So here's to you kratom, you're alright.
(Not trying to bring up the argument of whether kratom counts as sober or not, you're entitled to your opinion)


I'm the same way. I still drink, but in moderation. Maybe 1-2 times a month. A far cry from where I was several years ago - drinking until I was on my ass every night. Ironically, the thing that got me off alcohol was the painkillers and anti-depressants my doctor prescribed me. They completely crushed my desire for alcohol. I then got off the painkillers/SSRI using kratom.Mythra Gina wrote:I myself continue with moderate drinking (as opposed to previous out of control drinking), but my intentions wasn´t quit (yet), but i can see what an accoplishment this is... burning one for ya !
I would consider it being sober since kratom doesn't mess with your state of mind and cognitive function the same way alcohol or hard drugs do. Kratom, for most, is still a much healthier alternative as long as it's taken responsibly. But yeah, I could see it up for debate in a way. Although, I have no desire to debate it lol.beathappening wrote:(Not trying to bring up the argument of whether kratom counts as sober or not, you're entitled to your opinion)

Haha that was my preferred mixture. Not specifically Valium and martinis but similar. Helluva combination to get off of, that's for sure. Back in the day things were different when it came to what was acceptable.BlendsAreMyFriends wrote:On the other hand I had a friend who's dad used to laugh and say that if it wasn't for his valium and his martinis he'd be on drugs too.