My 26 yr old son got the J&J vaccine 2 weeks ago. I'm not too worried as of yet, only 6 people out of 6.8 million have had the blood clot issue. Have to wait and see what develops.herbalhippie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:54 am U.S. Calls for Pause on Johnson & Johnson Vaccine After Rare Clotting Cases
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/p ... a-cdc.html
I had decided that if I was going to get a vaccine it was going to be J&J, and then I changed my mind and got Pfizer.
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I also wanted Johnson and Johnson in a perfect world where we could choose. One shot versus two is very attractive (J&J is only one). Supplies didn’t work that well, so we get what they have. I got Moderna. I’m so grateful I got hooked up early since I am in a 4 person germ circle including a 91 year old and a 79 year old. My mom (the 79 year old) has not been to a store in over a year because our family has social anxiety issues. So the last year was not as difficult for us. I forever grateful that we got them vaccinated almost immediately.
NOW we wait to see what happens with the mutations and the unknown length of time and effectiveness of these vaccines.
The anti-vaxxers will be helping speed up that information and I am concerned about what that will look like. It’s out of my hands.
I respect the desire to not be vaccinated for babies and children!. But older adults have no reasonable basis for not getting it EXCEPT they think we are all going to drop dead any minute now from the “poisonous” vaccines. I’d rather drop dead from a vaccine, instantly, than be UNABLE TO BREATHE and NOBODY CAN HELP before finally dying of unnecessary covid 19 infections.
Did I miss the post about the status of the Cheesecake Factory?
What’s it like to be at work NOW, metalmamarocks?
Nice to see new usernames (new to me) posting here. I’m hit and miss with posting here due to Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD). Now that the earth is not so far from the sun, I can probably live like others until next January (except for cold days or rainy days or even dense fog). Global warming has extended the months of which I am not so debilitated by SAD. And kratom absolutely helps. Last December was the first year where I could be productive and even attend small family holiday activities (the 4 of us in my germ circle)! It was a miracle to not be in bed with a virus of some sort (my depression can create physical illness). Next year, maybe I’ll be able to decorate a little bit! Lofty dreams. I’m careful to be thankful and filled with gratitude EVERY DAY. But if you notice my disappearance and reappearances, that’s why. Kratom doesn’t SOLVE my health issues, but having such a wonderful tool REALLY HELPS and I’m dedicating most waking hours to making sure anyone who is interested, can find the information they need to feel comfortable in trying it. Y’all do that here as well! Plus having families and full time jobs n stuff...I do a LOT of volunteer work and a tiny bit of monetary earning with my little pet sitting jobs. I started doing that for relief from depression also and it is not a big money maker but it really does help get me moving more and feeling better. Animals are the biggest miracle !
Long chat aside, welcome to all of you, if you’re new here. Hello to IndelibleDotInk for always having my back and a smile!
Adorable45Deplorable, good form admitting your stance on vaccines. I don’t intend to judge or criticize. I do that to my SELF plenty! Herbalhippie, you’ve been through so much. Hope you’re feeling better! What a year! Greyfeather, thanks for the smile you sent recently. Much appreciated!
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NOW we wait to see what happens with the mutations and the unknown length of time and effectiveness of these vaccines.
The anti-vaxxers will be helping speed up that information and I am concerned about what that will look like. It’s out of my hands.
I respect the desire to not be vaccinated for babies and children!. But older adults have no reasonable basis for not getting it EXCEPT they think we are all going to drop dead any minute now from the “poisonous” vaccines. I’d rather drop dead from a vaccine, instantly, than be UNABLE TO BREATHE and NOBODY CAN HELP before finally dying of unnecessary covid 19 infections.
Did I miss the post about the status of the Cheesecake Factory?
What’s it like to be at work NOW, metalmamarocks?
Nice to see new usernames (new to me) posting here. I’m hit and miss with posting here due to Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD). Now that the earth is not so far from the sun, I can probably live like others until next January (except for cold days or rainy days or even dense fog). Global warming has extended the months of which I am not so debilitated by SAD. And kratom absolutely helps. Last December was the first year where I could be productive and even attend small family holiday activities (the 4 of us in my germ circle)! It was a miracle to not be in bed with a virus of some sort (my depression can create physical illness). Next year, maybe I’ll be able to decorate a little bit! Lofty dreams. I’m careful to be thankful and filled with gratitude EVERY DAY. But if you notice my disappearance and reappearances, that’s why. Kratom doesn’t SOLVE my health issues, but having such a wonderful tool REALLY HELPS and I’m dedicating most waking hours to making sure anyone who is interested, can find the information they need to feel comfortable in trying it. Y’all do that here as well! Plus having families and full time jobs n stuff...I do a LOT of volunteer work and a tiny bit of monetary earning with my little pet sitting jobs. I started doing that for relief from depression also and it is not a big money maker but it really does help get me moving more and feeling better. Animals are the biggest miracle !
Long chat aside, welcome to all of you, if you’re new here. Hello to IndelibleDotInk for always having my back and a smile!
Adorable45Deplorable, good form admitting your stance on vaccines. I don’t intend to judge or criticize. I do that to my SELF plenty! Herbalhippie, you’ve been through so much. Hope you’re feeling better! What a year! Greyfeather, thanks for the smile you sent recently. Much appreciated!
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DMX had tested positive with Covid when he was hospitalized. I was surprised this detail disappeared in the narrative.Adorable45Deplorable wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:23 pm Who here also things its hella coincidental DMX died just one week after receiving the vaccine?
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Covid Madness: People Fleeing a Volcanic Eruption Can’t Board the Rescue Vessels Until Vaccinated.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-10/ ... /100060486
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"Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves said in a press conference that people had to be vaccinated if they went aboard a cruise ship or were granted temporary refuge on another island. [...] Mr Gonsalves added that he highly recommended those who opted to go to a shelter in St Vincent and the Grenadines, an island chain of more than 100,000 people, be vaccinated against COVID."Adorable45Deplorable wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:09 am Covid Madness: People Fleeing a Volcanic Eruption Can’t Board the Rescue Vessels Until Vaccinated.
(04.10.21)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-10/ ... /100060486
I might be missing something but that... doesn't sound like "you can't flee a volcanic eruption without being vaccinated" to me.
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Getting the second Moderna shot tonight! Since last year, I've lost my sense of taste twice, neither being covid-related. Hope I don't have any side effects from the vaccine except for great burns!
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Good luck - gonna be great to be fully vaccinated. Pfizer #2 for me tomorrow! First one was no prob, though I hear the mojo is in the second shot!!IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:17 pm Getting the second Moderna shot tonight! Since last year, I've lost my sense of taste twice, neither being covid-related. Hope I don't have any side effects from the vaccine except for great burns!
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My second shot is due 4/30. Not looking forward to it after having an anaphylactic shock reaction to eating a banana Sunday, nine days after my first shot. Hell of a coincidence. I've never had any food allergies and never an anaphylactic reaction to anything before.
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Hippie, several years ago I suddenly developed an allergy to bananas too. It was totally out of the blue. My tongue swells and my throat gets itchy if I eat one.herbalhippie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:07 am My second shot is due 4/30. Not looking forward to it after having an anaphylactic shock reaction to eating a banana Sunday, nine days after my first shot. Hell of a coincidence. I've never had any food allergies and never an anaphylactic reaction to anything before.
As for the 2nd Pfizer shot, it made my blood pressure go dangerously high. 2 days after I received it I wound up in the emergency room. Could've been a coincidence, who knows, but my doctor also said the 2nd shot gave her tachycardia for a few days. Just some things to watch out for.
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herbalhippie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:07 am My second shot is due 4/30. Not looking forward to it after having an anaphylactic shock reaction to eating a banana Sunday, nine days after my first shot. Hell of a coincidence. I've never had any food allergies and never an anaphylactic reaction to anything before.
This is really bizarre AND scary AF. Also not something anyone would be looking for while you were waiting 30 minutes during the post-vaccination. The vaccine is affecting women's menstrual cycles, the outcomes of mammograms and diagnoses involving the lymph glands (so if you have scheduled mammograms, ladies, and your vaccine appt. is in that same two weeks maybe cancel one of them).
Stay Safe and.... damn, keep your cell phone (911) nearby.
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Got my second Moderna last night; today injection area is very tender, which usually happens after you get poked and liquid forced into your muscle, but my shoulder sockets on both arms are achy. Slept in very late, but that isn't unusual.
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Greyfeather wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:01 pmherbalhippie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:07 am My second shot is due 4/30. Not looking forward to it after having an anaphylactic shock reaction to eating a banana Sunday, nine days after my first shot. Hell of a coincidence. I've never had any food allergies and never an anaphylactic reaction to anything before.
This is really bizarre AND scary AF. Also not something anyone would be looking for while you were waiting 30 minutes during the post-vaccination. The vaccine is affecting women's menstrual cycles, the outcomes of mammograms and diagnoses involving the lymph glands (so if you have scheduled mammograms, ladies, and your vaccine appt. is in that same two weeks maybe cancel one of them).
Stay Safe and.... damn, keep your cell phone (911) nearby.
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IF I get my second shot, I will be waiting an hour, not 15 or 30 minutes. I'll just ask them to let me pull out of line and go park along the fence near where the medics are.
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Good, glad you're doing well and I hope it continues to be that way!IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:33 pm Got my second Moderna last night; today injection area is very tender, which usually happens after you get poked and liquid forced into your muscle, but my shoulder sockets on both arms are achy. Slept in very late, but that isn't unusual.
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<3!herbalhippie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:46 pmGood, glad you're doing well and I hope it continues to be that way!IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:33 pm Got my second Moderna last night; today injection area is very tender, which usually happens after you get poked and liquid forced into your muscle, but my shoulder sockets on both arms are achy. Slept in very late, but that isn't unusual.
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Achy bones at the joints, took a long nap after dinner, feel a little hot but not feverish. Looking forward to feeling fine tomorrow.
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I am so thankful to have taken the vaccine. My husband had a family member pass away and I spent yesterday at a funeral home packed with people not wearing masks.
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In 2017, the Johns Hopkins Center of Health Security ran a simulation of a coronavirus pandemic known as SPARS. What can we learn from this exercise?
(11.19.20) https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com ... pposition/
(11.19.20) https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com ... pposition/
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Conclusion: Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/
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I wonder why this seems to happen with fruit so frequently! I know so many people who can't eat certain fruits anymore, even jellies or jams in a PB&J. But then again I also have a friend who suddenly became lactose intolerant at 33, and I myself developed an egg allergy sometime in my teens after eating eggs for breakfast all the time. I can't even be in the same room as them now, the smell makes me sick.MetalMamaRocks wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:19 amHippie, several years ago I suddenly developed an allergy to bananas too. It was totally out of the blue. My tongue swells and my throat gets itchy if I eat one.herbalhippie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:07 am My second shot is due 4/30. Not looking forward to it after having an anaphylactic shock reaction to eating a banana Sunday, nine days after my first shot. Hell of a coincidence. I've never had any food allergies and never an anaphylactic reaction to anything before.
But to keep things on topic: I'll be getting my second dose on Friday and I'm looking forward to it... being able to say it's done (until we learn whether or not we'll need third doses and when). I'm still not going to stop wearing my masks though. My husband has anxiety issues and has found that wearing a mask oddly helps him with that, because he doesn't have to see the full range of emotion on people's faces, nor do they have to see his own. Until he explained it to me I never would have thought of other possible benefits besides covid control
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(Cambridge University Press)
"Our review highlights the limited evidence base supporting the efficacy or effectiveness of face masks to reduce influenza virus transmission...In conclusion there remains a substantial gap in the scientific literature on the effectiveness of face masks to reduce transmission of influenza virus infection. "
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... CCC9D8BC05
"Our review highlights the limited evidence base supporting the efficacy or effectiveness of face masks to reduce influenza virus transmission...In conclusion there remains a substantial gap in the scientific literature on the effectiveness of face masks to reduce transmission of influenza virus infection. "
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... CCC9D8BC05
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That study looks like it was from 2010? Here is a more recent article:Adorable45Deplorable wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:16 am (Cambridge University Press)
"Our review highlights the limited evidence base supporting the efficacy or effectiveness of face masks to reduce influenza virus transmission...In conclusion there remains a substantial gap in the scientific literature on the effectiveness of face masks to reduce transmission of influenza virus infection. "
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... CCC9D8BC05
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... -this-year
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India is getting swamped with covid, it's how we feared the US and Europe would be at the beginning of the pandemic, running out of ventilators, oxygen, hospital beds. It's said their night sky is illuminated by funeral pyres burning in the open cause the crematoriums can't keep up. US is shipping vaccine to India asap. We're lucky we avoided what they're going through now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-56901163
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-56901163
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Depending on where you are in the US or Europe, we did not avoid it. We just have less people in the west. Look at early NY and Italy.IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:50 pm India is getting swamped with covid, it's how we feared the US and Europe would be at the beginning of the pandemic, running out of ventilators, oxygen, hospital beds. It's said their night sky is illuminated by funeral pyres burning in the open cause the crematoriums can't keep up. US is shipping vaccine to India asap. We're lucky we avoided what they're going through now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-56901163
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You can stop posting your propaganda here. Your cherry picked articles and evidence cannot match the insurmountable evidence that the pandemic was a real threat. Humans have known masks and isolation have worked at stopping the spread of disease since at least the 1100's. It has been proven to work by science since the 1910's with the Manchurian plague.Adorable45Deplorable wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:16 am (Cambridge University Press)
"Our review highlights the limited evidence base supporting the efficacy or effectiveness of face masks to reduce influenza virus transmission...In conclusion there remains a substantial gap in the scientific literature on the effectiveness of face masks to reduce transmission of influenza virus infection. "
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... CCC9D8BC05
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Although there were tons of cases, I'd say we dodged a bullet - no burning dead bodies in the street, many people listening and wearing masks, quick rollout of vaccines.StringThing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:01 amDepending on where you are in the US or Europe, we did not avoid it. We just have less people in the west. Look at early NY and Italy.IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:50 pm India is getting swamped with covid, it's how we feared the US and Europe would be at the beginning of the pandemic, running out of ventilators, oxygen, hospital beds. It's said their night sky is illuminated by funeral pyres burning in the open cause the crematoriums can't keep up. US is shipping vaccine to India asap. We're lucky we avoided what they're going through now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-56901163
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Hi you guys. I saw this article about a mutation with a name n everything. It’s a variant of concern. I saw a brief mention of it two days ago on Twitter but now it’s being shared globally.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04- ... tance.html
Please stay safe whenever you can.
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04- ... tance.html
Please stay safe whenever you can.
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Hope your whole family is doing FINE in this coronavirus world. I’m not a negative person, but I’ve still got my guard up. I admire your dedication to employment despite everything, metalmamarocks. Your strength and conviction are truly admired. Even though it’s simply necessary to pay the bills.
So many other friends are posting here in this thread. Very reassuring!
I just read a tweet saying Oregon went into lockdown TODAY 04/30/2021 !! Hope it’s untrue.
So many people think it’s all over now while people are still dropping dead in India from exhaustion at trying to treat people as well as from the virus.
Another source said Japan has a problem near Tokyo where nobody over 80 gets a bed or treatment. Hope it’s untrue. They have enough problems with a substantial earthquake earlier today (6.6 or 6.7)
I just saw that your son got the J&J vaccine, @metalmamarocks and it’s very reassuring to know your loved ones are also getting some protection.
My understanding about the vaccines is that we can still get the virus, but not likely to die of the illness. My mom says we are now 99% immune and no longer need masks! Mom is ALWAYS RIGHT whether she is right or not.
I dunno. I think people are either scared of getting the vaccine or scared of government mind control or completely indifferent and think they can start licking stair railings and stuff.
I just hope nobody gets too lazy about hand washing until the mutation named SARS-COV-2-BV-1 can not spread. It is a COVID virus. One person in Texas has it. The patient with this mutated variant is still alive, and the testing and any other lessons about this one patient are being shared globally.
Here’s the information I’ve seen so far on this mutation problem: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04- ... tance.html
Stay safe out there, friends !
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So many other friends are posting here in this thread. Very reassuring!
I just read a tweet saying Oregon went into lockdown TODAY 04/30/2021 !! Hope it’s untrue.
So many people think it’s all over now while people are still dropping dead in India from exhaustion at trying to treat people as well as from the virus.
Another source said Japan has a problem near Tokyo where nobody over 80 gets a bed or treatment. Hope it’s untrue. They have enough problems with a substantial earthquake earlier today (6.6 or 6.7)
I just saw that your son got the J&J vaccine, @metalmamarocks and it’s very reassuring to know your loved ones are also getting some protection.
My understanding about the vaccines is that we can still get the virus, but not likely to die of the illness. My mom says we are now 99% immune and no longer need masks! Mom is ALWAYS RIGHT whether she is right or not.
I dunno. I think people are either scared of getting the vaccine or scared of government mind control or completely indifferent and think they can start licking stair railings and stuff.
I just hope nobody gets too lazy about hand washing until the mutation named SARS-COV-2-BV-1 can not spread. It is a COVID virus. One person in Texas has it. The patient with this mutated variant is still alive, and the testing and any other lessons about this one patient are being shared globally.
Here’s the information I’ve seen so far on this mutation problem: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04- ... tance.html
Stay safe out there, friends !
Laurie
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Thank you for sharing this info, Laurie. For all we know, this whole problem started with just one person. That's all it took.Laurie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:44 pm Hi you guys. I saw this article about a mutation with a name n everything. It’s a variant of concern. I saw a brief mention of it two days ago on Twitter but now it’s being shared globally.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04- ... tance.html
Please stay safe whenever you can.
Laurie
And Laurie at INSENSE3:
Yes, apparently we can carry the virus without knowing it (in the nasal passages, for example) and spread it to others. Our death rates have fallen dramatically but infection rates and hospitalizations are still far too high in my area.
Also, there's word here that our mask mandate will continue through May and then a sort of "wait and see" approach. Not me; I'll be wearing masks indoors until the numbers go way down (and possibly after). I'm immunocompromised so even with two vax jabs I don't feel confident about surviving an infection.
Stay Well everyone. Having this forum has been such a comfort throughout this whole ordeal. I don't want any of you to get sick or worse.
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Thanks Greyfeather,
I did find this forum of particular comfort during the very first days of covid19 and since. It felt like I made a whole bunch of really cool friends to care about IN ADDITION to the friends I had before this.
It really does me good to stop in and make sure the regular names are posting and everyone is ok. Not to dismiss the losses some folks here have suffered!
I’m invited to attend a wedding in 2 weeks. It was originally planned for this same week last year. I don’t know the details but I will be possibly doubling my mask. I just can’t risk bringing anything unhealthy back to mom! I’m also immune compromised, Greyfeather.
Hope your family is well, herbalhippie and Mike from the Cheese Factory. And a bunch more names. It’s late I am nuts to be up chatting online at 2 in the morning lol.
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I did find this forum of particular comfort during the very first days of covid19 and since. It felt like I made a whole bunch of really cool friends to care about IN ADDITION to the friends I had before this.
It really does me good to stop in and make sure the regular names are posting and everyone is ok. Not to dismiss the losses some folks here have suffered!
I’m invited to attend a wedding in 2 weeks. It was originally planned for this same week last year. I don’t know the details but I will be possibly doubling my mask. I just can’t risk bringing anything unhealthy back to mom! I’m also immune compromised, Greyfeather.
Hope your family is well, herbalhippie and Mike from the Cheese Factory. And a bunch more names. It’s late I am nuts to be up chatting online at 2 in the morning lol.
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Yeah that's true. If everything actually went as planned, all the masks and distancing would've seemed like a complete overreaction. The goal was to have this pandemic be boring as possible and to keep COVID-19 from gaining a foothold in humanity. But now it seems like it'll stick around for years and become less and less lethal and more infectious just like the flu and other diseases have done.IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:40 pmAlthough there were tons of cases, I'd say we dodged a bullet - no burning dead bodies in the street, many people listening and wearing masks, quick rollout of vaccines.StringThing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:01 amDepending on where you are in the US or Europe, we did not avoid it. We just have less people in the west. Look at early NY and Italy.IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:50 pm India is getting swamped with covid, it's how we feared the US and Europe would be at the beginning of the pandemic, running out of ventilators, oxygen, hospital beds. It's said their night sky is illuminated by funeral pyres burning in the open cause the crematoriums can't keep up. US is shipping vaccine to India asap. We're lucky we avoided what they're going through now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-56901163
Wary about news about new variants because small cases lead to perceived high mortality rate. Like when COVID-19 was just starting to spread and we didn't know how bad it was. Few test specifically for new variants, and the ones who do get tested are usually in critical condition. I think it'll follow the pattern that is most useful to the continued life of the virus. Killing the host doesn't help spread genetics.
Fully vaccinated now and I'll be taking my first flight in the last year or so. Can't wait. It's not over, but now that me and my family are vaccinated it is a huge sigh of relief.
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Jealous!! I'm generally a homebody but I love flying... people watching at airports... seeing new places. Or even revisiting old ones. Happy for you and your family, enjoy your flight! I'm living vicariously through you lolStringThing wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 10:31 am Fully vaccinated now and I'll be taking my first flight in the last year or so. Can't wait. It's not over, but now that me and my family are vaccinated it is a huge sigh of relief.
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It really amazes me every time I take off. What a time to be alive that we can do this. Hopefully you get to fly soon too!Sanbutsushin wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:37 pmJealous!! I'm generally a homebody but I love flying... people watching at airports... seeing new places. Or even revisiting old ones. Happy for you and your family, enjoy your flight! I'm living vicariously through you lolStringThing wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 10:31 am Fully vaccinated now and I'll be taking my first flight in the last year or so. Can't wait. It's not over, but now that me and my family are vaccinated it is a huge sigh of relief.
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By now you have all heard yesterday's announcement by the CDC: No more masks necessary outside or in if you are fully vaccinated (except for travel, hospitals, a few others places). Personally, I'm not as happy about this as I'm sure many are. First, I recall the announcement claiming that, with the vaccination, we are now "fully protected" from the virus, although I may have been reading too quickly. As far as I know, this is not true. We can still become infected and still transmit to others - especially any new variants that our COVID vaccines may not protect against. Second, there's the problem of authentication. If only the unvaccinated must wear masks then we'll have to relay on an 'honor system' and I don't know if I can trust anti-vaxxers to wear a face shield when many of them never wanted to in the first place. We have all seen or heard about the public squabbles, the assaults, just the general bad behavior surrounding the 'politics' of masking and distancing. I'm not giving up my mask and I actually worry now that folks will assume I'm not vaccinated and harass me about that. What I'm going to miss from this last year-from-hell is the 'distancing'. It has been an unexpected joy not to have to stand in line with some rando male (OR female) who wants to literally get all up on me if he thinks I should move further along in a line. Or if we happen to meet gazes and so now he wants to tell me about his day or his opinion about something and he needs to get real close to make sure I hear. every. word.
Sorry, back to the subject. My worse fear is that we'll have another surge, especially with these new variants; and can we really go through all of that again? I fear that younger populations will be targeted by the virus next because they provide COVID a largely untapped source of hosts and that all a Virus wants. It's just a mask. It is an inconvenience but, I'd argue, a minor one.
My own city's leaders have decided that we will be wearing masks all through May, which is a relief to me personally. That gives us two weeks, at least, to see vaccination efforts 'in action' while the city begins to open up. It's important to remember that only one third of the U.S. population has been vaccinated.
I hope everyone here at Double M and all of your family and friends remain well and safe. It has been a very long time since our population has been asked to literally think about others' health and safety to such a degree. I hope we can continue to do that
Sorry, back to the subject. My worse fear is that we'll have another surge, especially with these new variants; and can we really go through all of that again? I fear that younger populations will be targeted by the virus next because they provide COVID a largely untapped source of hosts and that all a Virus wants. It's just a mask. It is an inconvenience but, I'd argue, a minor one.
My own city's leaders have decided that we will be wearing masks all through May, which is a relief to me personally. That gives us two weeks, at least, to see vaccination efforts 'in action' while the city begins to open up. It's important to remember that only one third of the U.S. population has been vaccinated.
I hope everyone here at Double M and all of your family and friends remain well and safe. It has been a very long time since our population has been asked to literally think about others' health and safety to such a degree. I hope we can continue to do that
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Re: Coronavirus discussion
I hear ya Greyfeather! I'll be wearing my mask when indoors around other people. I guarantee the majority of folks in my town have not been vaccinated. I think I've been pretty lucky to have not contracted covid up until this point.Greyfeather wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:45 pm By now you have all heard yesterday's announcement by the CDC: No more masks necessary outside or in if you are fully vaccinated (except for travel, hospitals, a few others places). Personally, I'm not as happy about this as I'm sure many are. First, I recall the announcement claiming that, with the vaccination, we are now "fully protected" from the virus, although I may have been reading too quickly. As far as I know, this is not true. We can still become infected and still transmit to others - especially any new variants that our COVID vaccines may not protect against. Second, there's the problem of authentication. If only the unvaccinated must wear masks then we'll have to relay on an 'honor system' and I don't know if I can trust anti-vaxxers to wear a face shield when many of them never wanted to in the first place. We have all seen or heard about the public squabbles, the assaults, just the general bad behavior surrounding the 'politics' of masking and distancing. I'm not giving up my mask and I actually worry now that folks will assume I'm not vaccinated and harass me about that. What I'm going to miss from this last year-from-hell is the 'distancing'. It has been an unexpected joy not to have to stand in line with some rando male (OR female) who wants to literally get all up on me if he thinks I should move further along in a line. Or if we happen to meet gazes and so now he wants to tell me about his day or his opinion about something and he needs to get real close to make sure I hear. every. word.
Sorry, back to the subject. My worse fear is that we'll have another surge, especially with these new variants; and can we really go through all of that again? I fear that younger populations will be targeted by the virus next because they provide COVID a largely untapped source of hosts and that all a Virus wants. It's just a mask. It is an inconvenience but, I'd argue, a minor one.
My own city's leaders have decided that we will be wearing masks all through May, which is a relief to me personally. That gives us two weeks, at least, to see vaccination efforts 'in action' while the city begins to open up. It's important to remember that only one third of the U.S. population has been vaccinated.
I hope everyone here at Double M and all of your family and friends remain well and safe. It has been a very long time since our population has been asked to literally think about others' health and safety to such a degree. I hope we can continue to do that![]()
Uh oh, did I just jinx myself??
Wishing you all well!!
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Thanks so much for the reply, MetalMama!I hear ya Greyfeather! I'll be wearing my mask when indoors around other people. I guarantee the majority of folks in my town have not been vaccinated. I think I've been pretty lucky to have not contracted covid up until this point.
Uh oh, did I just jinx myself??![]()
Wishing you all well!!
You and so so many others here are always in my thoughts.
I just checked our local news station and, unfortunately, city leaders (backed by the governor) have decided that the CDC has the greater wisdom. All masks off if you're vaccinated. And like you, I live in an area where many people haven't been vaccinated. For many of the younger folks it isn't even political. They "just don't feel like it." The last I checked, none of the employees at our nearby grocery have vaxxed up (and one of my favorite cashiers - in her 50s - was out with COVID for nearly a month
Oh well. There's no mandate against them, so I'll be masked up with you in solidarity. Take care, My Dear.
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I feel you on this! There are so many people who just... do not understand personal space. Enforcing social distancing has definitely helped with that. You never need to be so close to a stranger that you can literally feel/hear them breathing on you and yet there seems to be no shortage of people who do exactly that!Greyfeather wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:45 pm What I'm going to miss from this last year-from-hell is the 'distancing'. It has been an unexpected joy not to have to stand in line with some rando male (OR female) who wants to literally get all up on me if he thinks I should move further along in a line. Or if we happen to meet gazes and so now he wants to tell me about his day or his opinion about something and he needs to get real close to make sure I hear. every. word.
I'm with you on the masks; I won't be giving up my mask either. It sucks that I can't seem to find a solution to fogged-up glasses while wearing one, but eh, it is what it is. I'm hoping that this past year will make masks more common/normal going forward, even just for cold and flu season. I should probably know better than to hope for that but... here I am, hoping anyway.
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I don't trust the CDC on this plus haven't they gone back and forth on the masks a couple times already.
Nah, I'll continue to mask up, thanks. Plus, enough people have had breakthrough Covid infections after being fully vaxxed. And I don't trust too many people to not lie about it and go maskless.
Nah, I'll continue to mask up, thanks. Plus, enough people have had breakthrough Covid infections after being fully vaxxed. And I don't trust too many people to not lie about it and go maskless.
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There is a product which you put under the mask and it makes the fog not collect. Dunno what it's called or where to get it, but it exists.Sanbutsushin wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:15 pm
I'm with you on the masks; I won't be giving up my mask either. It sucks that I can't seem to find a solution to fogged-up glasses while wearing one, but eh, it is what it is.
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OMG I'm going to be searching high and low for whatever this is! Thank you for telling me. The only real solutions that have been suggested to me thus far are to use a mask with a nose wire (which hasn't helped me) and to wash my glasses with soap so the soap leaves a film that can't be fogged (which would just make the lenses blurry). I didn't even think to check for things you can put UNDER the mask itself. Thank you!IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:27 pmThere is a product which you put under the mask and it makes the fog not collect. Dunno what it's called or where to get it, but it exists.Sanbutsushin wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:15 pm
I'm with you on the masks; I won't be giving up my mask either. It sucks that I can't seem to find a solution to fogged-up glasses while wearing one, but eh, it is what it is.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion
Stay Away from Vaxxed People Nurse Warns
https://www.roxytube.com/watch/stay-awa ... 02zx6nfxbo
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tYR7Gd8yOdh3/
Warning!! Nanoparticles in Covid "Vaccines" will link you with DARPA/Gates DNA Technology - 19 mins
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Fb61RDrRTnZg/
I dont claim anything just something i came across. From my personal experiences i first hand how shedding affected me.
https://www.roxytube.com/watch/stay-awa ... 02zx6nfxbo
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tYR7Gd8yOdh3/
Warning!! Nanoparticles in Covid "Vaccines" will link you with DARPA/Gates DNA Technology - 19 mins
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Fb61RDrRTnZg/
I dont claim anything just something i came across. From my personal experiences i first hand how shedding affected me.
Kratom user since 2014!