7-Hydroxymitragynine tablets vendor

[BallzDeep9]

I remember you calling me a "doper" a few years ago for using DG Botanicals because it's "strong leaf" and "must be laced with extract". Look who's the doper now

haha well, a lot was said "a few years ago" when the DG Fans (and shills) made all kind of silly claims ? That THEIR "strong Leaf" was stronger than anyone else's... Look who's "strong" NOW ?? There will never be ANY kratom product "stronger" than 7-Hydroxy pure isolated extract!

Years ago we didn't really HAVE ... quality Extract ? This herb had not been extracted, much? So the "Plain Leaf" vendors, with ZERO Lab Tests, claimed their "Magic Leaf" was better than other vendors'... and it got really, really, silly - EVEN when the Science, revealed the upper LIMIT to be - around 3% Total Alkaloids and 2% Mitragynine... a few vendors still made claims that their Raw Powder was worth 2X or 3X in cost ??

As far as "dopers", that generally refers to people from the Opioid, Heroin / Fent community... who wanted Kratom - in Recovery ? Those folks got very frustrated that Raw powder Leaf just isn't strong enough, even at 2% MIT - So they tried to compensate by choking down HUGE amounts, 20, 30, 50 gram per Day... which doesn't work because of the Ceiling Effect / Partial Agonist. Well now finally, we DO HAVE a product that's strong enough - for 7Oh "dopers" (Many now who never tried Kratom!) 7Oh is saving lives.

That's a BIG deal... I feel horrible for ALL those, who tried kratom, and then relapsed on Fent ... and overdosed.

[anonk]

It's only a matter of time until we see vendors offering analogs of 7-OH. For example MGM-16 is 240 times more potent than morphine, it's simply made from reacting Sodium borohydride with 10-fluoro-7-hydroxymitragynine https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6067406/

[Kelleytoons]

Mr. B takes far more than I do, but for a while there my consumption was pretty regular (due to my shoulder pain) at 8g per day (split into two doses). For a few weeks I tried Omega's strawberry tablet (my favorite of what they sell - great pain relief AND it helps me sleep, which is all I want when I'm in deep pain) and that upped my dose to about 10g per day (again, two doses).

Since I am scheduled for shoulder surgery I want to get off ALL stuff prior, so I stopped cold turkey a few days ago. I will admit - need to be honest - that it had a bit of a side effect in that I had a TON more energy, almost to the verge of feeling like I couldn't sit still. If I had a lot of things to do that would have been great, but since I was (mostly - because my wife and I are very old) at doctor's offices it wasn't a good look. I feel now like that's tapered off.

I cut up a ton of 7oh pills for use after my surgery (I usually use 1/4 of a tab of either the 20 or the 30) and that should get me through the deepest recovery. Note: I will be relying almost exclusively on this for pain relief since I'm basically immune to oxy and Vicodin nowadays (even upping the dose to a LOT has little effect on me anymore). Without 7oh I'd be in DEEP shit - which is the MAIN reason I say it might be good for EVERYONE to consider having these are valuable tools in your arsenal. Whether you take as much as Mr. B, or as little as the poster above (who is trying to get to 1g a dose) it's a VERY effective product that seems to have no tolerance issues (the only reason I went to the 30g versus the 20 is the 30 is the strawberry flavor and is SO much better tasting. Their 20 gram product reminds me of kratom in that it's a bitter aftertaste to me. Not as bad as kratom, but makes me drink a ton of fluid afterwards to get rid of the taste, whereas the strawberry one just dissolves great under my tongue with no need for anything else). Even after months of taking the stuff, though, a 1/4 tab is still just as powerful as it was the very first time I took it.

[pray4peace4]

From what I've read 7 hydroxymitraginine is 13 times stronger than morphine. Read that again. You guys are scaring me. I'm not touching that stuff.

[anonk]

Mr. B takes far more than I do, but for a while there my consumption was pretty regular (due to my shoulder pain) at 8g per day (split into two doses). For a few weeks I tried Omega's strawberry tablet (my favorite of what they sell - great pain relief AND it helps me sleep, which is all I want when I'm in deep pain) and that upped my dose to about 10g per day (again, two doses).

Since I am scheduled for shoulder surgery I want to get off ALL stuff prior, so I stopped cold turkey a few days ago. I will admit - need to be honest - that it had a bit of a side effect in that I had a TON more energy, almost to the verge of feeling like I couldn't sit still. If I had a lot of things to do that would have been great, but since I was (mostly - because my wife and I are very old) at doctor's offices it wasn't a good look. I feel now like that's tapered off.

I cut up a ton of 7oh pills for use after my surgery (I usually use 1/4 of a tab of either the 20 or the 30) and that should get me through the deepest recovery. Note: I will be relying almost exclusively on this for pain relief since I'm basically immune to oxy and Vicodin nowadays (even upping the dose to a LOT has little effect on me anymore). Without 7oh I'd be in DEEP shit - which is the MAIN reason I say it might be good for EVERYONE to consider having these are valuable tools in your arsenal. Whether you take as much as Mr. B, or as little as the poster above (who is trying to get to 1g a dose) it's a VERY effective product that seems to have no tolerance issues (the only reason I went to the 30g versus the 20 is the 30 is the strawberry flavor and is SO much better tasting. Their 20 gram product reminds me of kratom in that it's a bitter aftertaste to me. Not as bad as kratom, but makes me drink a ton of fluid afterwards to get rid of the taste, whereas the strawberry one just dissolves great under my tongue with no need for anything else). Even after months of taking the stuff, though, a 1/4 tab is still just as powerful as it was the very first time I took it.

So you didn't experience any w/ds, no trouble sleeping, no lethargy, rls, etc?

[oftheshire]

Mr. B takes far more than I do, but for a while there my consumption was pretty regular (due to my shoulder pain) at 8g per day (split into two doses). For a few weeks I tried Omega's strawberry tablet (my favorite of what they sell - great pain relief AND it helps me sleep, which is all I want when I'm in deep pain) and that upped my dose to about 10g per day (again, two doses).

Since I am scheduled for shoulder surgery I want to get off ALL stuff prior, so I stopped cold turkey a few days ago. I will admit - need to be honest - that it had a bit of a side effect in that I had a TON more energy, almost to the verge of feeling like I couldn't sit still. If I had a lot of things to do that would have been great, but since I was (mostly - because my wife and I are very old) at doctor's offices it wasn't a good look. I feel now like that's tapered off.

I cut up a ton of 7oh pills for use after my surgery (I usually use 1/4 of a tab of either the 20 or the 30) and that should get me through the deepest recovery. Note: I will be relying almost exclusively on this for pain relief since I'm basically immune to oxy and Vicodin nowadays (even upping the dose to a LOT has little effect on me anymore). Without 7oh I'd be in DEEP shit - which is the MAIN reason I say it might be good for EVERYONE to consider having these are valuable tools in your arsenal. Whether you take as much as Mr. B, or as little as the poster above (who is trying to get to 1g a dose) it's a VERY effective product that seems to have no tolerance issues (the only reason I went to the 30g versus the 20 is the 30 is the strawberry flavor and is SO much better tasting. Their 20 gram product reminds me of kratom in that it's a bitter aftertaste to me. Not as bad as kratom, but makes me drink a ton of fluid afterwards to get rid of the taste, whereas the strawberry one just dissolves great under my tongue with no need for anything else). Even after months of taking the stuff, though, a 1/4 tab is still just as powerful as it was the very first time I took it.

Interesting, I wonder if it’s cause you were using such a small amount. So no withdrawals for you beside being jittery?

[IndelibleDotInk]

When I used a small amount, under 5mg, I had no negative effects. It was like a small dose of (non-time released) oxycodone, 1/4 of a 30mg ish would be my comparison. No nodding, sleepiness, just energy and euphoria, glee. The danger, and what I did more than a few times with both drugs, was being inebriated and think it would be good to take more, and that could get hazardous.

[Kelleytoons]

So for the two that asked - I DO think my being "jittery" or "edgy" was indeed a withdrawal effect, since I've never felt anything like that in my life before and since it was consistent but started to subside as the days went on (well, at this point I'm nearly a week without anything without this occurring).

Let's talk about the levels and let me explore my journey - I started with 1/2 tablet of 20mg and it was WAY too strong. After some experimentation I settled on 1/4 tablet. As the weeks went on I ordered some different types/amounts (mostly because even at 1/4 that tablet was SO bitter I was drinking a lot of Propel afterwards to get rid of the taste and wanted something I could just take. The recommended way of using this is to let it dissolve under your tongue. I suspect if I just swallowed it it would be fine but I wanted to do it right).

Anyway, after trying a couple more of Omega's offerings I found their strawberry 30mg one the best for me - it's larger and easier to divide, so I started using 1/4 tablet once a day - sometimes twice if I was experiencing a lot of shoulder pain. Now it's hard to say exactly what DOSE that is because even Omega says you can't assume the 7oh is the same in each of their offerings, but let's at least think it's *around* 7.5 mgs per dose. So not more than 15 grams per day.

I can see how an addictive personality might well abuse this stuff. As I said, it doesn't have tolerance issues (it's just as strong now as the first day I ever took it) and has a LOT of the "feels". Might be the most pleasant "high" I've ever experienced in that I'm not dizzy or otherwise weird feeling but just very, very good (and the pain relief is excellent). So someone could easily end up taking it a lot more (although somewhat like kratom there is a "less is more" aspect. I find now the 1/4 tab is SO much better than even 1/2 a tab). I could see someone taking 30 grams per day pretty easily (again, since less is more taking more than that doesn't make much sense).

So I would say if you are a former alcoholic, or abuser of ANY drug you should stay away from this stuff. Otherwise - I don't see any harm whatsoever. I think due to my shoulder issues I was taking more than I will be doing after my surgery (well, after I'm fully recovered let's say) but otherwise I wouldn't be scared at all. I suspect I'll take it at least a few times a week mostly just for fun. YMMV of course and everyone needs to make up their own mind.

[Kelleytoons]

I'll put this in this thread rather than try and start too many 7oh threads on our kratom forums:

Just received my order of 30mg Strawberry tablets from Omega and... OMG, they scored the tablets BOTH WAYS. Making it super easy to cut them into quarters, which is how I take them.

It's almost like they knew exactly what I wanted - and a 1/4 tablet dose from this is perfect. Anyone thinking of trying 7oh really ought to try these (they also taste very good - some people don't like strawberry, but there is no aftertaste here so if you are dissolving 1/4 tab it takes about two minutes and then your mouth is just fine).

I just cut up around 80 quarters (20 tablets) for me to use after surgery and it only took a few minutes (I have a very nice metal pill cutter). No more uneven doses.

[anonk]

So for the two that asked - I DO think my being "jittery" or "edgy" was indeed a withdrawal effect, since I've never felt anything like that in my life before and since it was consistent but started to subside as the days went on (well, at this point I'm nearly a week without anything without this occurring).

Let's talk about the levels and let me explore my journey - I started with 1/2 tablet of 20mg and it was WAY too strong. After some experimentation I settled on 1/4 tablet. As the weeks went on I ordered some different types/amounts (mostly because even at 1/4 that tablet was SO bitter I was drinking a lot of Propel afterwards to get rid of the taste and wanted something I could just take. The recommended way of using this is to let it dissolve under your tongue. I suspect if I just swallowed it it would be fine but I wanted to do it right).

Anyway, after trying a couple more of Omega's offerings I found their strawberry 30mg one the best for me - it's larger and easier to divide, so I started using 1/4 tablet once a day - sometimes twice if I was experiencing a lot of shoulder pain. Now it's hard to say exactly what DOSE that is because even Omega says you can't assume the 7oh is the same in each of their offerings, but let's at least think it's *around* 7.5 mgs per dose. So not more than 15 grams per day.

I can see how an addictive personality might well abuse this stuff. As I said, it doesn't have tolerance issues (it's just as strong now as the first day I ever took it) and has a LOT of the "feels". Might be the most pleasant "high" I've ever experienced in that I'm not dizzy or otherwise weird feeling but just very, very good (and the pain relief is excellent). So someone could easily end up taking it a lot more (although somewhat like kratom there is a "less is more" aspect. I find now the 1/4 tab is SO much better than even 1/2 a tab). I could see someone taking 30 grams per day pretty easily (again, since less is more taking more than that doesn't make much sense).

So I would say if you are a former alcoholic, or abuser of ANY drug you should stay away from this stuff. Otherwise - I don't see any harm whatsoever. I think due to my shoulder issues I was taking more than I will be doing after my surgery (well, after I'm fully recovered let's say) but otherwise I wouldn't be scared at all. I suspect I'll take it at least a few times a week mostly just for fun. YMMV of course and everyone needs to make up their own mind.

Just to confirm your dosage so if others want to copy what your doing you take 7.5mg of 7-OH with 4g of leaf twice a day? And this is daily?

[BallzDeep9]

I'll put this in this thread rather than try and start too many 7oh threads on our kratom forums:

Just received my order of 30mg Strawberry tablets from Omega and... OMG, they scored the tablets BOTH WAYS. Making it super easy to cut them into quarters, which is how I take them.

It's almost like they knew exactly what I wanted - and a 1/4 tablet dose from this is perfect. Anyone thinking of trying 7oh really ought to try these

Yeah the 30mg Strawberry Tarts, are great, and reflect a general trend in the small but growing 7Oh industry... for stronger tabs. - Why, because it seems a good number of consumers are popping the tabs like skittles.. 100mg a day. Reports of 200mg a day, that's > 10 "Regular" tablets.

I wanted to share my own recent story about 7Oh dosage, and new products. I've been around the ½ Tab level, for months. That's ½ a "Regular" 7Oh Tab, the "Original" tablets were all below 20mg.. many 15mg, 18mg, each. Then it seemed like 20mg became the new Standard for a couple months... But NOW - after consumer demand - ALL vendors now offer stronger 30mg, 40mg, even 50mg tabs!.

So my own journey... I'm around ½ Tab, or about 7mg, to 9mg, once per day. Or less, skipping days... I also have Powder 7Oh and use a digital Milligram Scale to weigh the tiny scoop, 6mg to 8mg. Now along with 7Oh, I still enjoy a 1+ gram serving of TFH Kratom, maybe twice per day... So that's a Total 2.5 gram Kratom, or LESS... along with ½ Tab 7Oh.

I'm using the Test My Kratom - website. A good resource. I recently got the Omega Strawberry 30mg, and also Hydroxy RAW's new "Cinnamon Toast Crunch" flavor, 30mg... BOTH of those are Grade A on TMK's 3rd Party Lab testing grading. OK... and both tabs are scored in Quarters for easy splits. Good! Well yesterday I tried the RAW at ½ Tab so that's... about 14mg (All 7Oh tabs test out slightly LESS than advertised!) - and it was too much. I found myself "nodding out" getting very sleepy about 1 hour after consuming!

So I agree with Kelley - a Quarter Tab, of the 30mg tablets.. is about right. These quality 30mg's feel TWICE as strong... as the older 16mg, 20mg, tabs. Many 20mg's tested at much less. Link: Test My Kratom https://www.testmykratom.org/

[Kelleytoons]

Just to confirm your dosage so if others want to copy what your doing you take 7.5mg of 7-OH with 4g of leaf twice a day? And this is daily?

LOL - not sure if anyone should "copy" what I do in any aspect of life <g> but, yes, I WAS taking about 7.5mg of 7oh twice daily. Sometimes I took it with 2.5-3 grams of kratom, sometimes I didn't take kratom at all.

I did this for months until about a week ago but anyone wishing to copy me should know all the conditions for full disclosure: I have a really bad shoulder that is getting replaced on 4/22. It needs a "reverse" shoulder replacement because my rotator cuff is also completely shot. If you look up "Reverse Shoulder Replacements" you'll see how significant this is. And it's my dominant arm (of course) caused by WAY too much tennis through the years (and if I had known I was going to live this long I'd have taken much better care of myself).

My shoulder has been steadily deteriorating and prior to the start of this year I was only using 7oh on the weekends, perhaps once or twice as a treat. But as the shoulder continued to get bad (and, yes, I am still playing tennis. Because I'm old and because who knows how many more days of tennis I'll have left - there's a decent possibility that this RSR may put an end to my tennis) the pain got worse and worse so now my current regime (well, up until last week. I want to be completely off EVERYTHING, including kratom, because after surgery I want to use this stuff to help with the significant pain that will occur).

If someone is just getting started or even thinking about 7oh I'd say to start small and not take very often. Think of it as a treat and you'll be doing yourself a favor. And then you *can* try stopping and seeing what happens. I had a fairly rough two days because the "jitters" were making me nuts (I felt like I just needed to do stuff and unfortunately all that time I was in doctor's waiting rooms. Not a great place to pace up and down and want to move :>). I'm fine now, though, and that was a pretty steady diet of 7oh.

(And even fully disclosure - I bought some of the 50mg tablets Mr. B mentions and even 1/4 of these were WAY too strong. So now they are just sitting there - I might end up grinding them up and trying for a VERY tiny amount mixed in with kratom in a capsule. But that's a long term project and, hell, I might not even survive the surgery).

[Kelleytoons]

Oh and one more thing - even if you NEVER take 7oh recreationally it's a helluva nice thing to have in your house as a pain reliever in case of emergencies.

We used to have a TON of Vicodin for this. And then, gradually (as both my wife and I used it from time to time for our pains) it stopped working as opioids do. Same with Oxy - right now I can't even tell you how much we have (perhaps hundreds of 10mg pills as my wife takes it a couple of times daily still). It does almost nothing for me anymore, and yet it will be what my ortho will prescribe for my shoulder pain.

But - no worries. I have the absolute best pain relief there is, with a ton of 7oh to choose from (I've already cut up a hundred of so tablets into quarters so I have enough to last for at least three months of healing). I have absolute faith I'll be out of pain because, well, this stuff is amazing. AND you don't develop any tolerance - at least I didn't and I've heard the same for others. It's like the best thing ever invented and if there is even a slight possibility it will get banned in Florida I will buy up enough to last the rest of my (short) life.

[Sityice]

Some vendors are selling 160mg tablets. Can you imagine taking 160mg at once? I don't even know how you'd stay away, I'd instantly pass out. Also what does that say about their daily dosages? What are they taking thousands of mgs a day?

[BallzDeep9]

Some vendors are selling 160mg tablets. Can you imagine taking 160mg at once?

No. I can't imagine... that's Wonderland Gardens' new "Mocha" tabs ?? Crazy... they are #1 in the Powder category, but for Tabs... crazy. They were first to offer a 50mg Tab. "Banana" flavor lol

BUT ... kind of puts the LIE, to AKA's new position that "7OH is Dangerous" ?? when it's been 18+ Months, Zero overdose... Lots of addictions but that's true with Kratom, too. I just watched AKA's zoom call regarding Texas. 3 days ago. AKA is getting pressure from the "Big Money" vendors to throw 7OH under the bus.... Why ?? Because more and more, Consumers prefer a More Efficient Less Dirty... and More Effective product! ~ so this Industry, is... falling apart... All because of the Profiteers.

[Kelleytoons]

Yeah, I'm kinda pissed that Florida (apparently) will ban 7oh in July. Now - at my age I have enough to last a lifetime (MY lifetime :>) but I might buy a bit extra just in case I want to offer some to friends and family. But this sort of knee-jerk reaction reminds me of the early days of kratom.

Oh well, that's something for you kids to deal with.

[oftheshire]

Reading countless stories of people developing heart problems from short use of 7oh… too early to brush it off as dangerous solvents from lack of testing

[wolfman5874]

Reading countless stories of people developing heart problems from short use of 7oh… too early to brush it off as dangerous solvents from lack of testing

Have any sources? I have no doubt these solvents could be dangerous overtime but haven't seen any stories regarding this.

[oftheshire]

Reading countless stories of people developing heart problems from short use of 7oh… too early to brush it off as dangerous solvents from lack of testing

Have any sources? I have no doubt these solvents could be dangerous overtime but haven't seen any stories regarding this.

Yeah I just looked up “heart” in the quitting7oh page on Reddit. But yeah who knows

[Jpjpjp]

Hi everyone, I have been a kratom user for about 2 years now. I recently discovered the 7-Hydroxymitragynine tablets at a local smoke shop and was curious if anyone had any recommendations for online vendors for bulk orders?

Cheapest tabs I’ve found if your on a budget are these 100 20mg tabs for 135 or 148 if you want flavor
https://bulkkratomcapsules.com/?ref=Bkc10

[BallzDeep9]

Cheapest tabs I’ve found if your on a budget are these 100 20mg tabs for 135 or 148 if you want flavor

yeah LOTS of "popup" Vendors out there now... and "newbie" Retail 7OH products, too... Be Aware. Best TOOL is = Reddit! Knowledge Base (is what I call it. LOL)

Here ya go... LINK to - Reddit Search r/Hydroxmitragynine for "BKC" -- Oops!! Bad Quality issues... people saying their Tabs are like HALF as strong... and they had a famous Blue Dye problem, where the blue Razzberry tabs smeared BLUE on your hands and face...

[Blergs]

Is the 7oh comparable to a good extract? Mine gets here in a few days. I used to do 1/5 - 1/4 of an opms shot with my normal dose

I rec and do use a little bit of leaf powder and or full spec MIT extract powder with the 7oh. Even just 1-2g leaf.
Better longer effects vs just 7. I wouldn't even bother just 7-oh imo

[Blergs]

Cheapest tabs I’ve found if your on a budget are these 100 20mg tabs for 135 or 148 if you want flavor

yeah LOTS of "popup" Vendors out there now... and "newbie" Retail 7OH products, too... Be Aware. Best TOOL is = Reddit! Knowledge Base (is what I call it. LOL)

Here ya go... LINK to - Reddit Search r/Hydroxmitragynine for "BKC" -- Oops!! Bad Quality issues... people saying their Tabs are like HALF as strong... and they had a famous Blue Dye problem, where the blue Razzberry tabs smeared BLUE on your hands and face...

Most vendors seem to be pushing pesudo more now. I suspect that's where some complain re BKC, as they are intentionally or unintentionally using pesudo regularly.
Plus tab Makers using low % 7-oh powders to make tabs= more secondary alks

I generally avoid pesudo personally overall and been liking BKC tabs. Got 300 20mg tabs of red n blue razz (I rec red over blue flavor) , was happy and felt on point so bought another 1,000 more tabs (20mg Lemons) 2weeks later. Was special sale so stocked up.
Good deal n even cheaper with 10% off code.
I'm happy with em.
They don't use pesudo.
I always use a 1-2g leaf powder with 7oh too.

Re blue dye issue;
The blue myself tabs was them trying a different dye on a batch and it didn't work out.. so they went back to regular dye (blueberry extract they told me. And beet extract for the red) and sell that messed blue batch at discount.

[Blergs]

I understand the desire to eliminate the extraneous material in powder...but I also feel like the further you get from the plant, the more problems you may find yourself in. Like who gets strung out on coca leaf?

Dose cap dose control and PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY is key as with most things.
I use the same amount I've used months ago of 7.
There's a place for all.

And I do sometimes have some Coca leaf tea or scoop in cheek, I definitely don't have any refined cocaine tho. Aside from potential heart issues, it's mainly the cuts and additives that are the issue (fentanyl or meth for example) and the DIRTY process of extraction/isolation using sulfuric acid, gas n carosen etc.
So pretty much the war on drugs the main issue..
Plus it's not the same compound.
Is hash dangerous? Pure THC isolate? They all have a place.
Now if Coca was all legal in all forms then I may have the odd full spectrum extract. But that's because of its other compounds regarding that compound.
7-oh is less sides that leaf or full spec MIT extract in bigger doses. Not case with cocaine, other stuff aside I mentioned on it.

But again the TLDR;
Dose cap dose control and PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY (which means also research ofcourse).

Cheers

[MikeEdoessomething]

Cheapest tabs I’ve found if your on a budget are these 100 20mg tabs for 135 or 148 if you want flavor

yeah LOTS of "popup" Vendors out there now... and "newbie" Retail 7OH products, too... Be Aware. Best TOOL is = Reddit! Knowledge Base (is what I call it. LOL)

Here ya go... LINK to - Reddit Search r/Hydroxmitragynine for "BKC" -- Oops!! Bad Quality issues... people saying their Tabs are like HALF as strong... and they had a famous Blue Dye problem, where the blue Razzberry tabs smeared BLUE on your hands and face...

Most vendors seem to be pushing pesudo more now. I suspect that's where some complain re BKC, as they are intentionally or unintentionally using pesudo regularly.
Plus tab Makers using low % 7-oh powders to make tabs= more secondary alks

I generally avoid pesudo personally overall and been liking BKC tabs. Got 300 20mg tabs of red n blue razz (I rec red over blue flavor) , was happy and felt on point so bought another 1,000 more tabs (20mg Lemons) 2weeks later. Was special sale so stocked up.
Good deal n even cheaper with 10% off code.
I'm happy with em.
They don't use pesudo.
I always use a 1-2g leaf powder with 7oh too.

Re blue dye issue;
The blue myself tabs was them trying a different dye on a batch and it didn't work out.. so they went back to regular dye (blueberry extract they told me. And beet extract for the red) and sell that messed blue batch at discount.

Wow now that is a stockpile I wish I could afford, and I certainly want to have a stockpile around for the future for any pain related needs. Let me know if you want to sell/trade/swap a few of those tabs (I have a lot of plain leaf, just recently got into 7oh tabs but so far only tried 2 vendors for 7). I saw you mentioned using leaf since 2007? Curious who were the vendors back then and are any still around, or how was the quality of leaf when you started? Or you have any leaf from those early days/years? I started in 2015, and the oldest Kratom I've tried is from 2012 and 2013 that I got from a vendor in a trade (Herb Research and MMMspeciosa for those older vintage leaf I tried from 2012/2013). I have some 2013 Super Green Bali from a vendor called KratomExperience that looks like dirt but is just incredible ...The old vintage leaf was so, so, so, AMAZING (especially for pain relief, whereas todays leaf I feel is more energetic and mood boosting). I know prices were extremely high in the early days.

7oh (tabs, not powder, haven't tried any 7powder yet) has been extremely helpful for me, and especially my parents. No tolerance issues, no problems with plain leaf which works as good as usual for us. We use 7oh about 3-5 times a week (never more than 1 dose in a day of 7oh, unless an unusual pain emergency), and keep dosage at 5-10mg of 7oh (usually alongside a small dose of plain leaf, like you mentioned). Never gone higher than 10mg of 7 at one time (and don't see the need to go higher, 5-10mg works just wonderful).

We don't have addictive personalities (I should note, cause I can easily see how this product could be abused by someone who has history of addiction issues), so perhaps that is why 7oh hasn't been any issue for us. I have been hesitant to say anything on here until I had more time to use 7oh and see the results. After 3-4 months of use, 5-10mg per dose, about 3-5 times per week (only 1 dose per day max), the results have been remarkable for relief! I've been able to cut back my plain leaf daily dosage by up to 5grams or more most days I use 7oh (me and my parents use leaf almost solely for pain relief, and that's the main thing I care about, any of benefits are pure bonus lol)

I should also note that, at 5-10mg doses, I don't experience any euphoric effects, or any "high"/"buzz" and instead just get relief. But again that is all I really seek with Kratom so I'm not wanting to get those other effects.

[Jking]

Can’t go wrong with raws tablets, and wg had some good ones but they sold out. Ps is okay but they are not my favorite. Also bx has some great tablets

[mowgli]

Hey Kelly. I sent you a DM.

[Kelleytoons]

Um, no you did not (check my username - you might have left out the final "e" in my name Kelley).

[mowgli]

Now I did lol

[Kelleytoons]

Yup (it happens often. After more than half a century I just always spell my last name carefully whenever folks ask. Sigh).

[Mossy7]

That’s unfortunate because OmegaExtrax has been nothing but a positive experience for me. I’ve tried a few different vendors and OE far exceeds any other. They are more potent than other vendors which may be why you felt tired. Just take less. 10mg of OE is equivalent to about 20 mg of other vendors in effects.

[Mossy7]

I've been a kratom user for 10 years but I've been trying out the 7oh things lately. I'm not a fan of the omegaextrax.com. It took a while to get my order and I paid for faster shipping but I just don't care about how they make me feel. They just make me feel tired. My favorite is from https://7ohmz.com, I quarter them and drop of quarter of a tab into my blate pape with my powder. You don't need a pill splitter and they aren't flavored. They make you feel good without feeling like you want to take a nap. I also tried some from katom distro I think is the name but didn't care for them either. I like just kratom power on it's own the best but every now and then for a treat the ones I've gotten from https://7ohmz.com are my favorite by far. I've also take a whole pill if I'm out and can't get to my powder for many hours. They aren't too strong and don't feel like you've taken a narcotic at all. Pain pills have never been something I care for and only started taking kratom 10 years ago, for depression and low energy. So if you want to try them, do so but please use them sparingly.

That’s unfortunate because OmegaExtrax has been nothing but a positive experience for me. I’ve tried a few different vendors and OE far exceeds any other. They are more potent than other vendors which may be why you felt tired. Just take less. 10mg of OE is equivalent to about 20 mg of other vendors in effects.

[mivanqua]

Kelleytoons, does omega send their product in discreet packaging? I plan on making an order.

Box just says 'OE' for return address

And kelly, Omega does do testing, but they never post the solvent part of the test, only the potency part. Although I do use their products, as well as 7ohmitdistro, it is slightly disingenuous to only post PART of the testing and not the arguably most important part.

Also both kratom and 7ohm are both partial opioid agonists, which is shortened to 'opioid" most certainly to lump it in with the "opioid epidemic.'

I try to be cautious with the stuff and take it with about half of my kratom doses, but that is not always easy. It basically makes every dose feel like the first dose of some killer 2019 SOSA or something. It's not easy to keep the reigns on the stuff, so if that's your issue, THINK TWICE. That's the real truth.Only you know your needs and intentions, though, so don't take this as a warning against it, moreso a plea for consideration. It is necessary with 7ohm.

Also, as an aside, it's great to see another coca tea fan out there! coca tea is my very favorite of all. The fact that coca tea is illegal and so difficult to get just proves that they don't give a shit about us or our health. It's really really good for you besides being the best feeling ever, especially mixed with kratom and extract. Wow.

[Burninator]

Huh.. Interesting read, this thread. Not going to post all my thoughts…but I will say I’m glad I’ve unplugged from the Kratom community over the last couple years and just kept my head down with dry leaf. It seems like 7oh very well may be fucking the rest of us over in terms of legislation. But. What are you gonna do? I’ll echo a couple of other people’s sentiments that pushing it as a miracle drug everyone needs to try is a bit irresponsible.

[iamlurkerpro]

7-OH is a great, but is addicting like no other "kratom extract"in mainstream market as it is not one. If you have addictive personality, stay away from 7-OH, there is no "I got this, I wont get addicted" in it. I love it, but might take once a week or two and not touch at any other time. It being so freely available at gas stations etc is where the problem lies. I've heard of folks taking 80mg pills multiple times a day. That is a severe problem for them and anyone else who enjoys it. To each their own, but understand it is not kratom in anyway, it is a complete different monster and way way stronger. If you do not take it seriously, it will overtake you quickly and become a real severe problem. Anyone with addictive personality should probably NEVER try it. Just IMO.

[MetalMamaRocks]

7-OH is a great, but is addicting like no other "kratom extract"in mainstream market as it is not one. If you have addictive personality, stay away from 7-OH, there is no "I got this, I wont get addicted" in it. I love it, but might take once a week or two and not touch at any other time. It being so freely available at gas stations etc is where the problem lies. I've heard of folks taking 80mg pills multiple times a day. That is a severe problem for them and anyone else who enjoys it. To each their own, but understand it is not kratom in anyway, it is a complete different monster and way way stronger. If you do not take it seriously, it will overtake you quickly and become a real severe problem. Anyone with addictive personality should probably NEVER try it. Just IMO.

You're exactly right! I've seen people on the reddit quitting sub say they're taking 2000mg a day! They just kept upping their doses and now they can't get off it. I was taking 40mg a day and went through withdrawals when I stopped. I can't imagine what they are going through. Once or twice a week is probably fine but it shouldn't be taken every day.

[herbalhippie]

I just read through this whole thread, which I hadn't before. All I can say is.....

well then

Edit: I will say I'm a little concerned for some in that thread that haven't been around for a long time now though.

edit 2: I sent a PM

[Lokey]

Yes, me too. I developed a physical addiction in a very short time, experienced withdrawals I never experienced in my life. I took too much the very first time not realizing how strong it was and had to fight to not nod out for at least an hour, was afraid I wouldn't wake up. They were the strong mocha tabs from WG.

It affected my health adversely both mental and physical. Mentally I didn't care about anything, even taking care of my appearance and didn't want to work or pay bills, stuff like that, who does but worse, and socially withdrew more than usual. Physically I felt like it put a strain on my organs, just felt sicker and hair loss increased, and this was all within the 1st month. Due to experiencing the scary withdrawals I was able to quit. I was sad too because at first I thought it was a miracle because I have digestive problems and wanted to cut down on powder. I don't like drinking the tea, tried it a long time ago. I've taken opioids after medical procedures and I also loved those and if I was able to get more I would have but was never able to get more and never experienced withdrawals at all from those. It's sad what's happening to kratom now because of it.

[Mossy7]

I've been a kratom user for 10 years but I've been trying out the 7oh things lately. I'm not a fan of the omegaextrax.com. It took a while to get my order and I paid for faster shipping but I just don't care about how they make me feel. They just make me feel tired. My favorite is from https://7ohmz.com, I quarter them and drop of quarter of a tab into my blate pape with my powder. You don't need a pill splitter and they aren't flavored. They make you feel good without feeling like you want to take a nap. I also tried some from katom distro I think is the name but didn't care for them either. I like just kratom power on it's own the best but every now and then for a treat the ones I've gotten from https://7ohmz.com are my favorite by far. I've also take a whole pill if I'm out and can't get to my powder for many hours. They aren't too strong and don't feel like you've taken a narcotic at all. Pain pills have never been something I care for and only started taking kratom 10 years ago, for depression and low energy. So if you want to try them, do so but please use them sparingly.
I tried 7Ohmz based on your review and I am highly disappointed. OmegaExtrax is a million times better. 7Ohmz took 9 days to receive and I had no effects from their 14mg tab which I only took a quarter. It made me tired. A quarter of a 10mg from OmegaExtrax has me feeling just right and their shipping is much faster. So you must work for 7Ohmz or we’re paid to say that because it was the worst I’ve tried.

[Mossy7]

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I've been a kratom user for 10 years but I've been trying out the 7oh things lately. I'm not a fan of the omegaextrax.com. It took a while to get my order and I paid for faster shipping but I just don't care about how they make me feel. They just make me feel tired. My favorite is from https://7ohmz.com, I quarter them and drop of quarter of a tab into my blate pape with my powder. You don't need a pill splitter and they aren't flavored. They make you feel good without feeling like you want to take a nap. I also tried some from katom distro I think is the name but didn't care for them either. I like just kratom power on it's own the best but every now and then for a treat the ones I've gotten from https://7ohmz.com are my favorite by far. I've also take a whole pill if I'm out and can't get to my powder for many hours. They aren't too strong and don't feel like you've taken a narcotic at all. Pain pills have never been something I care for and only started taking kratom 10 years ago, for depression and low energy. So if you want to try them, do so but please use them sparingly.
I tried 7Ohmz based on your review and I am highly disappointed. OmegaExtrax is a million times better. 7Ohmz took 9 days to receive and I had no effects from their 14mg tab which I only took a quarter. It made me tired. A quarter of a 10mg from OmegaExtrax has me feeling just right and their shipping is much faster. So you must work for 7Ohmz or we’re paid to say that because it was the worst I’ve tried.

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I tried 7Ohmz based on your comment and I must say, I am highly disappointed. Omega extracts is a million times better. I took a quarter of a 14 mg tab and had no effects other than failing tired when I take a quarter of a 10 mg tab from omega the effects are just right and I feel lifted. Also, it took nine days to get my order from 7Omhz. You must’ve been paid to make that comment.