Kanna flower extract from lift mode

[Trippyhippydippy]

Guys this is an amazing antidepressant better than ssri just dont take it with ssri or maoi as well as welbutrin. Basically any antidepressant. It sends you into a nice blanket of ecstasy def start with a third of the provided scooper. Do some research on reddit and other places but its amazing.

[IndelibleDotInk]

I would be interested in more about this. Thanks for warning about interactions with antidepressants.

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Guys this is an amazing antidepressant better than ssri just dont take it with ssri or maoi like welbutrin. It sends you into a nice blanket of ecstasy def start with a third of the provided scooper. Do some research on reddit and other places but its amazing.

fyi, wellbutrin is neither an SSRI nor an MAOI

[Trippyhippydippy]

Guys this is an amazing antidepressant better than ssri just dont take it with ssri or maoi like welbutrin. It sends you into a nice blanket of ecstasy def start with a third of the provided scooper. Do some research on reddit and other places but its amazing.

fyi, wellbutrin is neither an SSRI nor an MAOI

Good catch i was ever only on ssri's but my doctor basically told me about those three and never to mix with drugs or herbs like st johns wort or ecstasy. Pretty sure it should also be avoided tho any ssri maoi or welburtin

Monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs) are also used to treat depression. Anyone who is taking a MAOI should avoid Wellbutrin.

Bupropion, or Wellbutrin, is different. It is a norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor (NDRI). An NDRI boosts levels of the neurotransmitters norepinephrine, also known as noradrenaline, and dopamine.



Basically all three can cause serotonin syndrome which is why most drugs shouldn't be taken when on them.

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Really if your on prescription pharmaceuticals you shouldn't be taking any other substances without checking with your doctor. I luckily quit my ssri after 4 months and eventually found kratom and the gym i feel better than i ever have before 2015.


Also i only ever have taken the kanna on a Friday night as a recreational fun. I noticed tho i felt like surprisingly good for the next few days.

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ok, a few things about that:

wellbutrin is commonly used alongside a SSRI to supplement it. sometimes the SSRI (prozac, zoloft, etc) isn't enough on its own, and wellbutrin is a good add on. mainly for people who suffer from major depression and not anxiety, as wellbutrin has a stimulantlike effect that can contribute to anxiety.

I take kratom with my effexor (SNRI) with great results. SSRIs aren't for everybody, but they are very for helpful for some. kratom is not a replacement for an antidepressant.

MAOIs are rarely used these days. there are many medications and foods you must avoid when on them. for example, you can't have cheese, beer, chocolate, to name just a few. and there are many, many meds/substances that are also contraindicated. that's why they are hardly ever prescribed these days, usually only in the case of treatment resistant depression, and even then, there are other better options.


with all that said, yes, if you want to try Kanna and are on any of these meds, do some research and make sure you're not doing anything unsafe. you absolutely shouldn't take it with any SSRI or SNRI.

[Trippyhippydippy]

ok, a few things about that:

wellbutrin is commonly used alongside a SSRI to supplement it. sometimes the SSRI (prozac, zoloft, etc) isn't enough on its own, and wellbutrin is a good add on. mainly for people who suffer from major depression and not anxiety, as wellbutrin has a stimulantlike effect that can contribute to anxiety.

I take kratom with my effexor (SNRI) with great results. SSRIs aren't for everybody, but they are very for helpful for some. kratom is not a replacement for an antidepressant.

MAOIs are rarely used these days. there are many medications and foods you must avoid when on them. for example, you can't have cheese, beer, chocolate, to name just a few. and there are many, many meds/substances that are also contraindicated. that's why they are hardly ever prescribed these days, usually only in the case of treatment resistant depression, and even then, there are other better options.


with all that said, yes, if you want to try Kanna and are on any of these meds, do some research and make sure you're not doing anything unsafe. you absolutely shouldn't take it with any SSRI or SNRI.

Yeah basically if your on those three or any prescriptions drugs don't randomly take herbs or drugs. Thats all i was saying. Also kratom was a replacement for my antidepressant, also quitting drugs i took recreationally for depression ....... so its a good alternative ive graduated with my 2nd 4 year degree workout every day changed my life since kratom.

Might not be a good replacement for you but it saved me from going to the doctor since 2015.

[Trippyhippydippy]

FYI Lift mode extract is the only kanna that worked for me and it has to be Insufflated. I ordered a bunch of etsy that didnt do anything.

[Trippyhippydippy]

I would be interested in more about this. Thanks for warning about interactions with antidepressants.

FYI Lift mode extract is the only kanna that worked for me and it has to be Insufflated. I ordered a bunch of etsy that didnt do anything.

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Yeah basically if your on those three or any prescriptions drugs don't randomly take herbs or drugs. Thats all i was saying. Also kratom was a replacement for my antidepressant, also quitting drugs i took recreationally for depression ....... so its a good alternative ive graduated with my 2nd 4 year degree workout every day changed my life since kratom.

Might not be a good replacement for you but it saved me from going to the doctor since 2015.

really you shouldn't be randomly taking herbs or drugs randomly no matter what the case is. you should always do your due diligence ahead of time and research potential interactions and contraindications.

kratom sounds like it works well for you, that's great. but it should not be suggested as a replacement for an antidepressant. some people really need them, and reading advice like that can make someone think they can quit, and then they experience some withdrawal, rebound depression, or worse- suicidal ideation/an attempt. judging by your first statement, you're not the most responsible person when it comes to drugs, so it's probably best for you not to make those sorts of claims.

you should also look into harm reduction if you're going to be using drugs/supplements. here's a helpful link:
https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Responsible_drug_use

[Trippyhippydippy]

Yeah basically if your on those three or any prescriptions drugs don't randomly take herbs or drugs. Thats all i was saying. Also kratom was a replacement for my antidepressant, also quitting drugs i took recreationally for depression ....... so its a good alternative ive graduated with my 2nd 4 year degree workout every day changed my life since kratom.

Might not be a good replacement for you but it saved me from going to the doctor since 2015.

really you shouldn't be randomly taking herbs or drugs randomly no matter what the case is. you should always do your due diligence ahead of time and research potential interactions and contraindications.

kratom sounds like it works well for you, that's great. but it should not be suggested as a replacement for an antidepressant. some people really need them, and reading advice like that can make someone think they can quit, and then they experience some withdrawal, rebound depression, or worse- suicidal ideation/an attempt. judging by your first statement, you're not the most responsible person when it comes to drugs, so it's probably best for you not to make those sorts of claims.

you should also look into harm reduction if you're going to be using drugs/supplements. here's a helpful link:
https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Responsible_drug_use

I literally said do some research in the first post.... I said dont take it with antidepressants.

Kratom doesn't even have tons of research. I also said kratom helped me get off anit depressants. I said it worked for me and might not for you right on the post. Really its one vice for another anyway, but i prefer a leaf i think antidepressants are much worse.

For the record i did have to taper my ssri....... its part of the process of talking with your doctor. My doctor encouraged my attempt to change my life and get off antidepressants.

Lots of people get off antidepressants they change their lifestyle, nutrition, vitamins, set goals, and get in the gym. Kratom helped me do all of those things and reach my goals. You have to take breaks as well and reset. I think a good portion of people are depressed by simple nutrition and endorphin deficiencies. Microdosing is legit for depression, ptsd etc....

***PS i love the part where you say im not responsible when taking drugs/ herbs. Although i made the warning on the post, which i got thanked for mentioning by another member.

Considering you dont know me and i dont know you...................................................Hows your nutrition and physical health? I can help you feel better probably.

[Cuttlefish]

My experience with lift mode kanna is it ultimately wasn’t worth my time. Jealous of the people who experience the good feelings from it, mine become panic attack like every time.

Smoking it on weed is the best thing I’ve gotten from it, but I worry that some weird chemical reaction happens, it makes me super sleepy often, where insulation leads to too extreme stimulation. The only time it’s been relatively okay is mixing it with alcohol, but that’s just me. But that’s the opposite of what I need to be doing, drinking and snorting Internet powders.

I’ve tried it in varying doses, always the lift mode stuff.

Kanna and kava are not for me, phenibut is too addictive, kratom is the perfect middle group for me.

If anything, I feel better after ive came down off kanna, I think it may help like that. If I’m really down and can suffer through a few hours of kanna panic I’ll end up feeling better

[Trippyhippydippy]

My experience with lift mode kanna is it ultimately wasn’t worth my time. Jealous of the people who experience the good feelings from it, mine become panic attack like every time.

Smoking it on weed is the best thing I’ve gotten from it, but I worry that some weird chemical reaction happens, it makes me super sleepy often, where insulation leads to too extreme stimulation. The only time it’s been relatively okay is mixing it with alcohol, but that’s just me. But that’s the opposite of what I need to be doing, drinking and snorting Internet powders.

I’ve tried it in varying doses, always the lift mode stuff.

Kanna and kava are not for me, phenibut is too addictive, kratom is the perfect middle group for me.

If anything, I feel better after ive came down off kanna, I think it may help like that. If I’m really down and can suffer through a few hours of kanna panic I’ll end up feeling better

I could see this my one friend insufflated the full scooper def had what your talking about but for me its been pure bliss i only do 1/3 the scooper then 1/3 in about 20 minutes. ive only dont it probably 5 times in total i check every plant out but not research chemicals. Just plant msterial or extracts