Absolutely "lucid kratom dreams," Swablero! I began regularly experiencing lucid dreaming around 1990 and since taking up a daily kratom burn, it's accelerated! Fun times!swablero wrote:Hey @Jabro! I havnt, So far like everything he has is interesting. Yeah I finally ordered a white after 2 orders myself. I have the Wild White coming Friday. I ordered 2 split halves so I'm looking forward to checking out 8 strains! I wont go into them now, lol.jabro70 wrote:
Swablero- have you tried any of his whites? I got a sample of the White Sumba, but that was the only white i got out of 2 orders.
I really liked the R Hula and Red Vein and he sent me a little Wild Red MD Jong Kong "Sunkist" that was lethal. I don't know if that's a blast from the past or something else. The Wild Green Kapua from April was top notch. The Dark Elephant Fermented was unique. Someone used the adjective "narcotic". At first I took it as a night time strain and dosed it before bed. But I learned it has a steady pulse of energy and when I did fall into a light sleep i could stand to the side and watch my dreams. Lucid Kratom dreams haha. That one is strong. I haven't tried the unfermented version or the new one yet. I have a few I ordered but haven't tried but I'm getting more anyway.
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@Instantkarma, Really thats interesting 29 years wow. I know its possible to train yourself to enter that state. I'm new to it though I think Ive experienced lucid dreaming for a few years when I was fasting regularly when I was a bit younger. Its amazing that certain strains like the fermented dark elephant reliably throw you into that state. I'm wondering do you feel rested after a nights sleep when you experience that state?instantKARMA wrote:Absolutely "lucid kratom dreams," Swablero! I began regularly experiencing lucid dreaming around 1990 and since taking up a daily kratom burn, it's accelerated! Fun times!swablero wrote:Hey @Jabro! I havnt, So far like everything he has is interesting. Yeah I finally ordered a white after 2 orders myself. I have the Wild White coming Friday. I ordered 2 split halves so I'm looking forward to checking out 8 strains! I wont go into them now, lol.jabro70 wrote:
Swablero- have you tried any of his whites? I got a sample of the White Sumba, but that was the only white i got out of 2 orders.
I really liked the R Hula and Red Vein and he sent me a little Wild Red MD Jong Kong "Sunkist" that was lethal. I don't know if that's a blast from the past or something else. The Wild Green Kapua from April was top notch. The Dark Elephant Fermented was unique. Someone used the adjective "narcotic". At first I took it as a night time strain and dosed it before bed. But I learned it has a steady pulse of energy and when I did fall into a light sleep i could stand to the side and watch my dreams. Lucid Kratom dreams haha. That one is strong. I haven't tried the unfermented version or the new one yet. I have a few I ordered but haven't tried but I'm getting more anyway.
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Well, swablero, the answer to that question would be in the affirmative. Another cool thing about lucid dreaming is thatswablero wrote:@Instantkarma, Really thats interesting 29 years wow. I know its possible to train yourself to enter that state. I'm new to it though I think Ive experienced lucid dreaming for a few years when I was fasting regularly when I was a bit younger. Its amazing that certain strains like the fermented dark elephant reliably throw you into that state. I'm wondering do you feel rested after a nights sleep when you experience that state?instantKARMA wrote:
I've also NOT had one nightmare since lucid dreaming began...29 years and not ONE nightmare.... and I'm always in
control of the dream whether I'm aware I'm dreaming or not. That puts an entirely new perspective on a dream that
should/could be scary! Don't get me wrong, not every dream I have is one that I would refer to as "lucid dreaming!"
...and, since childhood, around...oh, maybe eight years old or so , I've usually (but not always) been able to resume a
dream after waking and going back to sleep. (I wish I had a dollar for every dream I've been able to continue!) That's a
huuuuuge bonus when you're having a particularly awesome dream!
Now, I suppose I'm going to have to order the "fermented dark elephant" now that you've put it in my head!
feel that "Commodity lust" setting in! Thanks for that!
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haha @Jabro! Oh yeah. Im living in lust lately.instantKARMA wrote:
@Instantkarma, Really thats interesting 29 years wow. I know its possible to train yourself to enter that state. I'm new to it though I think Ive experienced lucid dreaming for a few years when I was fasting regularly when I was a bit younger. Its amazing that certain strains like the fermented dark elephant reliably throw you into that state. I'm wondering do you feel rested after a nights sleep when you experience that state?
Well, swablero, the answer to that question would be in the affirmative. Another cool thing about lucid dreaming is that
I've also NOT had one nightmare since lucid dreaming began...29 years and not ONE nightmare.... and I'm always in
control of the dream whether I'm aware I'm dreaming or not. That puts an entirely new perspective on a dream that
should/could be scary! Don't get me wrong, not every dream I have is one that I would refer to as "lucid dreaming!"
...and, since childhood, around...oh, maybe eight years old or so , I've usually (but not always) been able to resume a
dream after waking and going back to sleep. (I wish I had a dollar for every dream I've been able to continue!) That's a
huuuuuge bonus when you're having a particularly awesome dream!
Now, I suppose I'm going to have to order the "fermented dark elephant" now that you've put it in my head!I can
feel that "Commodity lust" setting in! Thanks for that!
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I learned how to lucid dream long ago. My problem now is during the dream, I'll start feeling like I don't have control and it can get bad. Too much caffeine brings on nightmares. Phenibut intensifies it 10x in a good way, you have more awareness and you don't wake yourself up as easily because you're more relaxed. I've had dreams on phenibut that seem to last for hours, and extraordinarily vivid. Kratom works okay too. I get to do a lot of flying. I'm able to become lucid in at least part of a dream, almost every night. Everyone ought to try it.
Sorry not trying to hijack this thread
Sorry not trying to hijack this thread
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That's really interesting @breathhappening. I cant imagine doing phen in this context. Geez that's stretching consciousness way beyond the limits, lol. Hijack a thread? On MM? Impossible. You and instant should get together and compare notes. Maybe you can meet in a dreambeathappening wrote:I learned how to lucid dream long ago. My problem now is during the dream, I'll start feeling like I don't have control and it can get bad. Too much caffeine brings on nightmares. Phenibut intensifies it 10x in a good way, you have more awareness and you don't wake yourself up as easily because you're more relaxed. I've had dreams on phenibut that seem to last for hours, and extraordinarily vivid. Kratom works okay too. I get to do a lot of flying. I'm able to become lucid in at least part of a dream, almost every night. Everyone ought to try it.
Sorry not trying to hijack this thread
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There is something about that Dark Elephant that is conducive to dreaming. I dont get it. I think its cause its not a nightime strain but im taking it before bedtime. It happened again last night. Really fine leaf. I love the concept of small batches. Just seems something different about this one. Has anyone else tried it?
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Damn, "commodity lust" is killin' me! I went to Soulistic to order the Dark Elephant and it's SOLD OUT!swablero wrote:There is something about that Dark Elephant that is conducive to dreaming. I dont get it. I think its cause its not a nightime strain but im taking it before bedtime. It happened again last night. Really fine leaf. I love the concept of small batches. Just seems something different about this one. Has anyone else tried it?
BUMMER!
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InstantKARMA I can tell you the PMD he jsut listed tonight is just as strong. There also is a white and green Jong Kong thats excellent. I'm going to order more as this small batch stuff doesnt last.instantKARMA wrote:Damn, "commodity lust" is killin' me! I went to Soulistic to order the Dark Elephant and it's SOLD OUT!swablero wrote:There is something about that Dark Elephant that is conducive to dreaming. I dont get it. I think its cause its not a nightime strain but im taking it before bedtime. It happened again last night. Really fine leaf. I love the concept of small batches. Just seems something different about this one. Has anyone else tried it?
BUMMER!
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[quote][/quote]Ive also tried their Dark Red Elephant and its more like a green with strong euphoria and a pulse of energy running through it. Really surprising. Strong with long legs.,,swab,,,,you got that right, ,,geez, ,U4EAhh,,,this is 1st time I have tried Soul,,,,I have to say that I am a happy camper,,,I was super stressed earlier, overwhelmed, ,,now,,I'm totally calm,,,,

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Glad you're liking the Dark Red, Oletimer. The Soulistic's Dark Elephant is from the same supplier that gave K O G its ElitelElephant and many may be familiar with that fire strain. The EliteElephant is a blend of the Dark Red, White and Green. Soul is just selling the Dark Red. Soul has some Green and White Kapuas coming any day that were excellent last month before they sold out. The strain I'm really really waiting for is expected Dark Green Pinoh which is coming end of week.Oletimer wrote:Ive also tried their Dark Red Elephant and its more like a green with strong euphoria and a pulse of energy running through it. Really surprising. Strong with long legs.,,swab,,,,you got that right, ,,geez, ,U4EAhh,,,this is 1st time I have tried Soul,,,,I have to say that I am a happy camper,,,I was super stressed earlier, overwhelmed, ,,now,,I'm totally calm,,,,![]()
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Hey guys- whats the shipping time like for Soulistic Herbs? I'm thinking about ordering some tonight.... Any particular strains that stand out right now?
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Apathyc8chaos, Shipping is USPS and has been quick for me.Apathycre8schaos wrote:Hey guys- whats the shipping time like for Soulistic Herbs? I'm thinking about ordering some tonight.... Any particular strains that stand out right now?
I dont know what you like but he some nice euphoric reds, in Red Hula, Red Vein and Red MD from what ive tried. The House 42 is a nice slow euphoric Red. The MD is the fastest. The PMD is real good I ordered more of that myself. The Green Mantrip Green Sunda (same supplier as Kats) are nice. Green Bali is what youd expect a bit of energy and big mood lift. The big news is that he has G&W Kapuas coming any day among other things. In general everything is good. Emailing is a good strategy for pinpointing what you would like.
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I’ve ordered a few times and I got all of them lightning fast. Had tracking same day.Apathycre8schaos wrote:Hey guys- whats the shipping time like for Soulistic Herbs? I'm thinking about ordering some tonight.... Any particular strains that stand out right now?
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Yeah Swablero, I’m wanting to get some of the PMD before it’s gone, but I’m also waiting for a few more strains. I hate I missed the Dark Elephant - that one sounded goooood! I got the Green Mantap, Green Sunda, and Green Sumba in my first order and all of them were good. I thought the Green Mantap was probably the strongest of those, but it’s a little fast for me. Green Sunda was nice. I ordered the Yellow Sunda (twice), and it’s very good too. My favorites from Soulistic have been the Red Hulu, Red MD, Premium RV and Yellow Sunda. Hopefully he’ll get more Dark Elephant in with those Kapuas and that would round out a perfect split for me.swablero wrote:Apathyc8chaos, Shipping is USPS and has been quick for me.Apathycre8schaos wrote:Hey guys- whats the shipping time like for Soulistic Herbs? I'm thinking about ordering some tonight.... Any particular strains that stand out right now?
I dont know what you like but he some nice euphoric reds, in Red Hula, Red Vein and Red MD from what ive tried. The House 42 is a nice slow euphoric Red. The MD is the fastest. The PMD is real good I ordered more of that myself. The Green Mantrip Green Sunda (same supplier as Kats) are nice. Green Bali is what youd expect a bit of energy and big mood lift. The big news is that he has G&W Kapuas coming any day among other things. In general everything is good. Emailing is a good strategy for pinpointing what you would like.
I actually just burned the Red Hulu again mixed 2:1 with Smiley’s Yellow Vietnam. It’s still fantastic- glad I got a butt-load
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Does he do 4way split kilos with his backstock? Or is it just half/full kilos?
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I’m sure he probably would - just email him and ask him. He is quick to respond, friendly, and very helpful.beathappening wrote:Does he do 4way split kilos with his backstock? Or is it just half/full kilos?
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He does 4way splits with his backstock. That's what I did.beathappening wrote:Does he do 4way split kilos with his backstock? Or is it just half/full kilos?
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It's been an absolute pleasure using Soul as my vendor. His Dark Elephant is one of my favorite strains of all time. I got a tiny bit of fermented DE which I treat like gold. His Red Hulu is excellent when mixed with a green. Green Sumba has some real nice euphoria to it. Everything is just quality. I don't worry about any of his strains being duds. He will not sell it if it's no good.
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Thanks Jabro. I'm glad I'm not the only one giving an opinion, lol and at this point there are a lot of good opinions here. I agree with everything you've said. The reds are those Green Reds I look for. Heavy on relaxation and dare I say euphoria, Whatever Ive tried has been good. Frustrating cause its small batch and moves so fast .eg the Dark Elephant The G Bali and G Hula. The chocolate was the same as K O G. Yes the Dark Elephant was something special. I just have a little of it unfortunately. Really unique. You saw my explanation of how it differs from K O G's vaunted EliteElephant. I actually have the fermented dark elephant as well which was a small batch and adds another twist is really trippy i must say. Thats the lucid dreamer, lol. Yeah I really like the PMD. Really a perfect burn for me. He has more stuff coming into stock this week and we're all waiting to jump on it. Soul is also real fun to work with.jabro70 wrote:Yeah Swablero, I’m wanting to get some of the PMD before it’s gone, but I’m also waiting for a few more strains. I hate I missed the Dark Elephant - that one sounded goooood! I got the Green Mantap, Green Sunda, and Green Sumba in my first order and all of them were good. I thought the Green Mantap was probably the strongest of those, but it’s a little fast for me. Green Sunda was nice. I ordered the Yellow Sunda (twice), and it’s very good too. My favorites from Soulistic have been the Red Hulu, Red MD, Premium RV and Yellow Sunda. Hopefully he’ll get more Dark Elephant in with those Kapuas and that would round out a perfect split for me.swablero wrote:Apathyc8chaos, Shipping is USPS and has been quick for me.Apathycre8schaos wrote:Hey guys- whats the shipping time like for Soulistic Herbs? I'm thinking about ordering some tonight.... Any particular strains that stand out right now?
I dont know what you like but he some nice euphoric reds, in Red Hula, Red Vein and Red MD from what ive tried. The House 42 is a nice slow euphoric Red. The MD is the fastest. The PMD is real good I ordered more of that myself. The Green Mantrip Green Sunda (same supplier as Kats) are nice. Green Bali is what youd expect a bit of energy and big mood lift. The big news is that he has G&W Kapuas coming any day among other things. In general everything is good. Emailing is a good strategy for pinpointing what you would like.
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FYI Breathappening, Someone else, not Soul handles packing and shipping the backstock. As Jersey said they do do splits and there are some excellent deals available on good leaf.beathappening wrote:Does he do 4way split kilos with his backstock? Or is it just half/full kilos?
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Ok cool, thank you all for the replies. Planning on trying him out very soon, with all the glowing reviews it's hard not to
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For anyone who follows Soulistic or wants to give it a try, they restocked last night. I'm not sure what level of interest there is but now would be a good time to get some. There is a lot of interest in the Dark Green Pinoh, Wild Kapuas Red Green and White, Green Ket etc. I'll post a review when I get mine. 
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THANKS for the heads up, been wanting to try...so any clues on the Profiles of the Green #1 or #5, Super MD or the Saka...I emailed him some questions earlier and never heard back...any recommendations from the NEW stuff posted today?...I have had Pinoh leaf before, so gonna grab that...I like Kapuas leaf, but have no ideas on the others?swablero wrote:For anyone who follows Soulistic or wants to give it a try, they restocked last night. I'm not sure what level of interest there is but now would be a good time to get some. There is a lot of interest in the Dark Green Pinoh, Wild Kapuas Red Green and White, Green Ket etc. I'll post a review when I get mine.
O yeah, forgot...can you split 250 grams?
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Hey Lapdog! Theres a general curiosity as to whats what amomg us who follow Soulistic. I just got my PMD from the last order and I'm very pleased. Soul is really busy at the moment so we are not getting much feed back yet. He has someone answer his emails and take orders so he can focus on the packing and shipping. I put my order in last night and I wont know till after Saturday whats what. I heard the Pinohs and Kapuas are excellent. I had past Kapuas and loved them. The Green Ketapang is said to be very euphoric. The green Saka is typically a solid mid-spec Green.labdog03 wrote:THANKS for the heads up, been wanting to try...so any clues on the Profiles of the Green #1 or #5, Super MD or the Saka...I emailed him some questions earlier and never heard back...any recommendations from the NEW stuff posted today?...I have had Pinoh leaf before, so gonna grab that...I like Kapuas leaf, but have no ideas on the others?swablero wrote:For anyone who follows Soulistic or wants to give it a try, they restocked last night. I'm not sure what level of interest there is but now would be a good time to get some. There is a lot of interest in the Dark Green Pinoh, Wild Kapuas Red Green and White, Green Ket etc. I'll post a review when I get mine.
I think info will come in over the next few days and it will become clearer whats what. I took a chance with a few strains and got a few samples. Even bought things from previous batches that I know is good. The Red hula, Red MD and Plation R4d Vien are nice green-reds. In any case, I dont want to speculate too much. I know Soul tests and evaluates each and every batch before accepting it and only sells what he thinks is quality leaf. Its interesting, he uses the same suppliers as KOG, Kats, RVA and Sacred Son etc. I havnt been disapointed yet. But of couse everyone is different when it comes to Kratom. But I'll update this thread over the next few days and hopefully some other fans will jump in. Many are waiting till they get there orders cause he does sell out so quickly.
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Thanks Swablero...I ordered with my "gut", haha...In the emails to finish the deal, he said he could not have recommended a better selection than I chose, So I'm happy, and will see how these are and what everyone else thinks as they try the new batch...I did a double 500 split to get 8 strains...Dark Grn Pinoh, Super MD, Green Saka, Green Mantap, Wild grn/red/wht Kapuas and Green # 5. I have a bunch of good Ketapang from KOG, so went with the #5 on a hunch
I'm sure I'll like some of those?
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Haha. Nice selection. More diverse than what I order. I piled up on a few strains. I think you did exceptionally well with all the anecdotal knowledge going around. I meant to get the Mantap but i spaced on it. We'll compare notes on this thread. Thanks manlabdog03 wrote:Thanks Swablero...I ordered with my "gut", haha...In the emails to finish the deal, he said he could not have recommended a better selection than I chose, So I'm happy, and will see how these are and what everyone else thinks as they try the new batch...I did a double 500 split to get 8 strains...Dark Grn Pinoh, Super MD, Green Saka, Green Mantap, Wild grn/red/wht Kapuas and Green # 5. I have a bunch of good Ketapang from KOG, so went with the #5 on a hunchI'm sure I'll like some of those?
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Soulistics has be my favorite vendor the last couple months. My experience over all has been wonderful! I only order green strains for the most part, so with that said, every green strain I’ve ordered has been top notch from Soulistics. The new 5/15 batch, Soul recommended Green Ketapang, says mood lift is excellent. You simply can’t go wrong with Soulistics!labdog03 wrote:Thanks Swablero...I ordered with my "gut", haha...In the emails to finish the deal, he said he could not have recommended a better selection than I chose, So I'm happy, and will see how these are and what everyone else thinks as they try the new batch...I did a double 500 split to get 8 strains...Dark Grn Pinoh, Super MD, Green Saka, Green Mantap, Wild grn/red/wht Kapuas and Green # 5. I have a bunch of good Ketapang from KOG, so went with the #5 on a hunchI'm sure I'll like some of those?
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The last green #5 was slow and all the wilds are wonderful...faves are MD pinoh and Dark Green Pinoh
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Am beyond Stoked on my incoming Order for I’m hoping this Saturday!
I have 1, 500g
4, 125gs
& 1, 250g
6 Strains All New all from Mother Nature
God Bless us All soo grateful not even kidding
This is a great time for us Soul fanatics who have the privilege to try these excellent batches!!
Fk Yeaah!
I have 1, 500g
4, 125gs
& 1, 250g
6 Strains All New all from Mother Nature
God Bless us All soo grateful not even kidding
This is a great time for us Soul fanatics who have the privilege to try these excellent batches!!
Fk Yeaah!
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Funny, that looks almost like my exact order, but I got the PMD instead of Super MD and White Pinoh instead of Green Mantap (I already have that one - and it’s good). I also added a sample of the White MD. Kinda hated to order that much at once, but I’ve already seen that with Soulistic, you better jump on them quick. The White Ketapang2 (5/12 Batch) didn’t last a day.labdog03 wrote:Thanks Swablero...I ordered with my "gut", haha...In the emails to finish the deal, he said he could not have recommended a better selection than I chose, So I'm happy, and will see how these are and what everyone else thinks as they try the new batch...I did a double 500 split to get 8 strains...Dark Grn Pinoh, Super MD, Green Saka, Green Mantap, Wild grn/red/wht Kapuas and Green # 5. I have a bunch of good Ketapang from KOG, so went with the #5 on a hunchI'm sure I'll like some of those?
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jabro70 wrote:Funny, that looks almost like my exact order, but I got the PMD instead of Super MD and White Pinoh instead of Green Mantap (I already have that one - and it’s good). I also added a sample of the White MD. Kinda hated to order that much at once, but I’ve already seen that with Soulistic, you better jump on them quick. The White Ketapang2 (5/12 Batch) didn’t last a day.labdog03 wrote:Thanks Swablero...I ordered with my "gut", haha...In the emails to finish the deal, he said he could not have recommended a better selection than I chose, So I'm happy, and will see how these are and what everyone else thinks as they try the new batch...I did a double 500 split to get 8 strains...Dark Grn Pinoh, Super MD, Green Saka, Green Mantap, Wild grn/red/wht Kapuas and Green # 5. I have a bunch of good Ketapang from KOG, so went with the #5 on a hunchI'm sure I'll like some of those?
control for the past month...and now......I'm off the rails...totally bonkers...completely unhinged!
quite mad here, I fit right in!"
1st split:
Green Saka
Wild Green Kappuas
Green Ketapang
Dark Green Pinoh
2nd split:
Green #5
PMD
Green JK
White JK
"Commodity lust" is a ghastly affliction!
(and to think, I'm "normally" a red strain kinda guy!)
- swablero
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Re: SoulisticHerbs
haha yeah its a sickness. If i never bought another batch I'd have enough for a long long time.instantKARMA wrote:[
I hAte tHis thReAd...made me order two 500 gram splits! I had my six month buying spree under complete
control for the past month...and now......I'm off the rails...totally bonkers...completely unhinged!You're "all
quite mad here, I fit right in!"
1st split:
Green Saka
Wild Green Kappuas
Green Ketapang
Dark Green Pinoh
2nd split:
Green #5
PMD
Green JK
White JK
"Commodity lust" is a ghastly affliction!
(and to think, I'm "normally" a red strain kinda guy!)
Good selection. SuperMD?? The slower greens are indistinguishable from reds, lol.
Its all really good man. Enjoy!
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Re: SoulisticHerbs
Has anyone heard from soulistic yet, since his site closed down? Just a little concerning, as I just place my first order Thursday, and have not heard anything since making PAYMENT? Just tried to access the website again and it's still down. Hoping it's just that he is trying to catch up, but might have been nice to post a message some place. I'm sure he is a good guy and all, but I just gave him $100 bucks, and poof, everything shuts down with no explanation? Can't just lock the door to Wal-Mart and not tell anyone why? I truly hope he is OK.
If anyone knows the inside story, please do share?
P.S....just tried to email him and my email FAILED
If anyone knows the inside story, please do share?
P.S....just tried to email him and my email FAILED
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Re: SoulisticHerbs
I’m in the same boat Labdog.labdog03 wrote:Has anyone heard from soulistic yet, since his site closed down? Just a little concerning, as I just place my first order Thursday, and have not heard anything since making PAYMENT? Just tried to access the website again and it's still down. Hoping it's just that he is trying to catch up, but might have been nice to post a message some place. I'm sure he is a good guy and all, but I just gave him $100 bucks, and poof, everything shuts down with no explanation? Can't just lock the door to Wal-Mart and not tell anyone why? I truly hope he is OK.
If anyone knows the inside story, please do share?
P.S....just tried to email him and my email FAILED
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Re: SoulisticHerbs
Soul is well. Absolutely do not worry about your order. Soul was forced to pull everything down. Long story short, the origin of the problem is still a mystery, something related to a bogus charge of fraud, and we can only speculate on the nefarious forces behind this. Bank assets were frozen. PayPal's crusade against the leaf is suspect. Soul is quite well and figuring out how to deal with this setback as many a vendor before him.labdog03 wrote:Has anyone heard from soulistic yet, since his site closed down? Just a little concerning, as I just place my first order Thursday, and have not heard anything since making PAYMENT? Just tried to access the website again and it's still down. Hoping it's just that he is trying to catch up, but might have been nice to post a message some place. I'm sure he is a good guy and all, but I just gave him $100 bucks, and poof, everything shuts down with no explanation? Can't just lock the door to Wal-Mart and not tell anyone why? I truly hope he is OK.
If anyone knows the inside story, please do share?
P.S....just tried to email him and my email FAILED
There is no problem with already placed orders/Please do not do a charge back money if you paid him as it completely gums up the works at this point. Like many Kratom vendors before him he is searching for new mechanisms for future payments. Will keep you updated.
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Re: SoulisticHerbs
THANK YOU so much swablero. I understand the problems in the industry. BUT...He REALLY should let people (customers) know what's goin on! We need to know what to do, and that our orders will (or will not) be processed, and how long of a delay if any? I don't mind waiting a bit, and am really sorry this happened to a good guy. BUT...There is a lot of good leaf out there right now, so just need some answers. I can guess what happened, and it's a shame. The powers that be just want to make it difficult (or impossible) to sell Kratom. So sad.
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Re: SoulisticHerbs
I’m part of there Facebook group. Seems there page is down? I can’t find it, I just posted something on there yesterday. Also sent an email that wouldn’t go through. Strange. Says the email account does not exist.
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Re: SoulisticHerbs
It seems like forever but it was only last night. After the shock, I think his efforts went immediately into figuring wtf exactly happened and what did it mean. The way i stated it was a bit of a simplification as it was all discovered a bit more incrementally over time. Of course I understand the concern. He is filling orders and all outstanding leaf will go out today and Monday, So all is cool with that. He's working on a mechanism for payments going forward.labdog03 wrote:THANK YOU so much swablero. I understand the problems in the industry. BUT...He REALLY should let people (customers) know what's goin on! We need to know what to do, and that our orders will (or will not) be processed, and how long of a delay if any? I don't mind waiting a bit, and am really sorry this happened to a good guy. BUT...There is a lot of good leaf out there right now, so just need some answers. I can guess what happened, and it's a shame. The powers that be just want to make it difficult (or impossible) to sell Kratom. So sad.
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Re: SoulisticHerbs
I dont know the details and thought process that led to these moves. But I know Soul is filling orders today and trying to figure out what's next. I imagine when your business' financial assets get frozen its a bit disorienting.Brad frerichs wrote:I’m part of there Facebook group. Seems there page is down? I can’t find it, I just posted something on there yesterday. Also sent an email that wouldn’t go through. Strange. Says the email account does not exist.