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Hello Double M family. I’m an experienced kratomite of 3 years only 1 of which has been enjoying quality small batch vendors such as TFH, BB, LOE, and others. I’ve been seeing a lot of hype about SmileyTime. I know every vendor is different and batches are determined by chemistry but I wanna know what his hit batches have been for y’all recently. I respond well to white for energy and u4ea, greens are a little more energy and focus than u4ea, and reds just plain knock me out. Can I get some recommendations so I can educate myself with my first purchase. Thanks

I second this!! Would love to know strongest/most sedating red and any euphoric reds.

Somebody, anybody ?

Noddyboi wrote:I second this!! Would love to know strongest/most sedating red and any euphoric reds.

I just posted this yesterday but I'd go for the OG red kali, assuming the batch is the same as it was 3 weeks ago. I've had great luck with that strain every time. March's wild red borneo is also a hit. His small batch strains I assume are the ones labeled (250 MAX) or (500 MAX) which is what i always go for.

tgodboyz wrote: TFH, BB, LOE, and others. I’ve been seeing a lot of hype about SmileyTime. I know every vendor is different and batches are determined by chemistry but I wanna know what his hit batches have been for y’all recently.

Fair question, because Smiley Time (aka STH) is a successful small vendor who really grew his business 2 years ago. Like most smaller guys, Smiley is really focused on quality and so... He imports from more Indo sources. His variety is more, than a tiny backpack'er who only imports from 1 source.

More variety = better chance of hitting a really super strong batch!! But also, having a weak batch here & there.. Of course a truly bad one Smiley would not sell. This whole business is driven by money $ and Smiley supports his Indo partners. The relationship is good. Most all kratom is a blended product, but Indo's know a higher % of old growth mature leaf = a Premium kratom. STH has legit reviews, from many customers on his Premium MD... I wish he'd bring back the MeWe Group.

Your example of BB and LOE is interesting... Did you know, BB and LOE both import from the same Indo? Yes the same guy.. high quality. Basically the same stuff.. of course USA vendors "hide source" but this is very common. Smiley's leaf is sold by other vendors, too!

The difference? hard to beat Smiley Time Customer Service!

BallzDeep9 wrote:

tgodboyz wrote: TFH, BB, LOE, and others. I’ve been seeing a lot of hype about SmileyTime. I know every vendor is different and batches are determined by chemistry but I wanna know what his hit batches have been for y’all recently.

Fair question, because Smiley Time (aka STH) is a successful small vendor who really grew his business 2 years ago. Like most smaller guys, Smiley is really focused on quality and so... He imports from more Indo sources. His variety is more, than a tiny backpack'er who only imports from 1 source.

More variety = better chance of hitting a really super strong batch!! But also, having a weak batch here & there.. Of course a truly bad one Smiley
would not sell. This whole business is driven by money $ and Smiley supports his Indo partners. The relationship is good. Most all kratom is a blended product, but Indo's know a higher % of old growth mature leaf = a Premium kratom. STH has legit reviews, from many customers on his Premium MD... I wish he'd bring back the MeWe Group.

Your example of BB and LOE is interesting... Did you know, BB and LOE both import from the same Indo? Yes the same guy.. high quality. Basically the same stuff.. of course USA vendors "hide source" but this is very common. Smiley's leaf is sold by other vendors, too!

The difference? hard to beat Smiley Time Customer Service!

I agree. He emailed back super fast and free shipping maaaan that’s a huge sell point for me.

Of all the vendors that I have tried from here at one time Smileys leaf blew me away the most. TFH has some gems of course and I was impressed with Benni,Sosa and few others but from July to late September last year just about everything that I got from him was a smash hit many of which were the best leaf I’ve ever had in my 5 years of using kratom. I haven’t had that same experience with any other vendors since. the Green Monster and PMD batches from August/2019 being some of the best leaf I’ve ever had period. Not sure if it’s a dry leaf season thing etc because I’m very diligent about keeping my tolerance in check but around November or so his leaf just wasn’t hitting like it did during that summer/early fall run. I haven’t tried anything recently but the standouts for me in the past were PMD, Green Monster, Green Smile, Wild Green Bota, Premium Green Thai and OG Green Kali.

Recently acquainted myself with Smiley Time and found some that work wonders for me personally.

White Hulu : Fantastic daytime **clean** energy and that feeling of exuberance

Red Smile: Just freaking awesome anytime red for me here. Certainly faster (for a red) with a GREAT mood boost. I say great because it is a notably fast onset of the "smile" instead well-being just creeping up on me.

Wild Red Borneo: another anytime red without the giggity-giggity of red smile- more so on the calming side that is, with steady-as-she-goes pain relief. This one IS more "well being" than pure "smile" if that makes sense...? By no means weak, just more subtle (which can be a good thing)

Red Sunda: This is my snooze strain and it gets the job done. Sometimes I do get too engrossed in reading and whatnot but it keeps me lazy enough to fall asleep. Worth noting, I am not terribly prone to sedation.

I've got "Secret Smile" and "Baik Bali" on deck for myself next and am quite excited!!

I've generally gotten good stuff from Smiley, but the last order was weird. I ordered it when he was doing his valentines sale I got PMD, Green Premium Thai, Og White Kali, and wild green sunda. For whatever reason these all hit me weird n in the same way. The pleasure/WD relief feels really nice but after a little like 2 hours after dosing I feel nothing. The thing that weird me out is the headaches it gives me. If I take like 4g+ or even if I dose like 2.5g n dont wait a full 5 hours in bt I get a stuffy headache, that I've never gotten from Kratom other than Smiley's.

Sometimes even 2.5 can be too much I can get nauseous n shaky although at that low dose usually no headache as long as they are far away enough. My avg dose is prob around 3-5g for other sources. I had an old bag from a diff vendor n took that for the 4 days it lasted me n I felt great compared to the previous month of that Smiley I didn't like, this was a red strain though so maybe that's related. Additionally I tapered down to 1g a day bc I was just really not enjoying it at all. Stayed at 1g 3x a day for 6 days then got off. My last dose was 10am on the 26 so it's been over 96 hours but I def still feel some WDs n usually if I've tapered this low (lower than I have ever done before) I get 1 2 days of WD max n then i feel totally normal.

Now I definitely know they're are extenuating circumstances that could be affecting this outside of the batch itself like stress from quarantine/restlessness, also that I get way way way less exercise n sunlight. But the headache thing n the dosing weirdness was going on way before this.

I'm not trying to scare people away or anything I've gotten a lotta great stuff for an awesome price from Smiley before. I'm just looking for advice n wondering if anyone has ever experienced anything similar.

Ordered from smiley time once. Felt nothing from his leaf, wanted a refund and was sent double of what I had ordered for free. Tried those strains and still felt nothing.

Really a shame

vesku88 wrote:Ordered from smiley time once.

We have over 10 suppliers and new batches every couple weeks so wouldn't hurt to email and ask for some free samples of some different or newer stuff. We have hundreds of customers that order weekly/monthly and we see a lot of notes/emails saying they love our products and that we are beating the competition with consistency. We have 80%+ return customer rate so a lot of people love our products.

Our leaf really can't be put into one category since we have many suppliers and such a large selection. It's all traial and error with everyone being different.

nerdy ninja wrote:Of all the vendors that I have tried from here at one time Smileys leaf blew me away the most.

Awesome to hear Some batches are better than others but We still have same suppliers since the beginning and they still work hard.

Klyded wrote:Recently acquainted myself with Smiley Time and found some that work wonders for me personally.

White Hulu : Fantastic daytime **clean** energy and that feeling of exuberance

Red Smile: Just freaking awesome anytime red for me here. Certainly faster (for a red) with a GREAT mood boost. I say great because it is a notably fast onset of the "smile" instead well-being just creeping up on me.

Wild Red Borneo: another anytime red without the giggity-giggity of red smile- more so on the calming side that is, with steady-as-she-goes pain relief. This one IS more "well being" than pure "smile" if that makes sense...? By no means weak, just more subtle (which can be a good thing)

Red Sunda: This is my snooze strain and it gets the job done. Sometimes I do get too engrossed in reading and whatnot but it keeps me lazy enough to fall asleep. Worth noting, I am not terribly prone to sedation.

I've got "Secret Smile" and "Baik Bali" on deck for myself next and am quite excited!!

Glad you like the recent quality. Cheers

STH wrote:

nerdy ninja wrote:Of all the vendors that I have tried from here at one time Smileys leaf blew me away the most.

Awesome to hear Some batches are better than others but We still have same suppliers since the beginning and they still work hard.

Some batches are better than others for sure but sometimes a break from a certain strain works wonders. The PMD wasn’t working for me for a bit and was baffled because it was a dry leaf season batch that had been absolutely fire before. Took a break from it for a couple weeks and tried it today and WOW. Funny thing is the very first couple of times I tried PMD when I became a member it didn’t do much for me. Kratom is a fickle animal at times and sometimes you just have to revisit certain strains or give them a break when it’s not hitting the marks for you as it did in the past.

Smiley is one of my go to vendors and have been taking him for over a year. Love his reds, yellows, & golds personally. Favorite reds include red glow, red smile, plantation red, red sandai (which hasn’t been in stock lately), red aceh & Red Sibau. I’ve had great luck with white banjo and white sandai (this was a faster white). I’ve heard great things about his greens like the ones mentioned in the other posts but greens for whatever reason don’t seem to work for me.

Looking forward to trying the Baik Bali, Prem White Thai, Pure White Glow and Thai MD. Its been a while. I'll post a short review after I give each a few tries.

guitartodd77 wrote:Looking forward to trying the Baik Bali, Prem White Thai, Pure White Glow and Thai MD. Its been a while. I'll post a short review after I give each a few tries.

Tried the Thai MD and loved it. One of my go to daytime strains!

Klyded wrote:Recently acquainted myself with Smiley Time and found some that work wonders for me personally.

White Hulu : Fantastic daytime **clean** energy and that feeling of exuberance

Red Smile: Just freaking awesome anytime red for me here. Certainly faster (for a red) with a GREAT mood boost. I say great because it is a notably fast onset of the "smile" instead well-being just creeping up on me.

Wild Red Borneo: another anytime red without the giggity-giggity of red smile- more so on the calming side that is, with steady-as-she-goes pain relief. This one IS more "well being" than pure "smile" if that makes sense...? By no means weak, just more subtle (which can be a good thing)

Red Sunda: This is my snooze strain and it gets the job done. Sometimes I do get too engrossed in reading and whatnot but it keeps me lazy enough to fall asleep. Worth noting, I am not terribly prone to sedation.

I've got "Secret Smile" and "Baik Bali" on deck for myself next and am quite excited!!

I wish there was a way to bookmark certain people so I can be alerted to more reviews from them because your reviews (of his red strains) match my experiences to a T! I also agree with his red Borneo being a bit more subtle than some other reds but not in a bad way.. although one of the best burns I've had in recent months was with that strain and it was very euphoric

Zeedra-
There may be an easier way to do this, but here is one way:
You can click on their profile page and "search users posts"
Alternatively:
Go to advanced search search.php
And then look for "Search by author" near the top.
It might be a little tedious but it would be one way to keep track

You can also click on their profile and click "add friend"
I'm not sure if you can be alerted to a particular users post, but you can get notifications to replies on a particular thread. A moderator would know better than me.

tgodboyz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:06 pm

BallzDeep9 wrote:

tgodboyz wrote: TFH, BB, LOE, and others. I’ve been seeing a lot of hype about SmileyTime. I know every vendor is different and batches are determined by chemistry but I wanna know what his hit batches have been for y’all recently.

Fair question, because Smiley Time (aka STH) is a successful small vendor who really grew his business 2 years ago. Like most smaller guys, Smiley is really focused on quality and so... He imports from more Indo sources. His variety is more, than a tiny backpack'er who only imports from 1 source.

More variety = better chance of hitting a really super strong batch!! But also, having a weak batch here & there.. Of course a truly bad one Smiley
would not sell. This whole business is driven by money $ and Smiley supports his Indo partners. The relationship is good. Most all kratom is a blended product, but Indo's know a higher % of old growth mature leaf = a Premium kratom. STH has legit reviews, from many customers on his Premium MD... I wish he'd bring back the MeWe Group.

Your example of BB and LOE is interesting... Did you know, BB and LOE both import from the same Indo? Yes the same guy.. high quality. Basically the same stuff.. of course USA vendors "hide source" but this is very common. Smiley's leaf is sold by other vendors, too!

The difference? hard to beat Smiley Time Customer Service!

I agree. He emailed back super fast and free shipping maaaan that’s a huge sell point for me.

He never answers me ...ever?!! Ive asked him 4+ times fir strain recommendations and he never answers! I just want to know his most sedating strains. Im a bad insomniac n can't fet a response to save my life

Red Bali and PMD from 2 years ago. Not a very timely recommendation, but those are the 2 I got (through a big Bennis order) and they both were a little above average to me, like would buy-again and I don't even care for reds very much, but that Red Bali was better than most (reds) I've tried. I think the PMD was a green, it felt like it I guess, but you know, 'colors' are all kinda made-up or whatever anyways.

Looks like they have acouple new blends, seem like they're going to be good.

Omega Sapphire (SuperGreen/Green/Yellow/White)
Omega Ruby Moon (Red/Gold/Green/Super Green)

xymoriintus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:18 pm Looks like they have acouple new blends, seem like they're going to be good.

Omega Sapphire (SuperGreen/Green/Yellow/White)
Omega Ruby Moon (Red/Gold/Green/Super Green)

Anyone have any feed back on these STH blends?
Omega Sapphire or the new Space Mountain? Any of the new mountain strains?