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Hello!

This is my first post here- thanks, e_poison, for making this forum!

I stumbled on this site (Kratomation.com) yesterday. It has a pretty extensive list of vendors. They can be rated, although it seems like either a fairly new site, or one that hasn't generated much posting activity.
I thought it might be useful to people here.

uhm, that url doesnt work......nor is there any google info for such a site.

Sorry- posted that wrong. It's Kratomaton.

Kratomaton has been around for awhile - it's very incomplete "We currently have 122 vendors in our database."

I have documented, currently over 250 vendors. So Kratomaton has less than half of all vendors, AND the other problem is they claim to be transparent - BUT they separate "Trusted Vendors" from all vendors... and how to become trusted?

You guessed it... vendors must PAY.

It's Kratomaton.com and he is actually one of the only sites that is honest from my experience. A lot of other review and kratom sites have contacted me and asked me for money for good reviews and other dishonest bullshit. Kratomaton is a newer website but I actually found them and asked how to become a "trusted vendor" (https://kratomaton.com/uncategorized/be ... ed-vendor/) I sent them free samples and even then they would not vouch for my quality or give me any trusted status. I had to get multiple reviews on Reddit with happy customers (thanks to the double M family Canadians for that!) before they started giving me trusted vendor stars. I can vouch for the honest practices of Kratomaton.com
That has been my experience.
Thanks,
Allan
http://www.KratomKingCanada.com

BallzDeep9 wrote:Kratomaton has been around for awhile - it's very incomplete "We currently have 122 vendors in our database."

I have documented, currently over 250 vendors. So Kratomaton has less than half of all vendors, AND the other problem is they claim to be transparent - BUT they separate "Trusted Vendors" from all vendors... and how to become trusted?

You guessed it... vendors must PAY.

No thats not true. I never heard of the site before I was linked to it and I was there. I wasnt a "trusted vendor" because they didnt know about my return policy or payment security. I emailed them and explained both and I became a trusted vendor. No further speaking, and certainly nothing was given to them. Where you getting this stuff?

.. certainly nothing was given to them. Where you getting this stuff?

I guess I looked on the site, there's a big Donate page. They're soliciting donations

They didn't do that for you.. so I stand corrected. But everything else is still true: regarding their Trusted Vendor Badge.

Their #1 category for being "Trusted" is a PPG ratio: ( price-per-gram ratio for ground kratom products should not be above 0.5 ) - Which is so WAY off base.. it's laugh able - So 50 cents PPG is reasonable? Even for Ounces, that's a ridiculous price. Nobody pays $14 per ounce for plain leaf powder. Maybe at a Retail shop? For a Quarter kilo, only the worst rip-off vendors sell for .50 cents ppg.

I contacted them last year, about this bullshit and got a Reply about maybe they need to re-calculate or review their number. Nothing about HOW they arrived at the stupid .50 cent ppg. Why do they think it's "Trusted" to sell kratom at .50 ppg ? That's not Trusted... that's a rip off.

For something funny .. look at their Trusted Vendors. You're right on top. Great!! But their other "Trusted" vendors seem to have problems .. two of those, have customer service complaints on Reddit. One is a convicted child molester. One's been out of business for months.

Look a LOT has changed over the past year.. I think maybe Kratomaton was somebody's project, a year ago? He hasn't updated in months .. except for you .. He's now at 127 vendors. I'm at 292, still in the game on Saidit - we're about to break 300 vendors - I probably could spend an hour and do that today

Another good idea project, is Kratings.com - same kind of thing - Good idea, wants donations, never got off the ground, now he's got several vendors Out of Business. No updates

BallzDeep9 wrote:

.. certainly nothing was given to them. Where you getting this stuff?

I guess I looked on the site, there's a big Donate page. They're soliciting donations

They didn't do that for you.. so I stand corrected. But everything else is still true: regarding their Trusted Vendor Badge.

Their #1 category for being "Trusted" is a PPG ratio: ( price-per-gram ratio for ground kratom products should not be above 0.5 ) - Which is so WAY off base.. it's laugh able - So 50 cents PPG is reasonable? Even for Ounces, that's a ridiculous price. Nobody pays $14 per ounce for plain leaf powder. Maybe at a Retail shop? For a Quarter kilo, only the worst rip-off vendors sell for .50 cents ppg.

I contacted them last year, about this bullshit and got a Reply about maybe they need to re-calculate or review their number. Nothing about HOW they arrived at the stupid .50 cent ppg. Why do they think it's "Trusted" to sell kratom at .50 ppg ? That's not Trusted... that's a rip off.

For something funny .. look at their Trusted Vendors. You're right on top. Great!! But their other "Trusted" vendors seem to have problems .. two of those, have customer service complaints on Reddit. One is a convicted child molester. One's been out of business for months.

Look a LOT has changed over the past year.. I think maybe Kratomaton was somebody's project, a year ago? He hasn't updated in months .. except for you .. He's now at 127 vendors. I'm at 292, still in the game on Saidit - we're about to break 300 vendors - I probably could spend an hour and do that today

Another good idea project, is Kratings.com - same kind of thing - Good idea, wants donations, never got off the ground, now he's got several vendors Out of Business. No updates

Are the Indonesian vendors less well vetted than the others? Where do I go to give reviews on my experiences with those vendors?