Herbapump delivery method by Herba Releaf?

[Anamcara]

Has anyone tried anything from herbapumps.com? Just stumbled onto their site yesterday and they have some sort dispenser for a mit 70 extract.

From their website:
“The Herbal-Mizer Technology works by protecting the Kratom molecule so that it is not destroyed by digestive enzymes. Further, it allows digestive tissue along the entire digestive tract, (from the mouth to the intestine) to efficiently absorb the Kratom molecule. Effects are felt in minutes and last for hours.”

[boureka]

I can comment on one sentence on their website that jumped out at me.."supplement can be rapidly absorbed through the stomach without degradation". I am under the impression that the only thing that may be absorbed in the stomach is water and even that only in small quantities.

[OriginalLHB]

I can comment on one sentence on their website that jumped out at me.."supplement can be rapidly absorbed through the stomach without degradation". I am under the impression that the only thing that may be absorbed in the stomach is water and even that only in small quantities.

I had a small bowel obstruction back in 2007, and I can assure you, no significant quantity of water is absorbed by the stomach. Almost killed me from dehydration.

[Anamcara]

Good catch. I thought the idea was that it should pass through the stomach without losing its properties and then be adsorbed in the gut. Maybe that’s what they meant. So “absorbed” was not a great word choice for what they were trying to convey. People making supplements should know the difference, so maybe this is a red flag.

[mivanqua]

So it's a...potentiator?

It does what grapefruit juice is supposed to do?

I've never noticed a length difference with grapefruit juice. Maybe though. I wonder about that sometimes. Sometimes it seems to really work and other times, not even a little.tiny bit.

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[boureka]

Also, I'm curious how you can feel the effects of kràtom within minutes.

[BallzDeep9]

So it's a...potentiator? It does what grapefruit juice is supposed to do?

NO. They're trying to supply a "Lipid Carrier" for Mitragynine - alkaloids which are NOT water soluble. . So it's a method of delivery.

This has been discussed in pharmacology for years... Let's say your drug is Lipid based. Not water based. So you can't swallow the pill with a glass of water, and then your stomach acids destroy the pill before it gets to your Gut - where it's absorbed. NO! You must protect the pill, inside a coating of Fat. A "Lipid Carrier" to transport your drug through the stomach... Nano drug delivery :: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.10 ... 0-3647-7_8

Kratom is NOT absorbed in the stomach... it's absorbed in the Gut. Intestines. Eating raw kratom, swallow with water ? "most" alkaloids get destroyed... (However, kratom is cheap so... just eat more ?) And... some folks have suggested "Eat a spoonful of Coconut Oil along with your Leaf" ... ever hear that?

I have NO idea, HOW this company has accomplished this (It's a rather expensive technology!)... We have to suspect, it's just another fake Marketing hype "angle" (Why? Because the Kratom business is chock FULL of fake, BS marketing promotions !) but... leave the door open, on small chance it's Legit ??

LINK = Lipid-based carriers for Food ingredients delivery

[mivanqua]

Cool Ballz, I had no idea about any of this stuff, thanks for sharing.

[Csharpe]

So it's a...potentiator? It does what grapefruit juice is supposed to do?

NO. They're trying to supply a "Lipid Carrier" for Mitragynine - alkaloids which are NOT water soluble. . So it's a method of delivery.

This has been discussed in pharmacology for years... Let's say your drug is Lipid based. Not water based. So you can't swallow the pill with a glass of water, and then your stomach acids destroy the pill before it gets to your Gut - where it's absorbed. NO! You must protect the pill, inside a coating of Fat. A "Lipid Carrier" to transport your drug through the stomach... Nano drug delivery :: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.10 ... 0-3647-7_8

Kratom is NOT absorbed in the stomach... it's absorbed in the Gut. Intestines. Eating raw kratom, swallow with water ? "most" alkaloids get destroyed... (However, kratom is cheap so... just eat more ?) And... some folks have suggested "Eat a spoonful of Coconut Oil along with your Leaf" ... ever hear that?

I have NO idea, HOW this company has accomplished this (It's a rather expensive technology!)... We have to suspect, it's just another fake Marketing hype "angle" (Why? Because the Kratom business is chock FULL of fake, BS marketing promotions !) but... leave the door open, on small chance it's Legit ??

LINK = Lipid-based carriers for Food ingredients delivery

I’m pretty sure It’s owned by Cory, the guy that used to run MBC. If I remember he had some pretty shady stuff and got caught falsifying labs. Maybe I’m not remembering correctly or he’s changed but I’d still go just a new marketing gimmick. It is interesting hopefully I’m wrong

[GrannyJ62]

I've tried the pumps they are amazing in fact it's what I've used all of last month no leaf at all here to say that they work just as well as leaf maybe better as it hits quicker and are super convenient the only problem is the cost I really can't afford it.They really do live up to everything they promised.

[Loveandpeace]

I've tried the pumps they are amazing in fact it's what I've used all of last month no leaf at all here to say that they work just as well as leaf maybe better as it hits quicker and are super convenient the only problem is the cost I really can't afford it.They really do live up to everything they promised.

Whoa!! I am shocked by this last minute testimonial. If it wasn't doublem, I would not believe a word!! Amazing!

[Badgame85]

I've tried the pumps they are amazing in fact it's what I've used all of last month no leaf at all here to say that they work just as well as leaf maybe better as it hits quicker and are super convenient the only problem is the cost I really can't afford it.They really do live up to everything they promised.

Whoa!! I am shocked by this last minute testimonial. If it wasn't doublem, I would not believe a word!! Amazing!

Right? This is the type of review I was looking for. Can't find any "legitimate" testimonials on these and they most definitely are crazy expensive. Anyone else ever dabbled in these?

[Kelleytoons]

I'm trying to figure out what the draw here is, though. If kratom is working for you (no matter how you consume it) then this is better because it's... quicker? Operates immediately? Except - how the hell can it operate any faster than your stomach can absorb it?

And, besides, for those of you taking it as leaf - does 15 minutes or so really matter? I mean, even when I take capsules I get the effects in an hour. I feel absolutely ZERO urgency to have it any sooner (of course, I'm retired so I'm on a different time scale than most of you). It certainly isn't cost effective - plus I would doubt that it would continue to work without you getting tolerance issues (you sure as hell aren't going to get any different "batches").

I think it's a scam. And sorry, to the guy who said it was great, but I have a feeling that was mostly a placebo effect. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind trying this.