Double M Herbals | Kratom Forum

Hi All,

I am a lurker of a few months and this is my first post, which isn’t directly about kratom, but seems kratom-related, so hopefully okay to post here.

Had anyone tried an herb called Stephania Japonica? I saw it on a vendor site and decided to get a sample. Then I came here searching for info because I thought I had heard someone mention it. Turns out I was confusing it with a different “J” word —Javanica.

So now I have 5 grams of a 20:1 extract of Japonica. It’s a reddish brown powder that tastes a bit like celery if you sprinkled sugar on it.

Does anyone have an idea of how to dose this? Or, if no one has used it, perhaps someone could tell me a little about kratom extract dosing and I could use that as a model.

With Kratom, I generally go with one 7 gram dose of powdered leaf in the morning. I’ve never used extracts and I’m confused about how to measure them. If you have a 20:1 extract and you want it to have the same effect as 7 grams of powder, how much would you take?

Thanks!

Japonica can refer to many different plants! There are so many plants that have "japonica" in their names. Like, there's camellia japonica (related to camellia sinensis which accounts for most tea leaves iirc), anemone japonica (which can potentially harm you if consumed), I think wasabi might also come from something-or-other japonica. It's used to denote that the plant came from Japan (though not all Japanese native plants include that in their names, oddly).

Though the site you ordered from specifies Stephania, which looks to be an ivy of some kind and can be made into jelly from what I dug up during a cursory search, I dunno, I feel like if it was all that beneficial it would be more widely known beyond "sometimes people in India make it into jelly". It's not at all related to kratom so I'd be surprised if it does much of anything for you, but at least you know it isn't harmful.

Thanks for your reply. I didn’t find anything about making jelly when I searched, so that’s interesting. Maybe that’s because I was not clicking on pages about gardening and only looking at pages that seemed medicinal. And there is just nothing there.

Speaking of a sinensis plants, I have tried Incarvella sinensis. It was like a very mild kratom, not great, but possibly useful for getting through non-kratom days.