Which SIDE are you ON?!?

[Indo_gmp]

Which SIDE are you ON???
Consuming Adulterated Kratom or Consuming Natural Kratom?
This thread is inspired from Gumbyke thread :

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2931

So let’s start this thread by giving 2 options and Let’s see what Kratom users tend to consume.
Some people that have been in Kratom industries have known that thousand tons of Kratom have been sent from Indonesia to United States every month. Most of them are sent with 20 and 40 feet containers. And the rest are sent by air cargo and express shippment such as DHL, UPS, Aramexm etc.

Mostly, Kratom sent with containers will go to factories and be processed to be extract product, and it is processed into adulterated kratom product. I have no idea how is the effect of it since we can’t find any of it. We consume only the natural product and we do aware and know how it feels and the sensation of natural product. It does taste bitter but we got used to it already.

We’ve read several facts that adulterated kratom products have been “laced” with something else that may be or may not be in Kratom plant. And several plants have been laced with synthetic compounds that may be or may not be harmful for human body.
It is different case from consuming natural kratom. It also has risk that may be harmful. WHY Natural may be harmful too?

At the beginning paragraph, we just said that this thread was inspired by Gumbyke Thread. If you have read the thread you will know the reason.




Up to now, there’s perhaps just a few Indo Suppliers that process their natural kratom with good and acceptable ways and Only one supplier that produce natural kratom with Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP), and it is very limited. If you saw several pics that have been posted, you will realize how it processed and you all consume it without knowing how it’s made and it has some risks to get contaminated and absolutely it’s harmful too.

I have written lots of words in my blog about the truth of Kratom Industry in Indonesia. I do realize it can be controversial for some vendors or maybe users, but it is not only about revealing the truth but also saving Indonesia Kratom in the future,

Please kindly visit these blog topics,
I devide this blog into two (2) parts, here they are;

https://www.indogmp.com/behind-the-scen ... -industry/
https://www.indogmp.com/behind-the-scen ... ry-part-2/

[Kelleytoons]

This is one of the reasons I trust TFH - they control their supply like no other. They compose around 80% of my rotation (of around 110 different batches) so I'm pretty confident I'm okay.

For the other vendors I trust I just believe they also get their supply from smaller places that do not adulterate. But it's less certain, for sure. OTOH - if you knew how the food industry in America (assuming you live here) works, you wouldn't eat ANY processed food (and damn little of the so called "pure" foods like those sold in the produce department). The food industry is just about as bad as Big Pharma, in different ways. Trying to worry about that will just drive you to an early grave. The same is truth for most local water supplies. Again, worrying about this sort of thing is kind of pointless - either you accept that a lot of what you consume is going to have bad stuff in it but if it doesn't kill you it makes you stronger, or you go live in some commune somewhere you can grow all your own food, using no pesticides and no fertilizer. (And good luck with that).

Now - what you postulate about adulteration is one of the reasons I would NEVER buy from the so-called "bulk" vendors. Because the odds are MUCH worse there. So just another argument for sticking with the smaller guys as much as possible.

[Indo_gmp]

This is one of the reasons I trust TFH - they control their supply like no other. They compose around 80% of my rotation (of around 110 different batches) so I'm pretty confident I'm okay.

For the other vendors I trust I just believe they also get their supply from smaller places that do not adulterate. But it's less certain, for sure. OTOH - if you knew how the food industry in America (assuming you live here) works, you wouldn't eat ANY processed food (and damn little of the so called "pure" foods like those sold in the produce department). The food industry is just about as bad as Big Pharma, in different ways. Trying to worry about that will just drive you to an early grave. The same is truth for most local water supplies. Again, worrying about this sort of thing is kind of pointless - either you accept that a lot of what you consume is going to have bad stuff in it but if it doesn't kill you it makes you stronger, or you go live in some commune somewhere you can grow all your own food, using no pesticides and no fertilizer. (And good luck with that).

Now - what you postulate about adulteration is one of the reasons I would NEVER buy from the so-called "bulk" vendors. Because the odds are MUCH worse there. So just another argument for sticking with the smaller guys as much as possible.

I posted this thread in one of the FB Kratom groups, and who attacked me doesn't come from kratom users, lol, but from Indonesia Vendors themselves, lol.
for some years, we've been educating some farmer groups to manage and process their stuffs well, in fact, it is not easy as we thought. So We educate our own farmer group, yet the impact is that We just could supply some tons of GMP Certified products (powder).

Sometimes we can't just put blame on them (irresponsible farmers) since the demand from US (mostly) comes from Non Spec Order, and the price of it (of course) will not be good enough.

[jrose100]

Thank you for the info this is very interesting!

[Indo_gmp]

Thank you for the info this is very interesting!

My pleasure,.

[jrose100]

I also get my leaf from smaller private vendors who I know aren't messing with the leaf. Sry I haven't been on I've been a bit under the weather.