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I recently heard from a friend that a shop in Portland was giving away samples of this and they said it was crazy when they took it. Has anyone had any experience with these and even if not what are everyone's thoughts?
I'm a little nervous to try an all 7hydro product but I am absolutely curious.

They will absolutely nuke your tolerance, I don't find them very interesting, sedating with lots of pain relief if you need a such thing.

If ever there was a truly *legal high," this would probably be it. It will get the community in trouble most likely, either from some FDA "one killed in Tuscaloosa" incident this, either made up or some dumbass who takes ten "'cause tolerance" it doesn't matter much, it'll translate to good ammunition for a ban, whether it's related to plain leaf or isn't, which, aren't these pills synthetic? How could they NOT be? Average 7ohm in a kratom dose generally is around .0something...so FOURTEEN MG? Those pills would have to rival or even exceed black market equivalent if it was real.

ivanquamay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:17 pm If ever there was a truly *legal high," this would probably be it. It will get the community in trouble most likely, either from some FDA "one killed in Tuscaloosa" incident this, either made up or some dumbass who takes ten "'cause tolerance" it doesn't matter much, it'll translate to good ammunition for a ban, whether it's related to plain leaf or isn't, which, aren't these pills synthetic? How could they NOT be? Average 7ohm in a kratom dose generally is around .0something...so FOURTEEN MG? Those pills would have to rival or even exceed black market equivalent if it was real.

The way I understand it is they start off with a high MIT extract, oxidize the extract and then put it through another extraction with various solvents to get the 7-OH. My thing is and it’s the reason I don’t plan on trying it.. other than the price lol is what happens to the secondary alkaloids that are already more abundant because their starting with a high % extract when it’s oxidized and extracted even further? It’s not like these pills and powders are a 7-OH isolate, they could be creating Frankenstein alkaloids that they have no idea how it really interacts with the body. There’s not even enough research to 7-OH yet for me to feel confident in taking it, let alone the by products that could be created from the oxidation process