USA Kratom Vendors: FALL 2021 vetted Vendor List!

[HeatherLelane]

What.... did I miss??? I log off for a couple months and no denette on the list??? And is LSMS even there?

[BundyMcDiggyDoodles]

Your list are always super helpful. Greatly appreciated.

[onespeedstop]

Hopefully the list continues to get updates in 2022, even if it's just reposting the last one saying "Spring 2022" ha-ha. It's a GREAT resource for beginners, and even intermediates coming here from other sites.

[BallzDeep9]

Hopefully the list continues to get updates in 2022,

Thanks. You're reading my mind. Time for a Spring update, there's still > 200 vendors "active" ?? There's the problem.

Vendor starts NEW business!! yaay. Imports his first load... that was 2018. . Now 4 years, OR maybe 4 months later... - Vendor lost a shipment, ran OUT of the "popular strains" (Those got cherry picked!), and has very LOW stock of average strains... Indo Suppliers are sketchy... Phone keeps ringing, it's a fast talking Salesman from some USA Wholesale Distributor, promising great quality off a 40 TON boat load of cheap Bulk... BUT! Website hosting IS cheap! So... vendor leaves his website up. Keeps taking orders & filling 'em with whatever...

See the problem. Between the "old" vendors who have gone stale - SVS, Stale Vendor Syndrome - to the many new Popup vendors who have no experience dealing w/ Indo ?? It's gotten more & more difficult to verify who's a solid vendor with current fresh Re-Stock... and nearly impossible to verify who's re-selling the "Red & Green Bulk" (re-named with fancy names of course), and the exact SOURCE -- this wasn't an issue 3 years ago, when most all vendors were Direct Import.

EDIT - A little over the top. Frustrating and time consuming to get "Whats Happening" with some vendors...

[IndelibleDotInk]

As others have pointed out, Koality is on break or done.

Sacred Son is kaput.

[IjustFeltLikeRunnin’]

As others have pointed out, Koality is on break or done.

Sacred Son is kaput.

Pretty sure Galactic Botanicals is no more as well.

[onespeedstop]

See the problem. Between the "old" vendors who have gone stale - SVS, Stale Vendor Syndrome - to the many new Popup vendors who have no experience dealing w/ Indo ?? It's gotten more & more difficult to verify who's a solid vendor with current fresh Re-Stock... and nearly impossible to verify who's re-selling the "Red & Green Bulk" (re-named with fancy names of course), and the exact SOURCE -- this wasn't an issue 3 years ago, when most all vendors were Direct Import.

Well, I mean, it doesn't have to be perfect-perfect. I think if enough people are having issues with a vendor then it's maybe time to remove them. And unless a new vendor is willing to send you a couple samples and/or they have some legit reviews here, then they don't get on it. Being on the list is good advertising, it should have to be earned a little bit, and maintained. I don't think vendors should have to pay to be on it, but if a new vendor won't send 50 grams of his/her 3 best strains (cost of what, maybe $10 for the kratom with 1st class shipping) then they aren't to be taken seriously anyways. Nobody gets a review in a magazine or even on a yootoob video without showing the product, letting someone who has experience test it etc.

A list with 10-12 solid-current vendors is better than nothing, if that's what it ends up being for now.

[BallzDeep9]

As others have pointed out, Koality is on break or done. // Sacred Son is kaput.

Pretty sure Galactic Botanicals is no more as well.

Last week hippie & I were remembering: Speciosa Life - he lasted maybe 6 months? Good guy, he's still around - just, had invested a lot, & found out it wasn't worth his time & had other opportunity ... Galactic was like, 1 or 2 loads from Indo, then done ? Same with Koality... And they actually invested $ in a "website".

Hey a guy must have, at least a Group (FB or MeWe) or something. That costs nothing. YouTube channel ? I would NOT buy from any Email vendor so I can't refer others to someone that sketchy - Nobody has any exclusive on Suppliers - Every single Indo supplier, has multiple USA vendors selling their leaf.

Long time vendors: Herbaldom, has been "mostly Out of Stock", for 1+ year. Big Announcement like 2 years ago, was invested in new Warehouse, blah blah.. now Lab reports on website OVER a year old - Fell hard for the whole Facebook thing about Labs & cGMP - which is very expensive. Put out a Video about his new "Clean Room" and GMP facility. Maybe thinking, that's what buyers wanted ?? Sorry.

NEW - Philly Kratom "Your Leaf Your Life" has a very interesting Menu. IN-House Enhanced products. Crushed Leaf blends, lots more...

[CatfatherB]

As others have pointed out, Koality is on break or done. // Sacred Son is kaput.

Pretty sure Galactic Botanicals is no more as well.

Last week hippie & I were remembering: Speciosa Life - he lasted maybe 6 months? Good guy, he's still around - just, had invested a lot, & found out it wasn't worth his time & had other opportunity ... Galactic was like, 1 or 2 loads from Indo, then done ? Same with Koality... And they actually invested $ in a "website".

Hey a guy must have, at least a Group (FB or MeWe) or something. That costs nothing. YouTube channel ? I would NOT buy from any Email vendor so I can't refer others to someone that sketchy - Nobody has any exclusive on Suppliers - Every single Indo supplier, has multiple USA vendors selling their leaf.

Long time vendors: Herbaldom, has been "mostly Out of Stock", for 1+ year. Big Announcement like 2 years ago, was invested in new Warehouse, blah blah.. now Lab reports on website OVER a year old - Fell hard for the whole Facebook thing about Labs & cGMP - which is very expensive. Put out a Video about his new "Clean Room" and GMP facility. Maybe thinking, that's what buyers wanted ?? Sorry.

NEW - Philly Kratom "Your Leaf Your Life" has a very interesting Menu. IN-House Enhanced products. Crushed Leaf blends, lots more...

Philly is also selling the remaining bulk of what SOSA had left at a discounted price, he's been a long time member of the community and would be a great replacement on your vendor list.

[mivanqua]

So we've heard I'll let everyone know tonight when mine arrives if it's Baik.

[herbalhippie]

So we've heard I'll let everyone know tonight when mine arrives if it's Baik.

Which batch is it supposed to be? Also, both my batches look like green flour they're so finely ground.

[mivanqua]

"Late fall/winter 2019," which encompasses the 8-19 batch. The one a certain someone sent me for back is a LIIIIITLE bit coarse. Looks like plenty of bones in there, which I think is SOSAs secret. Just a guess though, and in the interest of full disclosure, I'm wrong a LOT!!.

Did Ben FORGET about all of this? He just went "elsewhere" end of last year right? Legendary batches left to rot in some storage locker.....WAIT A MINUTE!!!! Haha! Either it is or it isn't and my taste buds picked Baik out in a twelve strain blind test, it's part of me. Hahaha!
I want to believe it's true but I can't say I'm not sceptical. Worst case, out 120. Best case, I have a new vendor? F@#$ it!!

If I lose this bet, it will be MORE THAN PAID FOR by the endless generosity the folks right here in this community have shown me over these soon to be four years.

Either way, if it comes on schedule or even if it doesn't, when it does come, EVERYONE will know because I'm editing this very comment. I can't say the suspense isn't killing me.

Edit : I believe it's the real thing having compared burn and how it looks. and slightly sweet taste.

[herbalhippie]

"Late fall/winter 2019," which encompasses the 8-19 batch. The one a certain someone sent me for back is a LIIIIITLE bit coarse. Looks like plenty of bones in there, which I think is SOSAs secret. Just a guess though, and in the interest of full disclosure, I'm wrong a LOT!!.

Coarse huh? Hmm, I'll have another look.

Is all this stuff coming in Sosa bags or what?

[Jking]

Alright had to change this post a couple times. So is the discounted kratom the Sosa kratom? I’ve never tried Sosa but would like to. I don’t know what to get I was thinking the red bail, and white mang dang any suggestions?

[CatfatherB]

you have to look at the description, lab test says it was tested in July of 2019, SOSA's first baik Bali came out August of 2019... that would imply what Philly's selling is the original Baik Bali

[herbalhippie]

you have to look at the description, lab test says it was tested in July of 2019, SOSA's first baik Bali came out August of 2019... that would imply what Philly's selling is the original Baik Bali

Mine are dated 8/19 and 9/19

[mivanqua]

"Late fall/winter 2019," which encompasses the 8-19 batch. The one a certain someone sent me for back is a LIIIIITLE bit coarse. Looks like plenty of bones in there, which I think is SOSAs secret. Just a guess though, and in the interest of full disclosure, I'm wrong a LOT!!.

Coarse huh? Hmm, I'll have another look.

Is all this stuff coming in Sosa bags or what?

Just a little bit if you look closely. There are dark and light patches in it. To me it looks a little bit coarse. Its in sealed plastic bags..I'll upload a pic.

https://ibb.co/wpm8Nsg

[BallzDeep9]

Philly is also selling the remaining bulk of what SOSA had left at a discounted price, he's been a long time member of the community and would be a great replacement on your vendor list.

Yep. Good idea. Philly aka Your Leaf Your Life, will appear on the new Spring 22 Vendor List... we're also eliminating Private vendors. The List has always been, about helping newbies find top quality kratom, from reliable vendors who operate websites. Some of the "Micro Vendors" who are frequently out of stock... don't have any kratom... and Private vendors for whatever reason... Not available, not helpful for many new folks who just want a couple of Legit vendor websites.

And nobody hangs out in MeWe chat rooms anymore, that's been dead for a year at least ??

[NiqueKristan]

Philly is also selling the remaining bulk of what SOSA had left at a discounted price, he's been a long time member of the community and would be a great replacement on your vendor list.

Yep. Good idea. Philly aka Your Leaf Your Life, will appear on the new Spring 22 Vendor List... we're also eliminating Private vendors. The List has always been, about helping newbies find top quality kratom, from reliable vendors who operate websites. Some of the "Micro Vendors" who are frequently out of stock... don't have any kratom... and Private vendors for whatever reason... Not available, not helpful for many new folks who just want a couple of Legit vendor websites.

And nobody hangs out in MeWe chat rooms anymore, that's been dead for a year at least ??

I think that’s a good idea- maybe the ones that are members only can get an honorable mention? Will STH still be on the list, considering that anyone who applies gets in relatively quickly?

[Loveandpeace]

Philly is also selling the remaining bulk of what SOSA had left at a discounted price, he's been a long time member of the community and would be a great replacement on your vendor list.

Yep. Good idea. Philly aka Your Leaf Your Life, will appear on the new Spring 22 Vendor List... we're also eliminating Private vendors. The List has always been, about helping newbies find top quality kratom, from reliable vendors who operate websites. Some of the "Micro Vendors" who are frequently out of stock... don't have any kratom... and Private vendors for whatever reason... Not available, not helpful for many new folks who just want a couple of Legit vendor websites.

And nobody hangs out in MeWe chat rooms anymore, that's been dead for a year at least ??

Hi,

I just ordered some of those extracts, Ballz. I received the 'Pepper' and 2 others. They say that their extracts are done in house with Apple Cider Vinegar and fresh fruit. Totally got me intrigued and they were $10.

Anyway, all of that big talk because I am scared af to switch my daily powder routine.Do not epect a review any time soon. I have ONLY heard bad things about extracts. When people say that it will "fuck up your tolerance", that is hyperbole, correct? I am highly experienced with every thing, the ups and downs. The word 'fuck' implies that it is irreversible. No such thing, right?

Also, I ordered some of the honey sticks and taffy too. The price is right and if you are wondering, powder slides right of the bowl of the spoons they sell too.

Take this part of this post in mind - I have yet to try any leaf from them. The website has some fun products and legit copy to boot. I am curious about the SOSA connection as well. I am definitely checking back on this thread.

[Loveandpeace]

So we've heard I'll let everyone know tonight when mine arrives if it's Baik.

Please do, friend

[mivanqua]

So we've heard I'll let everyone know tonight when mine arrives if it's Baik.

Please do, friend

I believe that it is the real deal. Got that taste, that feel. I would go for it for sure.

[IndelibleDotInk]

mewe isn't as busy as before, but there are rooms that are a-hoppin.

[Jking]

Well I don’t know about the mewe before but people still use from what I seen for certain groups. I really need to try yourLeafyourlife but I still wouldn’t go for their extracts but whatever its not I think they are not doing their best but the reason people hear bad things bout extracts is because most are bad, I recently checked, and now they are offering an extract from Indonesia which is fine but they just have no information, and vary to much in price which is already high to be a feasible options for extracts. In my opinion we should have a list just for extracts. The problem is off the top of my head I can only think of two websites that deserve a place on a list for extracts. Also to note both these places while having great extracts I wouldn’t buy leaf from them but would from philly so everyone has there strengths.

[WhiteAngelica]

"Late fall/winter 2019," which encompasses the 8-19 batch. The one a certain someone sent me for back is a LIIIIITLE bit coarse. Looks like plenty of bones in there, which I think is SOSAs secret. Just a guess though, and in the interest of full disclosure, I'm wrong a LOT!!.

Did Ben FORGET about all of this? He just went "elsewhere" end of last year right? Legendary batches left to rot in some storage locker.....WAIT A MINUTE!!!! Haha! Either it is or it isn't and my taste buds picked Baik out in a twelve strain blind test, it's part of me. Hahaha!
I want to believe it's true but I can't say I'm not sceptical. Worst case, out 120. Best case, I have a new vendor? F@#$ it!!

If I lose this bet, it will be MORE THAN PAID FOR by the endless generosity the folks right here in this community have shown me over these soon to be four years.

Either way, if it comes on schedule or even if it doesn't, when it does come, EVERYONE will know because I'm editing this very comment. I can't say the suspense isn't killing me.

Edit : I believe it's the real thing having compared burn and how it looks. and slightly sweet taste.

Ben went to jail. His mom has passed the remaining stash to YLYL where it is sold at discount. The proceeds go to his mom.

[Lokey]

Thank you for this amazing service!
There are some that I am so sad they went off the list, especially Koality who had THE BEST Kratom, before they went dark. I also still love Bennis. But I trust your judgement. What a crazy landscape this is.

I was disappointed Benni's wasn't on this list but I think there's a brand new list he is on?

[Kelleytoons]

we're also eliminating Private vendors. The List has always been, about helping newbies find top quality kratom, from reliable vendors who operate websites. Some of the "Micro Vendors" who are frequently out of stock... don't have any kratom... and Private vendors for whatever reason... Not available, not helpful for many new folks who just want a couple of Legit vendor websites.

Yes, I agree 100%. That's why I was very pleased to see you split the list into those vendors without membership requirements. Folks who get more experience (or even just hang out here) can find the membership vendors they like and work to get accepted (I was very pleased to get on denette's because he's my favorite membership one. Well, outside of TFH which I will *never* get on so I don't even worry about it anymore). And if some very small person gets a stellar batch in we can alert each other. But folks first coming into the Kratom arena need a properly vetted list where they can buy easily and that list is definitely it (right now Treasure House and Okie's are my favs for those).

I only wish I had known about the list when *I* first started (would have saved me both money and frustration with what I bought).

[BallzDeep9]

I was disappointed Benni's wasn't on this list but I think there's a brand new list he is on?

Vendors come and go... Run OUT of stock - Or, import a "Bad Load" of Leaf . which can set them back for months - Reports on MM and "Reviews" from <> 1 year ago, that Benni had somehow an overstock of Very Average kratom, in addition to, having his stock cherry picked - Fire strains replaced with Not-so fire - Credit him, with reviving his business, cleaning out the old, and bringing IN the new! Fresh Nugroz re-stock!!

Benni's doing some UNIQUE things on his website - Strains List page, shows Mitra% in a handy table, for ALL products.. Not sure how that solves the cherry pickin' problem lol... I'm going right to his Green Goddess at 1.78% or, his Super Green at 1.93% - But it's great for consumers!! And that's what the List is all about. Benni still has TEN way split kilos too. LINK - Strains List - https://bennibotanicals.com/strains-list/

[mivanqua]

Mostly sold out except for the Cafe Maeng Da and some whites right now. The issue happened recently I'm assuming?

[BallzDeep9]

Oh. - Well, "good idea" anyway... lol. . Not real practical. I'm definitely not clicking on each "strain" of each vendor showing 67 "strains" or whatever X 30 vendors... I'd be clicking and checking for days & days... and of course, nobody''s gonna Review all 2000 "strains" for sale. Gets pretty ridiculous?

Benni's got a fresh Re-stock of 4 good Greens from Nugroz - appears he dumped all the old Average leaf (Low Mitra%) so... Good for him!!

[mivanqua]

Oh. - Well, "good idea" anyway... lol. . Not real practical. I'm definitely not clicking on each "strain" of each vendor showing 67 "strains" or whatever X 30 vendors... I'd be clicking and checking for days & days... and of course, nobody''s gonna Review all 2000 "strains" for sale. Gets pretty ridiculous?

Benni's got a fresh Re-stock of 4 good Greens from Nugroz - appears he dumped all the old Average leaf (Low Mitra%) so... Good for him!!

So yeah it was recent. Just curious. There will always be a soft spot in my heart for Bennis, I got my first SOSA & KOG from him way back, remember when he sold mostly other people's leaf, like Sourced By Masochista? Slowly started adding his own stuff in...I still have a sample of his first "Bennis" Red Bali laying around somewhere from that order.

And no, who has time for all that, I just hopped over there real quick and noticed that is all. Thanks again for doing the list, awesome resource.

[krit-krat]

mewe isn't as busy as before, but there are rooms that are a-hoppin.

I have trouble navigating mewe. It's very strangely layed out.

[Lokey]

mewe isn't as busy as before, but there are rooms that are a-hoppin.

I have trouble navigating mewe. It's very strangely layed out.

Me too, and Saidit and Discord also. I joined Mewe for HeavenLeaf and Discord for Benni's and someone replied to me and I could never find it

[e_poison]

Since the newer vendor list is now available, I’m going to go ahead and lock this thread since it’s outdated and keeps getting bumped.

Feel free to continue the discussion in the newer post - viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10113