Coronavirus discussion

[MichalHad]

lokdown has devastated my economy

[instantKARMA]

There's just been a lot of discussion between them about side effects and how bad they can get. And then some people sail through with nothing more than a sore arm. I don't think they know yet if the vaccine will protect against the new mutations popping up. I don't know if my brand spanking new antibodies will protect again the new mutations.It makes me tired.

I'll get the vaccine, but I'm not looking forward to it. I've gotten the flu shot three times in my life
and all three times I got sicker than hell within 24 hours and had nasty flu symptoms that went on
for almost two weeks all three times...so I don't get flu shots! I'm hoping that the vaccine doesn't
give me similar results.

I've discussed this with my doctor and several nurses and they say they wouldn't get a flu shot
either if they had the same experiences that I've had! Needless to say, I don't get flu shots anymore!

[herbalhippie]

Whelp, it's been 3 weeks since I got sick and today I actually feel well enough to get up and make a batch of pain rub, which is a project for sure.

I was starting to wonder if I was in for the long haul like some people who had even mild cases are and I was worried about it.

[MetalMamaRocks]

Whelp, it's been 3 weeks since I got sick and today I actually feel well enough to get up and make a batch of pain rub, which is a project for sure.

I was starting to wonder if I was in for the long haul like some people who had even mild cases are and I was worried about it.

Glad you're feeling better! I was starting to worry because I haven't seen you post lately.

[IndelibleDotInk]

Work that viral immunity, sashay, sashay!

[herbalhippie]

That would be nice but the nurse said the clinic told me I would have some immunity for a few months anyway. Whee

[Greyfeather]

Whelp, it's been 3 weeks since I got sick and today I actually feel well enough to get up and make a batch of pain rub, which is a project for sure.

I was starting to wonder if I was in for the long haul like some people who had even mild cases are and I was worried about it.

I'm very happy to hear that you are doing well, HH.. And my Guy sends all his best too. <3

[StringThing]

A lot of the damaged caused by COVID may not show up for weeks, months, or years. Even people who had NO symptoms are now showing up with respiratory damage/cardiac damage, many months later. It's pretty scary. I think the long term damage is a more real risk for 99% of people who don't get exposed to a high viral load and aren't high risk patients. Everybody tends to only think about the immediate deaths.

[IndelibleDotInk]

Johnson and Johnson covid shot:

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavirus ... on-johnson

single shot

easy to store

70% percentage immunity

85% prevention of serious cases

[Greyfeather]

How are you doing today, HH?

I get worried if you don't post for a while. You ok?

[herbalhippie]

Yeah I'm fine thank you so much for asking, I'm on the mend. I've been catching up on stuff I haven't done for the last three weeks lol

[Quercus]

Yeah I'm fine thank you so much for asking, I'm on the mend. I've been catching up on stuff I haven't done for the last three weeks lol

What a relief! I'm so glad to hear this!

[herbalhippie]

I'm still on edge though, read too many articles about people who had mild cases suddenly crashing or developing fairly severe problems weeks after getting 'better'.

Fkn Covid.

[Greyfeather]

I'm still on edge though, read too many articles about people who had mild cases suddenly crashing or developing fairly severe problems weeks after getting 'better'.

Fkn Covid.

You're going to be fine. Please try not to read those accounts. The press always focuses on extremes because it sells subscriptions and clicks. It's a shame - preying on perfectly sane people's fears. You got this

[DylanJames]

Figured I'd post about the first shot of the vaccine and my experience. I was lucky enough to get it as my mom works for a hospital and they were vaccinating family members that are high risk. The first shot was not painful really. They watched us for 15 minutes afterwords to see if we had any reaction. We did not. The only side effects for me were a sore arm and some muscle stiffness that was worse than usual. My brother ended up with a slight fever twice over the next few days. It dissipated after a few hours. We get the 2nd shot on the 13th and I've heard from friends that one can be worse. I will let you guys know.

[brave777]

Figured I'd post about the first shot of the vaccine and my experience. I was lucky enough to get it as my mom works for a hospital and they were vaccinating family members that are high risk. The first shot was not painful really. They watched us for 15 minutes afterwords to see if we had any reaction. We did not. The only side effects for me were a sore arm and some muscle stiffness that was worse than usual. My brother ended up with a slight fever twice over the next few days. It dissipated after a few hours. We get the 2nd shot on the 13th and I've heard from friends that one can be worse. I will let you guys know.

Did you have kratom in your system before shot? I have a feeling it might help with reducing some of the side effects. Does your brother take kratom? Yeah the second one is the one gives most reaction from what i read as well. I find it kind of scary that some side effects can peak a month later or 2 years down the road. I ll have you in my prayer, keep us updated.

Reason why i said if you had kratom before shot because i know seaweed has similar stuff and pulls toxins out. I think that can be good benefits for high dosers.

[Greyfeather]

I had a dr. appointment on Tuesday. There were two MDs and a student in the room. I said "I have no idea how to get vaccinated." They said "neither do we, but all of us have gotten both of them.". I seriously wanted to ask them how they have no idea how any of this is [not] working. There is no rhyme or reason to any of it in my state - it's an enormous mess. My mother in assisted living STILL doesn't know when she'll get it and now they're claiming that drug stores will be carrying it, just make an appointment. I'm wondering how my mom, who has been in lockdown for 11 months, is supposed to get to CVS for a shot.

God I hate this place with a passion

[DylanJames]

Figured I'd post about the first shot of the vaccine and my experience. I was lucky enough to get it as my mom works for a hospital and they were vaccinating family members that are high risk. The first shot was not painful really. They watched us for 15 minutes afterwords to see if we had any reaction. We did not. The only side effects for me were a sore arm and some muscle stiffness that was worse than usual. My brother ended up with a slight fever twice over the next few days. It dissipated after a few hours. We get the 2nd shot on the 13th and I've heard from friends that one can be worse. I will let you guys know.

Did you have kratom in your system before shot? I have a feeling it might help with reducing some of the side effects. Does your brother take kratom? Yeah the second one is the one gives most reaction from what i read as well. I find it kind of scary that some side effects can peak a month later or 2 years down the road. I ll have you in my prayer, keep us updated.

Reason why i said if you had kratom before shot because i know seaweed has similar stuff and pulls toxins out. I think that can be good benefits for high dosers.

Yes, we both had Kratom in our system. He uses about 7.2g a day for his pain as well as Gabapentin for his damaged nerves. I had used 3 OPMS Gold capsules along with some plain leaf I can't remember the dosage of. It does seem to have helped with the side effects some. My mother got it before us and she really didn't have any side effects and this was before she was taking Kratom. She's gotten them both. I have another friend however who got very sick after the 2nd dose. They still don't know all the long term effects but I was willing to risk it because my mom is very high risk and I don't want her to have to worry about it constantly. And thank you for adding us to your prayers.

Greyfeather, I am sorry to hear about that. Your mom can't get around at all? What state are you in?

[instantKARMA]

Figured I'd post about the first shot of the vaccine and my experience. I was lucky enough to get it as my mom works for a hospital and they were vaccinating family members that are high risk. The first shot was not painful really. They watched us for 15 minutes afterwords to see if we had any reaction. We did not. The only side effects for me were a sore arm and some muscle stiffness that was worse than usual. My brother ended up with a slight fever twice over the next few days. It dissipated after a few hours. We get the 2nd shot on the 13th and I've heard from friends that one can be worse. I will let you guys know.

Got the first shot of the vaccine Sunday morning. By evening I was getting lower back and joint pain. Spent Monday
feeling funky...slight headache, achy lower back and joint pain with some slight periodic nausea. Everything seems
back to normal today...whatever "normal" is...

[mowgli]

My wife & I each received 1st dose of Pfizer on Mon 2/8. Neither of us had any side effects other than a very mild soreness in our arms-similar to some past flu shots. FYI we are both 65+ years old. Hope the 2nd shot goes as smoothly.

[DylanJames]

Found this while browsing: New Mask Guidelines

It's what the CDC is recommending now due to the mutations.

[ScarlettDodd]

Stay safe Keep social distancing.

[MetalMamaRocks]

My husband and I are in the "1-C" group. He's 65 and I'm a 62 year old essential worker so we'll be in the next bunch of eligible folks. Woo hoo!!

[Playerpiano72]

Got my second round of the Moderna this morning. I asked the nurses administering the shots and they both said they started feeling fever and chills at 7 the night of the shot, but they were fine the next day. It's been 5 hours now since I got it, and nothing so far, not even arm soreness. Not looking forward to this evening and waiting on possible symptoms. The symptoms sound a lot like opiate withdrawal. I wonder if kratom will alleviate them?

[Greyfeather]

My husband and I are in the "1-C" group. He's 65 and I'm a 62 year old essential worker so we'll be in the next bunch of eligible folks. Woo hoo!!

Congrats!!

I was able to sign my Guy up for an appointment next week as he qualifies. I don't know when I'll be able to get it though. I'm immunocompromised but you can only get the vaccine if it's owing to organ transplant. Probably not a popular idea but I always felt that if one person qualifies then anyone else living in the same household should also be vaccinated. It just makes more sense to me

[MetalMamaRocks]

My husband and I are in the "1-C" group. He's 65 and I'm a 62 year old essential worker so we'll be in the next bunch of eligible folks. Woo hoo!!

Congrats!!

I was able to sign my Guy up for an appointment next week as he qualifies. I don't know when I'll be able to get it though. I'm immunocompromised but you can only get the vaccine if it's owing to organ transplant. Probably not a popular idea but I always felt that if one person qualifies then anyone else living in the same household should also be vaccinated. It just makes more sense to me

Funny you say that. When my 72 yr old brother-in-law made his appointment for the vaccine he talked them into also scheduling one for my 60 yr old sister who has an autoimmune disease. He used the argument that since they are in the same household they should both be vaccinated. He said at first they wouldn't agree to it but he eventually talked them into it.

I am so grateful my mom gets her second dose next week. Even though I'm super careful around her, it has worried me to death that I might inadvertently infect her since I work with maskless idiots. I know she won't be totally out of the woods since there is now all of these other variants floating around, but at least it will give her some immunity.

[Playerpiano72]

Finally recovered from vaccine side effects, about 48 hours after getting it. At about 18 hours after injection, started to feel crappy. By hour 24 it was full blown...mainly exhaustion, inability to eat, some chills, just all around dysphoria. Not unlike opiate withdrawal, except I felt even more tired, but in this case I was able to sleep through it. I can't imagine having to do anything in the day after the shot. I ended up sleeping all day and night, waking only to eat a little a couple times. Feeling pretty normal now, two days after, so it wraps up pretty quickly. Everyone's different and I don't want to scare anyone out of being vaccinated, just be prepared for possible side effects the day after you get it. I'm still a huge vaccine proponent and think that at some point, everyone should get it.

[MetalMamaRocks]

Finally recovered from vaccine side effects, about 48 hours after getting it. At about 18 hours after eating injection, started to feel crappy. By hour 24 it was full blown...mainly exhaustion, inability to eat, some chills, just all around dysphoria. Not unlike opiate withdrawal, except I felt even more tired, but in this case I was able to sleep through it. I can't imagine having to do anything in the day after the shot. I ended up sleeping all day and night, waking only to eat a little a couple times. Feeling pretty normal now, two days after, so it wraps up pretty quickly. Everyone's different and I don't want to scare anyone out of being vaccinated, just be prepared for possible side effects the day after you get it. I'm still a huge vaccine proponent and think that at some point, everyone should get it.

Thank you for posting. It's good to be aware of this.

[Playerpiano72]

I should note two things
-that those side effects only occurred after the second shot. The first one, the only side effect I felt was a sore injection site the day after, everything else was fine.
-i got the Moderna vaccine. The others could be different in their symptoms

But it's good to know I am now fully vaccinated. Still wearing the mask and social distancing though, until the experts say otherwise (and probably still for a little while after)

[Greyfeather]

Funny you say that. When my 72 yr old brother-in-law made his appointment for the vaccine he talked them into also scheduling one for my 60 yr old sister who has an autoimmune disease. He used the argument that since they are in the same household they should both be vaccinated. He said at first they wouldn't agree to it but he eventually talked them into it.

I am so grateful my mom gets her second dose next week. Even though I'm super careful around her, it has worried me to death that I might inadvertently infect her since I work with maskless idiots. I know she won't be totally out of the woods since there is now all of these other variants floating around, but at least it will give her some immunity.

I won't say I didn't think of that. Six weeks worth of vaccination appointments were gobbled up in two days. I figured they would be on a tight schedule so I'll just be patient.

I haven't spoken to my mom in weeks because her hearing is just that bad now. I'm going to call her home's office and see if they have been vaccinated yet. If not I don't even know what I'll say............
I'm sure your mom will be fine. If she has been on her own this long and hasn't been sick then she's doing everything right. I do worry about that point when half the population is vaccinated - I can't believe they won't push hard to go back to "the old ways." I'm afraid there will be even more carelessness

[MikeEdoessomething]

Do the vaccines work against the mutated and new strains emerging, or is it too early to tell, or are there any theories on how well the vaccines will be against future mutated covid strains? I haven't kept up with the science so I am curious what others think? Will people need to get yearly covid shots like we do with flu-shots (NOT COMPARING the two, to be clear)? It wouldn't surprise me if this became a yearly thing that becomes part of life. And it would be one of the most amazing feats of science and technology if a vaccine for an air-born virus like Covid was created and produced in less than a year. Just wow!! Imagine what good could be done for healthcare and things like cancers or Alzheimer (just example off top of my head) if the entire globe focused on finding solutions to a specific problem!! Of course that is a utopia fantasy

I also just wonder, are each companies vaccines drastically different? What I mean by that is do the different vaccines work differently from one another or do they all basically do the same thing (how they work) to provide immunity? Or do some of the different vaccines have differing methods for providing protection against covid?? Again, I am not up-to-date on the science and honestly interested if each companies vaccine are similar or work in similar ways (basically do the same thing). I ask because, if one specific company makes a vaccine that is 99% effective against Covid-19 (as an example), is it normal for other companies to make their own different vaccines, and which may not work the same or be as effective? Wouldn't a vaccine that is 99% effective (in this example) just be made to do the same thing by every company?? Does this occur with vaccines for medical issues/viruses, where different companies produce different vaccines for one specific virus/problem (hope everyone knows what I mean, I know every medical issue is different)??? Again, I'm just curious and not well enough educated in how vaccines like the ones for covid are made and if there are reasons why different companies would make their own vaccines (which I'm sure there are logical purposes to not all make the same product). I hope I'm not coming across as extremely ignorant on this issue- it's been a long day and I'm just rambling various thoughts at this point lol

I also wonder which of the various vaccines the medical community thinks is the most effective and/or safest as of right now? That would be an interesting perspective to read about.

I don't know when I will be eligible to get my vaccine shot. Hopefully soon. And hopefully this long post doesn't come across in the wrong way, or anti-vaccine, which it isn't and which I am not lol. I really have just been very curious if anyone else shared the same questions about the various vaccines and how/if they are different and what everyone else thinks about the potential of covid becoming a part of our lives going forward as another health risk that we just have to learn to live with?

I'm going to sleep now because typing up complex hypothetical questions at 2:45am is not the smartest choice

[Greyfeather]

These are all really good questions, Mike. A half hour of Googling will help you with some of the answers. I think you're on to something. The virus and its variants seem to be pretty creative when it comes to surviving so I wouldn't be at all surprised if we'll need to be vaccinated every year (or at least people of a certain age and those who have poor immunity).

I would definitely consider you a "front line worker" although even in my state restaurant employees and grocery store staff are not being prioritized. I think that this is a terrible mistake. I pretty much only see grocery employees these days. I don't know if they are tested and they could easily contribute to viral spreading. Also, many of them are in their late 50s, early 60s and, imo, at greater risk. No one should have to go to work with this kind of risk.

My county has a site dedicated to COVID: number of hospitalizations, infections, testing, mortality, etc. See if you can find yours and check frequently for news about who qualifies and when and for more updates. Your state might move you closer to the front of the line (or even have a plan for hazard pay).

I'm glad that you're still feeling fine.

[brave777]

Now this is what i call a real mask! No spit can get in ever...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhk2qyXY_3o

[MetalMamaRocks]

We got our first dose of the Moderna vaccine yesterday! We got it yesterday morning and by around 4 I had a headache, chills, and a sore arm. I still went grocery shopping so it wasn't real bad, but I don't know if I would've wanted to work feeling like that. Hubby felt fine, barely a sore arm at injection site.

My sister has an autoimmune disease and the first vaccine knocked her on her ass. She's really dreading the second one.

[MetalMamaRocks]

Oh, I want to add, don't know if this really makes a difference but a friend told me if you get the 2nd shot in the other arm the side effects won't be as bad. He and his brother both tried it and it worked for them. Neither had side effects the second time.

Could just be coincidence, but it's worth a try!

[herbalhippie]

I'm still kinda scared of the vaccine. The Johnson and Johnson one is out now, I might do that one. One and done.

[MetalMamaRocks]

I'm still kinda scared of the vaccine. The Johnson and Johnson one is out now, I might do that one. One and done.

I wish they had the J&J here, I would've taken it.

[BallzDeep9]

The Pfizer Biontech vaccine was first out, it's BEEN out now for months and... Stats now for a million people: almost Zero side effects and 94% Effective!! I see reports it's going for $200 per shot on the Black Market now... most of the World, wants this and can't get it. - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfizer-cov ... dy-israel/

Was a No Brainer for me, compared to getting the bug? No Way. This was Vaccine Week in my county... after spending like 2 weeks online, clicking on Appointment links and "No Available" on and on. The local paper said on Monday a large supply was delivered here. Finally!! Drove to a Mass Vaccination site. Every state has a few of these... any concerns about "where" to get your Shot, the Mass Vaxx is OFFICIAL - it's run by U.S. Army. YES!! I got my shot from a U.S. Army Medic. You know they have proper handling of the stuff, sub zero cold storage. I'd estimate like 200 cars lined up. Relief. No side effects at all. Felt just like getting a regular flu-shot. I'll be getting my 2nd booster shot, in a couple weeks. Yaaayyy!!

[herbalhippie]

Well, whichever one I get, IF I decided to get it, I can't have until mid-April at the earliest. Because I won't be 65 until December and my PCP says my asthma is not bad enough to put me in the high risk category. And because my antibodies should give me a few months of protection. From one variant anyway.

[brave777]

Felt just like getting a regular flu-shot.

Have you heard that UK has the MRNA but USA has just regular flu shots. Also Africa has their own too, its even labeled not for USA or Europe. I don't think USA will have many deaths from the shots compared to other country's. Sorry nothing to back up. Just what I heard from alternatives. I really hope no one here on kratom forum has any reactions to what ever they decide to get.