To expand on what I was thinking - most of our members have had the chance to buy from our long-standing menu items, but I know there are a ton of people in this community who have never tried our best sellers (30 Year Red TFH, Wild Harvest Green PMD, Green Hangat Suma VSOP, etc...). If nobody has tried us before, what from our current menu would you reccomend? Of course, if we open soon we will also include some new batches that we haven't offered yet for those who have participated in all of our past events.
Black Friday Update - Texas Family Harvest (TFH)
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Haha I think we might have a very difficult time gaining a consensus. Something that we definitely notice is that everyone's "favorites" from us seem to vary wildly. I think it has something to do with how we compile our menu - personal chemistry is the ultimate factor once poor/average batches are removed from the picture. A lot of the things being listed are items we no longer have in stock - I was looking for suggestions of items that we have in stock and could actually offer.
To expand on what I was thinking - most of our members have had the chance to buy from our long-standing menu items, but I know there are a ton of people in this community who have never tried our best sellers (30 Year Red TFH, Wild Harvest Green PMD, Green Hangat Suma VSOP, etc...). If nobody has tried us before, what from our current menu would you reccomend? Of course, if we open soon we will also include some new batches that we haven't offered yet for those who have participated in all of our past events.
To expand on what I was thinking - most of our members have had the chance to buy from our long-standing menu items, but I know there are a ton of people in this community who have never tried our best sellers (30 Year Red TFH, Wild Harvest Green PMD, Green Hangat Suma VSOP, etc...). If nobody has tried us before, what from our current menu would you reccomend? Of course, if we open soon we will also include some new batches that we haven't offered yet for those who have participated in all of our past events.
Texas Family Harvest - for connoisseurs, by connoisseurs.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
I have to post more to earn private messaging privileges...so I will work on that and then message you. I was a long time member with another kratom forum that died off, and haven't gotten involved in the community here yet so I plan on it. Mainly I've been swept up by the service and quality of TFH and lurk a lot in reading about their posts. Hopefully before too long I'll be able to send a message to youRockcrete88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:42 pmwinpoint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:50 pm Was anyone else a fan of Chocolate Bentuangie IR3? It's all gone now, but TFH had it for maybe two years? Every once in a while I've found a strain that works perfectly for me, and this was my strain. Now that I ran out and I can't get any more, i need to find a new Red strain. Chocolate bent had no wobbles or nausea at about 6 grams, which was my typical dose. Maybe others bought some and didn't like it and still have it sitting around, who knows? It didn't seem to get much love on here. In any event, if anyone knows a current red on offer from TFH that has that quality of scaling well in dosage, a deep relaxing night time red vein, I'm so ears for tips. Usually i have to buy a bunch of different strains and then try them all out to see if I can find a decent ones to stick to. It's quite a hit and miss thing, something that fits that unique character that Chocolate Bent had.
Hey winpoint, I have about 65 grams of the chocolate bent. It just never hit great for me. Send me a pm. If you pay for shipping you can have it. Let me know!
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Re: Texas Family Harvest (TFH) - Open To All For 1 Week Only
Following.......Closedeyesearch wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:41 pm gumby can u share some of those gems not yet mentioned? trying to put together 2 splits
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Holy LOL, every time I see gumbyke1 post in this thread I pop a gasket thinking it's time for the open door sale. Stop giving me a heart attack, comrade! 
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
I think he secretly likes to do it
Just playin, but for real, I have a deep anxiety I'm gonna miss it. Gumbyke1, why do you do this to us!!! Lol
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If you can go back and get old strains must have whites would be samarinda for sure premium kali and white Hulugumbyke1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:41 pmThanks, everyone for your patience! We are sorry for not having an event yet, I know last year I announced that we hoped to have one in Q1 of 2021. Things have been pretty busy for us here at TFH, we just haven't had the bandwidth to open things up yet. We might be planning a partial opening... perhaps a limited menu of some of our best hits of 2020. I was thinking some of our "classics" that most of our members have already hoarded up..... any suggestions on some "must-haves" from our 2020 stock? What would you all reccomend go on the menu for a limited menu sale?Sanbutsushin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:05 amAs far as I can tell, it doesn't seem like it happened just yet! I've been keeping an eye on it as wellbraziliancentipede wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:54 am I feel like I landed here on the edge of too late for this open call! Perhaps not? Oh man. Seriously, if there is a way I can be apart of this open call that would be great! I am from Dallas and am currently living in North Texas if that helps lol...
Can't I just come over? Seriously though, I have read a lot of really sweet things about TFH here which is really really greeeat but I don't know how to email this vendor so my last hope is just to say glad I arrived. Any advice would be awesome. Thanks so much.![]()
On a side note - there are a lot of exciting things we have been working on that we think will take our offerings to a new level...both in quality and in quantity (which means we might be able to do more membership raffles this year!). Hopefully, we will be able to share with the community more than once or twice this year, we look forward to it!![]()
Thanks everyone for your patience! We would love to hear the community's thoughts on what batches should be considered for a limited menu event. Our hope is to share some of our classics with folks who have never had them.... any suggestions on what you would reccomend to a "TFH First-timer" ?
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Sorry about that Chris. I misunderstood. But here is a review of some strains still on the menu that I feel are excellent representations of TFH quality.
Classic Red Maengda
Stable, consistent. This is the best way I can describe it. It provides the same reliable, long lasting pain relief every time I take it, sometimes 5 1/2 hours of pain relief. It’s the perfect before work strain when you need something potent that won’t knock you out. It also has a nice mood lift.
Old School Red Borneo
This is the perfect night time strain. Warm, relaxing with just the right amount of sedation, meaning that you can see the end of the movie if you want. It also has that warm euphoria that makes me want to hug someone. It’s warm and giggly. Excellent mood boost with this one.
Yellow Borneo
I’ve only taken this one 4 or 5 times so I don’t know it as well as the others but I would say it’s a mid to upper mid spec. It’s the right amount of focus and energy for early afternoon when you still have to get stuff done, but don’t want to risk not sleeping that night. I also take it early daytime to get up and going if I need extra pain relief that sometimes a green doesn’t provide. This one also has a great mood boost for me.
Red Ryder Riau
I feel like this strain was made for me. I would take it every morning if I could. It’s the perfect combination of pain relief and energy. This strain enables me to start my day within 45 minutes after taking it. Perfect morning strain. I absolutely love this one. It gives the consistent pain relief of the CRMD with the clean energy of a green.
30 Year Wild Green TFH
This is another one that I don’t have a really good feeling for as far as pain relief goes as I’ve only taken it 4 times. But I loved it every time. It’s a mid spec with lots of mood lift, motivation and focus. This is a fantastic green.
30 Year Wild Super Green
This is a fun strain for me. And another bag I’ve almost emptied. It’s mid-fast, balanced and non-jittery. A go to strain when I need an extra, extra boost to get me going. The focus and motivation seem to last the entire burn, approximately 4 1/2 hours, instead of waning an hour and a half into it.
I don’t think you could go wrong with any of these strains. They are all very fresh and potent. And for me, all TFH strains always last at least 4 hours if not longer
Classic Red Maengda
Stable, consistent. This is the best way I can describe it. It provides the same reliable, long lasting pain relief every time I take it, sometimes 5 1/2 hours of pain relief. It’s the perfect before work strain when you need something potent that won’t knock you out. It also has a nice mood lift.
Old School Red Borneo
This is the perfect night time strain. Warm, relaxing with just the right amount of sedation, meaning that you can see the end of the movie if you want. It also has that warm euphoria that makes me want to hug someone. It’s warm and giggly. Excellent mood boost with this one.
Yellow Borneo
I’ve only taken this one 4 or 5 times so I don’t know it as well as the others but I would say it’s a mid to upper mid spec. It’s the right amount of focus and energy for early afternoon when you still have to get stuff done, but don’t want to risk not sleeping that night. I also take it early daytime to get up and going if I need extra pain relief that sometimes a green doesn’t provide. This one also has a great mood boost for me.
Red Ryder Riau
I feel like this strain was made for me. I would take it every morning if I could. It’s the perfect combination of pain relief and energy. This strain enables me to start my day within 45 minutes after taking it. Perfect morning strain. I absolutely love this one. It gives the consistent pain relief of the CRMD with the clean energy of a green.
30 Year Wild Green TFH
This is another one that I don’t have a really good feeling for as far as pain relief goes as I’ve only taken it 4 times. But I loved it every time. It’s a mid spec with lots of mood lift, motivation and focus. This is a fantastic green.
30 Year Wild Super Green
This is a fun strain for me. And another bag I’ve almost emptied. It’s mid-fast, balanced and non-jittery. A go to strain when I need an extra, extra boost to get me going. The focus and motivation seem to last the entire burn, approximately 4 1/2 hours, instead of waning an hour and a half into it.
I don’t think you could go wrong with any of these strains. They are all very fresh and potent. And for me, all TFH strains always last at least 4 hours if not longer
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
"Old School Red Borneo
This is the perfect night time strain. Warm, relaxing with just the right amount of sedation, meaning that you can see the end of the movie if you want. It also has that warm euphoria that makes me want to hug someone. It’s warm and giggly. Excellent mood boost with this one."
Holy shit!! That was a funny line. Haven't we all been there? The hallmark of a successful session regarding intake AND getting it on!!
This is the perfect night time strain. Warm, relaxing with just the right amount of sedation, meaning that you can see the end of the movie if you want. It also has that warm euphoria that makes me want to hug someone. It’s warm and giggly. Excellent mood boost with this one."
Holy shit!! That was a funny line. Haven't we all been there? The hallmark of a successful session regarding intake AND getting it on!!
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Loveandpeace wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:57 am "Old School Red Borneo
This is the perfect night time strain. Warm, relaxing with just the right amount of sedation, meaning that you can see the end of the movie if you want. It also has that warm euphoria that makes me want to hug someone. It’s warm and giggly. Excellent mood boost with this one."
Holy shit!! That was a funny line. Haven't we all been there? The hallmark of a successful session regarding intake AND getting it on!!
I think that’s just my age showing
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
I love every strain to me that I have got a love old school green bali and agree with the white samiranda and wildcrafted white and all time favorite is wildcrafted gold is worth its weight in gold.the 30 year yellow is awesomeand the new golden sambus (oxidized) is dreamy its dynamite to my pain with a bit of energy and slowly tapers down to a slow burn I always judge my burns by cooking lol I took the golden sambus and made chicken an dumplings like my momma used to make frankly a think anything you put on your menu is fire.I love and cherish every strain I got you truly are legend.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Whoops. I misunderstood also. From the current menu I really like the 30 Year Wild Super Green, Sapphire Samarinda, Green Hangat Suma VSOP, & Sunrise Suma. Need to get a better dosage feel for the Super White Muna but I like it so far. Really don't think I have any TFH batches that I don't like.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
If I had to pick 1 that is on the menu that everyone deserves to try it would be the Wild Harvest Green PMD. There are plenty of other great ones on the menu but this one goes down as a standout for my friends and I.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Wow, where to start? Thanks everybody for leaving solid replies that have given me more direction! I replied here because I really appreciate that you took the time to explain each strain you mentioned. I have been taking kratom for pain relief at work - I was using red borneo which helped immensely but was a bit sedative at the wrong time. I ventured into maengda territory and found that I could have an uplifting, energizing experience and an analgesic effect that also knocked out back pain. I was wondering if all kratom provides pain relief..? If I can make an informed decision of what I get prior that's ideal. ( MycatTimmy) mentioned that sometimes greens don't provide pain relief, could I rely on that altogether for now? To keep it simple, I absolutely am looking to try a pain reliever and a mood lifter + energy that doesn't keep me up at night. All the same, the 30 Year Wild Green TFH and Super Green sound interesting ( me love mood booster) if I took these mid day time, would I be able to get some sleep without having to take a nighttime strain? I take kratom twice a day and am hoping to keep my usage down and my tolerance low. I know that we might experience the effects of these strains differently but it helps to have a little insight too.MycatTimmy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:48 am Sorry about that Chris. I misunderstood. But here is a review of some strains still on the menu that I feel are excellent representations of TFH quality.
Classic Red Maengda
Stable, consistent. This is the best way I can describe it. It provides the same reliable, long lasting pain relief every time I take it, sometimes 5 1/2 hours of pain relief. It’s the perfect before work strain when you need something potent that won’t knock you out. It also has a nice mood lift.
Old School Red Borneo
This is the perfect night time strain. Warm, relaxing with just the right amount of sedation, meaning that you can see the end of the movie if you want. It also has that warm euphoria that makes me want to hug someone. It’s warm and giggly. Excellent mood boost with this one.
Yellow Borneo
I’ve only taken this one 4 or 5 times so I don’t know it as well as the others but I would say it’s a mid to upper mid spec. It’s the right amount of focus and energy for early afternoon when you still have to get stuff done, but don’t want to risk not sleeping that night. I also take it early daytime to get up and going if I need extra pain relief that sometimes a green doesn’t provide. This one also has a great mood boost for me.
Red Ryder Riau
I feel like this strain was made for me. I would take it every morning if I could. It’s the perfect combination of pain relief and energy. This strain enables me to start my day within 45 minutes after taking it. Perfect morning strain. I absolutely love this one. It gives the consistent pain relief of the CRMD with the clean energy of a green.
30 Year Wild Green TFH
This is another one that I don’t have a really good feeling for as far as pain relief goes as I’ve only taken it 4 times. But I loved it every time. It’s a mid spec with lots of mood lift, motivation and focus. This is a fantastic green.
30 Year Wild Super Green
This is a fun strain for me. And another bag I’ve almost emptied. It’s mid-fast, balanced and non-jittery. A go to strain when I need an extra, extra boost to get me going. The focus and motivation seem to last the entire burn, approximately 4 1/2 hours, instead of waning an hour and a half into it.
I don’t think you could go wrong with any of these strains. They are all very fresh and potent. And for me, all TFH strains always last at least 4 hours if not longer
Secondly, someone mentioned that we might need to pm each other and I read prior that eventually the directions would be posted. Yay! In this particular thread? Is it necessary for me to add someone as a friend or leave additional comments to be capable of ordering on an open call? Again, thanks for everything guys I will be sure to check back daily and am excited. It's been really tough this past yr, anyone remember this time last yr? I think its really special that I found Double M and TFH when I did. Can't wait to order and leave some reviews! ( also thanks for not being rough on the newbs) Take care.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
I left quite a few questions and I think some of them are answered in the trading post forum lol! So, I'll leave just one more question for good measure
Does an open call work differently than the trading post? Thanks!
I think the real issue here is that I have yet to ever read anything as enthusiastic as those of you that have tried TFH strains. With that being said, for a new person who doesn't want to miss out on an TFH open call order that might only happen once a year, the uncertainty gets those of us that would normally just read and acclimate within time actually into gear so we don't miss out.
I think the real issue here is that I have yet to ever read anything as enthusiastic as those of you that have tried TFH strains. With that being said, for a new person who doesn't want to miss out on an TFH open call order that might only happen once a year, the uncertainty gets those of us that would normally just read and acclimate within time actually into gear so we don't miss out.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
the open event does work differently than the trading post .braziliancentipede wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:02 am I left quite a few questions and I think some of them are answered in the trading post forum lol! So, I'll leave just one more question for good measureDoes an open call work differently than the trading post? Thanks!
I think the real issue here is that I have yet to ever read anything as enthusiastic as those of you that have tried TFH strains. With that being said, for a new person who doesn't want to miss out on an TFH open call order that might only happen once a year, the uncertainty gets those of us that would normally just read and acclimate within time actually into gear so we don't miss out.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
TFH. It's all good.
And those batches that didn't make the menu? Yeah, send me those too!
And those batches that didn't make the menu? Yeah, send me those too!
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
braziliancentipede wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:02 am I left quite a few questions and I think some of them are answered in the trading post forum lol! So, I'll leave just one more question for good measureDoes an open call work differently than the trading post? Thanks!
I think the real issue here is that I have yet to ever read anything as enthusiastic as those of you that have tried TFH strains. With that being said, for a new person who doesn't want to miss out on an TFH open call order that might only happen once a year, the uncertainty gets those of us that would normally just read and acclimate within time actually into gear so we don't miss out.
you can learn about ordering on this post:
https://doublemherbals.com/viewtopic.php?t=6521
just scroll down a little and you'll find all the good info. now you'll be all set when the magic day comes
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
I'm probably the only one to say/want this, but take your time TFH ! I'm still working on my Black Friday purchases, no rush, my kratom supply is currently almost at max-stash. It's still "defcon speciosa" here in my ghetto apartment castle. 
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Hey Fam!
So what is everyone liking on the current menu as far as fast/energetic + mood boosting strains?
I was re-reading Gumbyke1's post on strains, and how Whites are usually a mix of red & green. So I guess the prevailing wisdom that white=fastest could be a placebo in most cases? Overall I do really prefer whites, but I suppose the reason might be because they are actually more balanced than other colors
I know for my personal body chemistry, greens can cause an irritable/edgy feeling, and reds/golds usually feel weak and don't do much. Then again, some posts also hinted there are other (perhaps superior) ways to create white strains so
Also has anyone tried the TFH crushed leaf? Is making a tea from that similar in effects to powder? I tried to make tea in the past w/powdered leaf and...it did not go well
My go-to method is plain leaf wrapped in oblate discs (w/ 1/4 tsp magnesium oxide powder once a day to keeps things regular).
So what is everyone liking on the current menu as far as fast/energetic + mood boosting strains?
I was re-reading Gumbyke1's post on strains, and how Whites are usually a mix of red & green. So I guess the prevailing wisdom that white=fastest could be a placebo in most cases? Overall I do really prefer whites, but I suppose the reason might be because they are actually more balanced than other colors
I know for my personal body chemistry, greens can cause an irritable/edgy feeling, and reds/golds usually feel weak and don't do much. Then again, some posts also hinted there are other (perhaps superior) ways to create white strains so
Also has anyone tried the TFH crushed leaf? Is making a tea from that similar in effects to powder? I tried to make tea in the past w/powdered leaf and...it did not go well
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Check Blatepapes, they are a larger, square oblate easier to use and same price as the small discs and pouches. You can get them from FusedFlora, amazon, or blatepapes.com.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Thanks for the recommendationIndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:46 pm Check Blatepapes, they are a larger, square oblate easier to use and same price as the small discs and pouches. You can get them from FusedFlora, amazon, or blatepapes.com.
My favorite brand of oblate discs, from the many I've tried so far, is Takikawa Oblate. I get the 2 pack on Amazon for $12.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
I found that sometimes blatepapes do tear, but when you dip them in water before swallowing, they reseal and do not burst open. They may start making pouches, not sure on the timeline.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
I don't make or take mine the recommended way. Probably why Blatepapes don't work as well for me.
My method (if anyone cares
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wrap 'em up like a tiny burrito, lightly lick the edge sealing it shut like a joint, take a small sip of water (holding it in the back of your throat), then throw the wrap in, let it sit for a couple seconds to soften, then swallow.
I also like to make them this way because I can prep days ahead of time. After they dry, I put my different strain pre-rolls for each day in separate mini tupperware or pills bottles w/a desiccant pack for quick & easy dosing on the go.
Sorry for highjacking the thread w/oblate TMI everyone
My method (if anyone cares
wrap 'em up like a tiny burrito, lightly lick the edge sealing it shut like a joint, take a small sip of water (holding it in the back of your throat), then throw the wrap in, let it sit for a couple seconds to soften, then swallow.
I also like to make them this way because I can prep days ahead of time. After they dry, I put my different strain pre-rolls for each day in separate mini tupperware or pills bottles w/a desiccant pack for quick & easy dosing on the go.
Sorry for highjacking the thread w/oblate TMI everyone
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Getting more and more excited by the day! I love the thorough descriptive write-ups by TFH of their offerings and ordering process.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Do you guys offer a Plantation or Plantation MD?gumbyke1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:23 pm Haha I think we might have a very difficult time gaining a consensus. Something that we definitely notice is that everyone's "favorites" from us seem to vary wildly. I think it has something to do with how we compile our menu - personal chemistry is the ultimate factor once poor/average batches are removed from the picture. A lot of the things being listed are items we no longer have in stock - I was looking for suggestions of items that we have in stock and could actually offer.
To expand on what I was thinking - most of our members have had the chance to buy from our long-standing menu items, but I know there are a ton of people in this community who have never tried our best sellers (30 Year Red TFH, Wild Harvest Green PMD, Green Hangat Suma VSOP, etc...). If nobody has tried us before, what from our current menu would you reccomend? Of course, if we open soon we will also include some new batches that we haven't offered yet for those who have participated in all of our past events.![]()
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
This!! I still don't understand why this one's not sold out yet, unless they just have a lot of this one in stock. I've already bought a kilo and I'm going to go back for more when I order again in the next couple days. It's just incredible.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
I cant wait until he accepts new customers. I feel like I've been waiting years!
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Last year I kept making this very same statement about a few... namely the chocolate bent which was on the menu for well over half the year and my most satisfying reliable "slow it down" blender of the year if not just a stellar night cap by it's lonesome.Adrumaddict wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:03 pm
This!! I still don't understand why this one's not sold out yet,
Deep Jungle White Bali I noticed has been hanging around for a moment and is my very definition of slow white melty perfection.
The diversity of what the strains offer explains alot... different strokes for different folks and all that- but I believe it's been confirmed they DO stock up on their standouts which, beyond just making sense, is highly appreciated.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Yes our Wild Harvest Green PMD is one of our most popular batches. I would say all of our batches with the "Wild Harvest" descriptors are customer favorites.... they are indeed special batches. Thankfully we have the ability to acquire large quantities of this leaf, we just wish we were able to provide more variety of them! I actually gave some insights as to why items can stay on our menu for a long time in a post a couple of pages back. I'll paste it belowAdrumaddict wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:03 pmThis!! I still don't understand why this one's not sold out yet, unless they just have a lot of this one in stock. I've already bought a kilo and I'm going to go back for more when I order again in the next couple days. It's just incredible.
If the batch numbers are the same, you can be 100% certain that it is the same batch. I understand it can seem strange to see items on our menu for long periods because what you will usually see is “hot” batches with other vendors sell out fairly quickly. However, its quite a bit different with us because we take a very unconventional approach in how we operate - especially in the areas of production, sourcing, and procurement. We never specifically set out to become a kratom vendor and I think that has everything to do with why we operate a little differently. Basically, it all started as a result of my own dissatisfaction as a consumer. When I was a consumer, I would bounce around vendor to vendor looking for the "holy grail" of vendors. It seems that I always seemed to run into the same 2 problems wherever I went. IMO, these two issues are major flaws in the majority of the industry:
1. QUALITY - There was very little consistency in regards to quality. I routinely found myself buying 4-8 different batches in hope of finding 1-2 items that I liked (something I call "kratom-roulette"). I now know that personal chemistry can have a part in this, but your odds of finding a good batch dramatically improve with some very scrutinized sourcing. Things have gotten better through the years but I still shop around to "test the market".... its still a problem.
2. SCARCITY - When I did find something I liked, it was often sold out by the time I was ready to place another order(and sometimes sold out by the time I received my package).
In my previous career, there was a saying that I used to preach like a broken record. "Remove the obstacles for the customer and just offer what they want.". I suppose I drank enough of my own kool-aid to believe that we could do something special if we just removed those two customer hurdles – so that is basically what we set out to do. We are nowhere near satisfied with where we are in relation to that goal – but I think the folks who have followed us would agree that we are continually improving at what we do.
There is a lot that we do differently that is visible to people paying attention – but I think we are even more unique in how we operate “behind the scenes”. I’ll expand a little bit on what’s different, but before I go further, I want to emphasize that I am not advocating that our approach is "better" than any other vendor, this is just the only way that we have figured out how to best achieve our goal. Additionally, although I think it applies to many, not every other vendor fits into the "box" that I describe below. I know there are probably many vendors smarter than I who have effectively figured out their own way of operating. There are good vendors in this community in which I honestly have no idea of how they operate.... and they have my respect all the same.
Many quality-focused vendors will import smaller batches more frequently, as there are many advantages for a vendor to operate this way.
1. Frequently turning your menu will dramatically increase your customer traffic (sales) and can even instill some FOMO buying on batches that are getting a lot of chatter (echo chambers are a real problem in the kratom community, but that is for another discussion).
2. The biggest advantage in smaller batches is that you wont get stuck with a ton of any one product that is poor in quality.
With most vendors (again this might not apply to all), ordering a ton of a specific batch is very risky because you really can't be certain of the quality of that batch until it's paid for and already in your possession. When a vendor orders products from their suppliers, it’s just like when you do…. you never know what you are getting in terms of quality until it arrives (otherwise vending would be a piece of cake). Vendors actually have it even worse than consumers because at least consumers can read reviews on the forums to aid their buying decisions. Every vendor has stories of "bad buys". In addition, as a vendor, you can't really order more of a batch that is performing well. Even if you ask your supplier for more of the same batch on the day you receive your shipment, it will almost certainly not be from the same stock (even though they will SWEAR that it is
At any rate, I couldn’t find an effective way to remove those two customer hurdles while operating in the model I outlined above. With that, we took more of a slow and steady approach and have spent much of our time/energy in managing our supply chain. This has enabled us to have much more control over certain aspects of production and supply. The slow growth and supply management adds extra layers of cost to our operation, but we are in it for the long-game (besides, it's the only way I have been able to figure out how to achieve our goals).
To avoid boredom, I will spare you the details of our procurement process, but I will share that our method affords allows us to scale our inventory up or down based on how batches perform in consumer quality testing. We do extensive consumer testing (to remove customer hurdle #1) and when we find something consumers really like, we try to go get our hands on as much of it as we can (removing customer hurdle #2). The natural result of this is some of the batches that scored best in consumer testing may be on our menu for a very long time because we bought/kept every bit of it we could.
The second component that contributes to the long-standing menu items is we intentionally limit our customer base (sorry Double M fam!), ensuring we have the product to support them. I think many people assume we limit our base for privacy reasons….nothing you do on the internet is private folks, lol
The majority (not all) of our members eventually order every batch that appears on our menu – and we kind of manage our inventory levels accordingly. All this is taken into account while deciding how much product to procure and when/how often we hold community events. We haven’t perfected this by any means, we will still have batches that sell out quickly, only because we just were not able to acquire that much of it to begin with. However, “too much of a great batch" is just not in our vocabulary…. If it’s good we are going to carry as much of it as we possibly can (see the 30 Year Wild Super Green that has been on our menu since last year.... its still in my personal use rotation
Thanks again for the question, I hope that clears up some of the confusion! I noticed that when we have community events, a lot of “first-time TFH’ers” really miss out on some of our best batches because they will usually order what we have recently added (there tend to be much more reviews for newer items). I haven’t figured out a way to let them know what they are missing – if anyone has any ideas let me know!
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UpInTrees
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Thanks Gumby! It's always great to see this level of information you are willing to share with us. Keep it comin'!
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Adrumaddict
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Thank you so much for that explanation Gumby! Your passion, and compassion comes through in every aspect of what you do, and I can't express enough how much I appreciate that, and how much my life has improved because of it as well. I'm beyond grateful for TFH.
- Madvillain626
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Saving of my stim bux for this
I dosed almost all my tfh from past year It was so dank
I dosed almost all my tfh from past year It was so dank
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Vorter
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Could make a "Classic Hits" or "Hall of Fame" section or notation (!*^) for those.gumbyke1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:05 am I noticed that when we have community events, a lot of “first-time TFH’ers” really miss out on some of our best batches because they will usually order what we have recently added (there tend to be much more reviews for newer items). I haven’t figured out a way to let them know what they are missing – if anyone has any ideas let me know![/color]
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onespeedstop
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Might not want to draw attention to older stock. But, they do vacuum seal the bags, so if it's already partitioned out in 250g bags, then it'd be fresher than usual for 6-12 month old stuff. A 'Best Seller' list might be better, then unless you're a member and have been tracking what's new, no one would know exactly how old it is. That said, if they do it that way, hopefully they check one every 3-4 months, just to make sure it's still good ha-ha. And I'm not picking on TFH, they are more transparent than most about what's up. Just saying that fresh is better in most cases, but proper storage, like seriously proper, matters, and can extend the life of almost anything.Vorter wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:51 pmCould make a "Classic Hits" or "Hall of Fame" section or notation (!*^) for those.gumbyke1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:05 am I noticed that when we have community events, a lot of “first-time TFH’ers” really miss out on some of our best batches because they will usually order what we have recently added (there tend to be much more reviews for newer items). I haven’t figured out a way to let them know what they are missing – if anyone has any ideas let me know![/color]
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
I need to seriously proper store some sealed bags - what's your method?onespeedstop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:47 pm Just saying that fresh is better in most cases, but proper storage, like seriously proper, matters, and can extend the life of almost anything.![]()
Edit: never mind , the search function works fine. - Desiccant, cool, UV and air sealed .
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
DittonW wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:28 pmI need to seriously proper store some sealed bags - what's your method?onespeedstop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:47 pm Just saying that fresh is better in most cases, but proper storage, like seriously proper, matters, and can extend the life of almost anything.![]()
Edit: never mind , the search function works fine. - Desiccant, cool, UV and air sealed .
I've found that my house has the perfect conditions for kratom storage, it can last for many years here.. send me your kratom and i will demonstrate
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onespeedstop
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
Honestly, I don't, I just use the bags the kratom comes in, stored in the bedroom in a box, where it's a moderate-to-cool temp and dark 99% of the time. But I'm not a vendor and I don't need to maximize it's freshness, if I don't seal a bag and it goes bad, that's on me and I'm out $20-$25 or whatever it cost ha-ha. I have had a few bags break (the zipper-locker part stopped working or tore off) in which case I just put what's left in a ziplock and don't worry about it - but again, I don't have 3 tons in storage that I'm trying to sell like a vendor would/might, just a couple kilos for personal use.DittonW wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:28 pmI need to seriously proper store some sealed bags - what's your method?onespeedstop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:47 pm Just saying that fresh is better in most cases, but proper storage, like seriously proper, matters, and can extend the life of almost anything.![]()
Edit: never mind , the search function works fine. - Desiccant, cool, UV and air sealed .
- gumbyke1
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
The vast majority of our products are delivered to us in vacuum packaging and all of it is again vacuum packaged for sale in 5.6mil bags that are odor, oxygen, moisture and light-proof. Admittedly it's a bit of an extreme measure - by no means is this required for proper preservation. However, we jump through all kinds of hoops to bring the best possible product to our members, so in my mind going all the way on the packaging is a no-brainer. We also have a lot of customers that load up on batches that they really like for long-term storage, I think they appreciate that they can just keep it in its original packaging and dont have to worry about a long-term storage strategy.
If you follow 4 simple rules, your kratom will be every bit as good after several years as it was when you first got it.
1. Avoid moisture - keep your kratom sealed in a moisture-proof bag/container. A slightly moister than normal appearance is normal in very fresh kratom, but any kratom that gets "wet" should be discarded. Failing to do so can lead to the growth of aerobic pathogens and spoilage organisms, including molds.
2. Minimize exposure to oxygen. Your kratom will actually hold up just fine against oxidation for 1-2 years if it's kept in most of the bags that vendors provide (even once it's open, just keeping the bags closed to open-air will minimize oxidation). However, if you plan to store kratom long-term (more than 1-2 years) it's best to remove as much oxygen as possible (via vacuum sealing or oxygen absorbing packets).
3. Minimize UV exposure. Most vendors nowadays are using packaging that blocks all light, but even if its in a clear bag, keeping kratom on your desk or something isnt going to be terrible but try to keep it out of direct sunlight. The good thing is the light doesnt penetrate through kratom, so only the kratom on the outside (that is directly exposed to the light) will face oxidization. However, if you have the option to store it in a dark environment, it's always best to do so. If storing for long-term (more than 1-2 years) then it's a must.
4. Keep kratom at room temperatures (when possible). I think it's perfectly fine if you accidentally leave a bag of sealed kratom in a hot car for a day, but the heat isnt good for long-term storage. Storing in a garage or any non-climate controlled environment is not recommended.
I have tons of kratom from as far back as 2011-2012 (from my personal collection) that is just as good now as it was then. I know many folks here can probably attest that with proper storage, kratom doesn't really have a known-shelf life. I would bet that many folks would characterize most of our products as being "more fresh" than your average kratom due to our procurement process and extremes with packaging. I wouldn't even think of hiding the ball that an item has been on our menu for awhile, especially if that for some reason that matters to someone. I understand that in normal consumer phsycology standpoint "older stock" gives the incorrect impression that they are "leftovers". However the way we aquire product is different, a batch that last on our menu for a long time usually means we just tried to acquire a ton of it because its a great batch. IMO anyone who avoids any batches because they have been on the menu for awhile are severely limiting themselves and are honestly just missing out. (A great example being our Wild Harvest Green PMD that is just phenomenal)
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If you follow 4 simple rules, your kratom will be every bit as good after several years as it was when you first got it.
1. Avoid moisture - keep your kratom sealed in a moisture-proof bag/container. A slightly moister than normal appearance is normal in very fresh kratom, but any kratom that gets "wet" should be discarded. Failing to do so can lead to the growth of aerobic pathogens and spoilage organisms, including molds.
2. Minimize exposure to oxygen. Your kratom will actually hold up just fine against oxidation for 1-2 years if it's kept in most of the bags that vendors provide (even once it's open, just keeping the bags closed to open-air will minimize oxidation). However, if you plan to store kratom long-term (more than 1-2 years) it's best to remove as much oxygen as possible (via vacuum sealing or oxygen absorbing packets).
3. Minimize UV exposure. Most vendors nowadays are using packaging that blocks all light, but even if its in a clear bag, keeping kratom on your desk or something isnt going to be terrible but try to keep it out of direct sunlight. The good thing is the light doesnt penetrate through kratom, so only the kratom on the outside (that is directly exposed to the light) will face oxidization. However, if you have the option to store it in a dark environment, it's always best to do so. If storing for long-term (more than 1-2 years) then it's a must.
4. Keep kratom at room temperatures (when possible). I think it's perfectly fine if you accidentally leave a bag of sealed kratom in a hot car for a day, but the heat isnt good for long-term storage. Storing in a garage or any non-climate controlled environment is not recommended.
I have tons of kratom from as far back as 2011-2012 (from my personal collection) that is just as good now as it was then. I know many folks here can probably attest that with proper storage, kratom doesn't really have a known-shelf life. I would bet that many folks would characterize most of our products as being "more fresh" than your average kratom due to our procurement process and extremes with packaging. I wouldn't even think of hiding the ball that an item has been on our menu for awhile, especially if that for some reason that matters to someone. I understand that in normal consumer phsycology standpoint "older stock" gives the incorrect impression that they are "leftovers". However the way we aquire product is different, a batch that last on our menu for a long time usually means we just tried to acquire a ton of it because its a great batch. IMO anyone who avoids any batches because they have been on the menu for awhile are severely limiting themselves and are honestly just missing out. (A great example being our Wild Harvest Green PMD that is just phenomenal)
Texas Family Harvest - for connoisseurs, by connoisseurs.
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
This is a great idea! I'd like for the items that make that list to be picked by members as opposed to myself. If anyone has any strong opinions on what should make that list please email us (or post on this thread).Vorter wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:51 pmCould make a "Classic Hits" or "Hall of Fame" section or notation (!*^) for those.gumbyke1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:05 am I noticed that when we have community events, a lot of “first-time TFH’ers” really miss out on some of our best batches because they will usually order what we have recently added (there tend to be much more reviews for newer items). I haven’t figured out a way to let them know what they are missing – if anyone has any ideas let me know![/color]
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- kmu777
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Re: Texas Family Harvest
A few that I think would be great staples of someone's rotation would be:
Wild Harvest Green Premium MD: MUK-12SD
Super Green Supreme V2: A1-7S
Wild Harvest Magic Maeng Da: MUK-4SD
Red Ryder Riau: A7-16C
Sapphire Sunda SSV 2: A-91NV
Wild Harvest Red PMD (Version 2): MUK-13SD
Wild Premium Kali Red: SB-SD61
Wild White Vietnam: 1Z-A10 (haven't had this particular batch, but the last three have been favorites.)