.

I don't understand what concessions Russia is making in this proposed mineral deal.

Ukraine would lose mineral rights for generations, not have any security guarantees, AND they would lose territory?

What does Russia give up? The momentary justification to wage war that they will ignore eventually anyway in the name of their ethnocentric 'Moscow, The Third Rome' philosophy?

If Putin was President of the United States, I honestly don't know what he would be doing differently from what Trump is doing.

Yep, you got it.

It's vomitous! In the 60's in our classrooms we had drills where we hid under our desks in case of a Russian nuclear attack. (Who knew our desks were such bulwarks against bombs ) Now our voting partners are Russia, N. Korea, and Iran and we flip our finger at the EU? It's...yup..surreal.

It IS surreal! And it happened SO FAST! Well, if you were paying attention you could see it coming, but still...

I feel like I'm in a nightmare that just won't end.

[IndelibleDotInk]

Ukraine pres was a former actor who acted in a Ukrainian show about an actor becoming president.... insanity!

Rumor is he asked 3 times unofficially to get an invite to the Grammys... nutso.

[StringThing]

Ukraine pres was a former actor who acted in a Ukrainian show about an actor becoming president.... insanity!

Rumor is he asked 3 times unofficially to get an invite to the Grammys... nutso.

I watched his show, it was a great show. You can really see his sense of ethics and morals in it, as well as his knowledge of history and philosophy. It's no wonder that his TV show helped popularize him enough to win the election.

I wish the USA had a president who cared as much about their country as Zelensky does.

Actually, I wish the USA had a president that cared about this country at all.

[StringThing]

Yep, you got it.

It's vomitous! In the 60's in our classrooms we had drills where we hid under our desks in case of a Russian nuclear attack. (Who knew our desks were such bulwarks against bombs ) Now our voting partners are Russia, N. Korea, and Iran and we flip our finger at the EU? It's...yup..surreal.

It IS surreal! And it happened SO FAST! Well, if you were paying attention you could see it coming, but still...

I feel like I'm in a nightmare that just won't end.

It's terrifying honestly. QAnon has taken over the US government. A literal cult that has been propagated by Russian disinformation.

[IndelibleDotInk]

Near the beginning of this month, August, conservative (she doesn't consider herself 'left' or 'right' anymore) reporter Candace Owens received a personal call from Pres Trump asking her to suspend her public reporting and investigation on the very researched peculiarities of the French first couple, saying the French were hindering progress of Ukraine and Russia and would do so until Owens ceased her cause, which she did temporarily.

I think this subject deserves more scrutiny, both of the French government, and also more options to stop the bloodshed btwn Russia and the Ukraine.

Let it be known that Owens presents the idea, with proof and hard opposition of the French government, that the First Lady was actually born a man (denied by Mrs. Macron and the gov.) and that their relationship started when Mr. Macron was a minor and she was a teacher of his (fact, or at least not refuted by the couple; there are varying dates and ages told to the public). Strange, also, that in the President's official portrait, a book promoting pedophilia/pederasty is painted on his desk.

Anyway, just saying this situation hinders world events and watching Owens' ongoing series on Rumble has been enlightening and interesting. Also, if you did not see it, several weeks ago, the media caught a picture of President Macron being slapped by his wife as the door to his plane opened for the couple to descend. Wonder what he said to her. Hope the French recover from this, and hope there are less pedophiles among the many who seem to be in charge in the world and promote war or conflict to move money and weapons and sex and power and religion.

[CatfatherB]

It's vomitous! In the 60's in our classrooms we had drills where we hid under our desks in case of a Russian nuclear attack. (Who knew our desks were such bulwarks against bombs ) Now our voting partners are Russia, N. Korea, and Iran and we flip our finger at the EU? It's...yup..surreal.

It IS surreal! And it happened SO FAST! Well, if you were paying attention you could see it coming, but still...

I feel like I'm in a nightmare that just won't end.

It's terrifying honestly. QAnon has taken over the US government. A literal cult that has been propagated by Russian disinformation.

Not QAnon but Q aka DJT.
QAnon was propagated into the MAGA movement using agents such as Alex Jones, Michael Flynn, Roger Stone, Juan O Savin, Patrick Byrnn......I could go on and on with them for days. But that's where most of the outlandish accusations associated with "QAnon" came from. Controlled Opposition. The "Russian Disinformation " came directly from the Obama administration.

[IndelibleDotInk]

Both sides are in on it... you know the career politicians, bankers/businessmen, Hollywood, music industry, real estate moguls, all those people with power all travel in the same circles even if a few of them are not with the warmongering/restructuring the government to suit themselves, the majority were all at those parties, all have blackmail material against them.

It's so crazy, I think Candace has the most interesting info on her platform, not that she can't be wrong, but she tries and often succeeds, and has a really honest heart with just a bit of sensationalism to keep us hanging, lol. She's right about it not being right/left, it's issue by issue... hope love will save us all, every last one of us, lol.