Coronavirus discussion

[herbalhippie]

What about people that had Covid and then got vaxxed and boosted.

I can hope.

[KalieGirl]

I will not dignify your insults with a response. Your comments speak for themselves. Keep spreading hatred and anger towards things you don’t understand or refuse to see. I hope you have a blessed life and wish no ill will towards you but I’m not interested in assassinating someone’s character whom I have never met over a dissenting opinion on a current pandemic which is becoming endemic for which the science is unsettled and still evolving.

https://brownstone.org/articles/79-rese ... nd-quoted/

[herbalhippie]

Does the Brownstone Institute produce reasoned arguments or propaganda? We report, you decide.

https://angrybearblog.com/2021/09/does- ... you-decide

New Institute Has Ties to the Great Barrington Declaration

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-re ... ives/95601

The Great Barrington Declaration

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Bar ... eclaration

I have no opinion to state on these links.

[Lokey]

Does the Brownstone Institute produce reasoned arguments or propaganda? We report, you decide.

https://angrybearblog.com/2021/09/does- ... you-decide

Brownstone Institute is rated right-biased
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/brownsto ... tute-bias/

[herbalhippie]

Does the Brownstone Institute produce reasoned arguments or propaganda? We report, you decide.

https://angrybearblog.com/2021/09/does- ... you-decide

Brownstone Institute is rated right-biased
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/brownsto ... tute-bias/

I added a couple more links.

[KalieGirl]

Does the Brownstone Institute produce reasoned arguments or propaganda? We report, you decide.

https://angrybearblog.com/2021/09/does- ... you-decide

Brownstone Institute is rated right-biased
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/brownsto ... tute-bias/

Right biased left biased whichever, exactly which of the 140 studies in the report is factually incorrect?

[KalieGirl]

Does the Brownstone Institute produce reasoned arguments or propaganda? We report, you decide.

https://angrybearblog.com/2021/09/does- ... you-decide

Brownstone Institute is rated right-biased
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/brownsto ... tute-bias/

Perhaps it is prudent to check the bias and fact check the media-bias-fact-checkers?

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bi ... -dishonest

[brave777]

I just want to point out, there is many or tons of stories on bitchute, where when people came to do PCR tests and signed their names, when they had to leave fast for emergency reasons with out doing tests, they still got mailed they got tested positive, and some got mailed they tested negative. This kind of stuff people should be looking into. There is just way to many things that dont add up with PCR tests. When this all started , was very convincing, even i had thoughts about getting tested. Lets get real already.

I did buy DR Zelenko pills, which all 4 main things your body needs. I gave to some very sick people that needed and in less then 3 days they got better, coincidence or not i had two people who got better in less then an hour, but this my protocol. I came up with this...

You can use and see results on your face. Please see your doctor first abut this combo. ESPECIALLY IF YOUR ON MEDS.

1. I used 4 pills of potent sea weed.
https://getthetea.com/shop/potentsea-sea-vegetables/

2. 2 pills of Z stack.
https://zstacklife.com/

3. Brewed a cup of chamomiles with raw honey added.

I witnessed the cough disappear or lessened in less then 30 min, and after one hour they fell asleep, waking up having no cough or only sometimes a little when slept good. You can always repeat to make it disappear for good. Chamomiles relaxes you and helps with nerves, calming you down from not being able to fall asleep , this combo you will have no choice but to want sleep, you will want too. If can, drink 2 cups of chamomile, the more the better, faster fall asleep. Results in less then an hour, witnessed in 2 people. I really hope, you all never get sick because watching sick people coughing their lungs out is very depressive. I would feel very guilty if they died and i knew i could of helped my friend but did nothing. And i sure dont want them on ventilators not able to see them or not allowed. I am not a doctor so contact your doctor to see if that would work for you, maybe they will have same ingredients whats in Z stack if in emergency.

Edit: Dont forget to add sleepy red your favrotire kratom. If you know they use kratom, you can add that, but thats just optional. I recommend not giving them if they never tried it, even if its sleepy kratom at low dose it can make a person stay awake all night.

[IjustFeltLikeRunnin’]

What about people that had Covid and then got vaxxed and boosted.

I can hope.

From a lot of things I’ve seen and read, natural immunity coupled with at least even one dose of a vaccine produces a very desirable antibody response:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8008743/

The antibody titers of vaccinees with preexisting immunity were 10 to 45 times as high as those of vaccinees without preexisting immunity at the same time points after the first vaccine dose (e.g., 25 times as high at 13 to 16 days) and also exceeded the median antibody titers measured in participants without preexisting immunity after the second vaccine dose by more than a factor of 6. Although the antibody titers of the vaccinees without preexisting immunity increased by a factor of 3 after the second vaccine dose, no increase in antibody titers was observed in the Covid-19 survivors who received the second vaccine dose. No substantial difference was noted in the dynamics of antibody responses elicited by the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines after the first dose (Fig. S1).

While it is safe to say that any kind of exposure to the COVID-19 virus will elicit an immune response, and some sort of lingering protection. Studies are varying in time frames and also have low numbers of participants able to be followed up on over these periods of time.


But they show an immune response present ranging from 60 days:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947a2.htm


To 1 year:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8656217/

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... unity.html


But there are also studies indicating that some people, for varying reasons, just don’t create the necessary antibodies after a natural infection:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8386781/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-26479-2

So these people would be under the impression that they are protected through “natural immunity” when they, in fact, are not.


But this also got me curious as to whether these so-called non seroconverters would respond to and create antibodies if they received the vaccine?

It’s getting late, and I wasn’t finding what I was looking for pertaining specifically to this topic. So if anyone finds any insight, let me know!

[KalieGirl]

Ijustfeltlikerunnin thank you for your comments and input. This is the type of conversation and dialogue I was hoping could happen in a public forum. It is interesting indeed that some covid recovered did not illicit an antibody response. I have read there is much more to immunity than just antibodies such as memory T cells, etc. I will look for the scientific articles I read before on virology and immunology regarding antibodies, T cells and other immune cells regulation and response to prior infection. Was very interesting! I hope I saved it.

[SeventhHeaven]

I posted something about this a little while back, but with the Omicron variant now here - apparently more easily spread, but also less virulent (milder) - I think I should post it again.

Black Cumin seeds and raw honey were shown in a study to be VERY effective against COVID-19, even in the later stage of the disease.

Here's a doctor's video on YouTube about the study in Pakistan where they used the seeds and raw honey successfully for COVID-19 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOwa6-EOohI

I bought my black cumin (Nigella Sativa) seeds from Amazon, but if you have a local food co-op or health food store you should be able to find it there. I bought my raw honey from a vat in a good supermarket. Be sure to get GROUND Nigella Sativa seeds. On Amazon I bought "MB Herbals Black Cumin Seed Powder 227 Gram (8 oz) Nigella sativa Powder", because it was very highly rated.

Incidentally, a few weeks ago someone I know on another forum was in her second day of being really sick with COVID (she tested positive), and she was getting scared. Low oxygen (80s), trouble breathing when laying down, so not sleeping. I told her about the seeds and raw honey, and she sent her husband out to get them (they even had a local bee keeper for the honey). Two days later she was healthy again. Pretty amazing, and it's no wonder people in places like India eat the seeds regularly They say the seeds "heal everything but death".

The video explains the dosage they used in the study, but essentially it's this - and I mix it in hot water

For a 200lb person, per day - do the math for your own weight
7.2 grams of ground Nigella Sativa (2.5 teaspoons)
3.2 ounces of raw honey (6 tablespoons)

I've also been sprinkling the Black Cumin seeds on food that I eat - I'm getting to actually like the taste! It can't hurt, and both the seeds and raw honey are known to be good for health AND have known antiviral properties.

[KalieGirl]

SeventhHeaven- where did you purchase your seeds? I am going to buy some today.

[StringThing]

I will not dignify your insults with a response. Your comments speak for themselves. Keep spreading hatred and anger towards things you don’t understand or refuse to see. I hope you have a blessed life and wish no ill will towards you but I’m not interested in assassinating someone’s character whom I have never met over a dissenting opinion on a current pandemic which is becoming endemic for which the science is unsettled and still evolving.

https://brownstone.org/articles/79-rese ... nd-quoted/

I'm just calling a spade a spade. Informed people are vaccinated + boosted by this point.

[StringThing]

I posted something about this a little while back, but with the Omicron variant now here - apparently more easily spread, but also less virulent (milder) - I think I should post it again.

Black Cumin seeds and raw honey were shown in a study to be VERY effective against COVID-19, even in the later stage of the disease.

Here's a doctor's video on YouTube about the study in Pakistan where they used the seeds and raw honey successfully for COVID-19 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOwa6-EOohI

I bought my black cumin (Nigella Sativa) seeds from Amazon, but if you have a local food co-op or health food store you should be able to find it there. I bought my raw honey from a vat in a good supermarket. Be sure to get GROUND Nigella Sativa seeds. On Amazon I bought "MB Herbals Black Cumin Seed Powder 227 Gram (8 oz) Nigella sativa Powder", because it was very highly rated.

Incidentally, a few weeks ago someone I know on another forum was in her second day of being really sick with COVID (she tested positive), and she was getting scared. Low oxygen (80s), trouble breathing when laying down, so not sleeping. I told her about the seeds and raw honey, and she sent her husband out to get them (they even had a local bee keeper for the honey). Two days later she was healthy again. Pretty amazing, and it's no wonder people in places like India eat the seeds regularly They say the seeds "heal everything but death".

The video explains the dosage they used in the study, but essentially it's this - and I mix it in hot water

For a 200lb person, per day - do the math for your own weight
7.2 grams of ground Nigella Sativa (2.5 teaspoons)
3.2 ounces of raw honey (6 tablespoons)

I've also been sprinkling the Black Cumin seeds on food that I eat - I'm getting to actually like the taste! It can't hurt, and both the seeds and raw honey are known to be good for health AND have known antiviral properties.

This has not been proven effective against COVID-19.

This study is done by a private medical school in Pakistan that occupies a single building.

It is not peer reviewed in any medical journal, it has just been posted online.

It was done alongside 'standard medical care,' completely invalidating any results because they don't actually bother to say what other drugs patients took, there could be all kinds of variation.

Have no idea why they cut off any patients who were hospitalized longer than 14 days or limited the subjects of their study to ~300 people from a single hospital in Pakistan. Lahore is a city of 11 million, they couldn't find some more hospitals to look at?

It's oddly focused on symptom reduction in terms of days, which is just a baffling metric. They didn't actually measure antibodies or anything lol.

They also list themselves as their own review board which is just plain hilarious.

Genuinely, I don't understand why you'd believe anything this study says. It is so poorly done. Funded by some NGO.

This is how statistics are used to manipulate. Studies like this right here. This is correlation, not causation. And it's a very loose correlation at that.

[CatfatherB]

eh, black cumin seeds will wreck my burns. I like kratom too much to try all that. I sure ain't getting a shot and any endless boosters, y'all have at it.

[KalieGirl]

eh, black cumin seeds will wreck my burns. I like kratom too much to try all that. I sure ain't getting a shot and any endless boosters, y'all have at it.

How does it effect burns? Have you any personal experience with this? My thoughts are that the seeds most likely have some good health benefits whether or not they have any benefit with covid. I take other vitamins and supplements and was thinking of adding them into my regimen.

[KalieGirl]

Interesting read

18 reasons the author chooses not to be vaccinated
https://www.deconstructingconventional. ... id-vaccine

17 more reasons
https://www.deconstructingconventional. ... id-vaccine

Before attacking the the site/source/author etc. as “anti-vaxx misinformation” please take the time to actually READ the articles and view the links provided by the author. I am not saying I agree or disagree with all the content but I did find some of the information interesting.

[SeventhHeaven]

Black Cumin seeds and raw honey were shown in a study to be VERY effective against COVID-19, even in the later stage of the disease.

This has not been proven effective against COVID-19.

Study or not, it DID cure someone I know.

And study or not, people in India and elsewhere "over there" have been using black cumin seeds for centuries to cure all kinds of illnesses, which is why it's a common saying that "Black cumin seeds cure everything but death". And raw honey also has known anti-viral properties.

Hey, I couldn't care less whether you choose to use it or have it available or not - that's your choice, just as it's my choice to have it on hand just in case. I will never get a clot shot, I will use things - like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine - which have saved the lives of many, many people.

THAT is my choice

[StringThing]

Black Cumin seeds and raw honey were shown in a study to be VERY effective against COVID-19, even in the later stage of the disease.

This has not been proven effective against COVID-19.

Study or not, it DID cure someone I know.

And study or not, people in India and elsewhere "over there" have been using black cumin seeds for centuries to cure all kinds of illnesses, which is why it's a common saying that "Black cumin seeds cure everything but death". And raw honey also has known anti-viral properties.

Hey, I couldn't care less whether you choose to use it or have it available or not - that's your choice, just as it's my choice to have it on hand just in case. I will never get a clot shot, I will use things - like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine - which have saved the lives of many, many people.

THAT is my choice

Yes, you are free to make poor decisions.

[herbalhippie]

Black Cumin seeds and raw honey were shown in a study to be VERY effective against COVID-19, even in the later stage of the disease.

This has not been proven effective against COVID-19.

Study or not, it DID cure someone I know.

Correlation does not imply causation. I took fire cider and elderberry and I got better.

Would I have gotten better anyway without those things? I am 100% sure I would have.

Getting better as the course of a disease runs and 'cured' is not exactly the same thing.

[SeventhHeaven]

True, and as I said, we all should be able to make our own choices. All I tried to do was offer something that helped someone I know who tested positive for COVID-19, whose oxygen saturation was in the 80s, and who couldn't lie down for two days because she couldn't breathe. And who - after only two days of Nigella Sativa seeds and raw honey - was healthy and normal again. I also know a number of people who got very sick with covid, and three who died.

I don't understand why offering something that MAY help others and that's extremely inexpensive has to be so controversial here. I don't ridicule you guys for getting your shots, that's YOUR choice. My choice is simply different. I've been on forums since before the Mosaic browser existed, and virtually all of them allow differing opinions, I guess I'm just used to that.

From here on in I won't speak my opinion on anything other than kratom. After all, that's why I came here in the first place.

[KalieGirl]

True, and as I said, we all should be able to make our own choices. All I tried to do was offer something that helped someone I know who tested positive for COVID-19, whose oxygen saturation was in the 80s, and who couldn't lie down for two days because she couldn't breathe. And who - after only two days of Nigella Sativa seeds and raw honey - was healthy and normal again. I also know a number of people who got very sick with covid, and three who died.

I don't understand why offering something that MAY help others and that's extremely inexpensive has to be so controversial here. I don't ridicule you guys for getting your shots, that's YOUR choice. My choice is simply different. I've been on forums since before the Mosaic browser existed, and virtually all of them allow differing opinions, I guess I'm just used to that.

From here on in I won't speak my opinion on anything other than kratom. After all, that's why I came here in the first place.

I for one appreciate your input and this thread is for coronavirus discussion not bullying and belittling other people who have a different perspective than you thread. Or at least that’s what I thought it was.
We bring value to the discussion. The loudest voices are not always the correct ones

[herbalhippie]

Michigan doctors, nurses report violence, hostility amid COVID-19 surge

https://archive.ph/c673m

[KalieGirl]

Michigan doctors, nurses report violence, hostility amid COVID-19 surge

https://archive.ph/c673m

From the article:

Peters noted a 2019 survey from the American Nurses Association indicated 59% of nurses nationally reported being verbally assaulted by a patient and 25% had been physically assaulted by a patient in the course of the last year.

And that’s before the pandemic. Is it any wonder people’s nerves are frayed after almost 2 years of dealing with covid?

[CatfatherB]

eh, black cumin seeds will wreck my burns. I like kratom too much to try all that. I sure ain't getting a shot and any endless boosters, y'all have at it.

How does it effect burns? Have you any personal experience with this? My thoughts are that the seeds most likely have some good health benefits whether or not they have any benefit with covid. I take other vitamins and supplements and was thinking of adding them into my regimen.

black cumin seeds inhibit the enzymes needed to convert mitragynine to 7 ohm mitragynine, some say it's a potentiater but it would just take the system longer to eliminate mitragynine from your body.

since I started kratom in the fall of '17 I haven't even had a case of the sniffles, could just be a coincidence, idk either way at least by me not taking any shots I still have a 100% chance of not having adverse reaction to the vaccine and a 98-99% chance of beating covid. I'm good, thanks

[KalieGirl]

Thanks for the info Catfather! I appreciate your comments as I would hate to wreck my burns.

[herbalhippie]

True, and as I said, we all should be able to make our own choices. All I tried to do was offer something that helped someone I know who tested positive for COVID-19, whose oxygen saturation was in the 80s, and who couldn't lie down for two days because she couldn't breathe. And who - after only two days of Nigella Sativa seeds and raw honey - was healthy and normal again. I also know a number of people who got very sick with covid, and three who died.

I don't understand why offering something that MAY help others and that's extremely inexpensive has to be so controversial here. I don't ridicule you guys for getting your shots, that's YOUR choice. My choice is simply different. I've been on forums since before the Mosaic browser existed, and virtually all of them allow differing opinions, I guess I'm just used to that.

I'm not against possibly preventative supplements, I take them myself. I just ask that you be careful using the word 'cure'.

People hear the word 'cure' enough then they're staying home with a pulse ox in the 80%s when they should be in the emergency room getting treatment. Apparently your friend got very lucky.

[WhiteAngelica]

Has anyone in this thread lost family or loved ones to Covid? It radically changes your worldview. It radically changes the fabric of who you are. I want to see more comments about memorializing the lost. I'm in a support group for friends and family, and the politicizing of Covid has sent loved ones deeper down the rabbit hole. Grief is hard enough. Despite the mass amount of collective grief US shares in common, we surviving family members are barely keeping it together. There is no end in sight, and therefore no closure in sight. We feel invisible, and the stories are too much to bear. Last Christmas, a parent posted with a picture of her mantle. She had stockings hung for her children and presents under the tree. Her 16 year old boy had shockingly died of Covid, right before the holidays and despite going through it, I could never imagine that. There are so many families with children who lost, more often than not, a father and the single parent can't afford to swing the mortgage or their previous standard of living. These kids had gone through so much trauma and pain, had to pack up their childhood home and the memories they shared with their father within, and move into cramped apartments, possibly changing school districts. It is too much. It is too heavy.

I am immunocompromised, so I could get the vax. My partner is SEVERELY immunocompromised and hasn't left the house since the beginning of the pandemic. She has to depend on everyone else to get the shot for her to safely see physicians without putting her life at further risk. It had just reached a point where we thought it might be safe for her, and Omnicron came to town. I'm in New York State. My county is absolutely riddled with new cases. I know I won't die from it (even though I'm not yet eligible for a booster) but I could easily catch the variant and give it to my partner. I leave the house practically wearing a chernobyl anti-radiation lead-clad armor, and it may not seem practical. But it is. You lose someone, and it becomes a different, more private pandemic experience that I don't expect others to understand.

If you are interested in sending your sympathy to individuals and families who lost a loved one, you can volunteer on Marked By Covid. I think they are hard up for volunteers this year, as we've become so desensitized to it. I received those cards once, and put every one in a scrapbook. I look over them, again and again, whenever I feel like our lost have been forgotten. More than a number, they are.

Be safe, everyone. Take heart.

[WhiteAngelica]

Has anyone in this thread lost family or loved ones to Covid? It radically changes your worldview. It radically changes the fabric of who you are. I want to see more comments about memorializing the lost. I'm in a support group for friends and family, and the politicizing of Covid has sent loved ones deeper down the rabbit hole. Grief is hard enough. Despite the mass amount of collective grief US shares in common, we surviving family members are barely keeping it together. There is no end in sight, and therefore no closure in sight. We feel invisible, and the stories are too much to bear. Last Christmas, a parent posted with a picture of her mantle. She had stockings hung for her children and presents under the tree. Her 16 year old boy had shockingly died of Covid, right before the holidays and despite going through it, I could never imagine that. There are so many families with children who lost, more often than not, a father and the single parent can't afford to swing the mortgage or their previous standard of living. These kids had gone through so much trauma and pain, had to pack up their childhood home and the memories they shared with their father within, and move into cramped apartments, possibly changing school districts. It is too much. It is too heavy.

I am immunocompromised, so I could get the vax. My partner is SEVERELY immunocompromised and hasn't left the house since the beginning of the pandemic. She has to depend on everyone else to get the shot for her to safely see physicians without putting her life at further risk. It had just reached a point where we thought it might be safe for her, and Omnicron came to town. I'm in New York State. My county is absolutely riddled with new cases. I know I won't die from it (even though I'm not yet eligible for a booster) but I could easily catch the variant and give it to my partner. I leave the house practically wearing a chernobyl anti-radiation lead-clad armor, and it may not seem practical. But it is. You lose someone, and it becomes a different, more private pandemic experience that I don't expect others to understand.

If you are interested in sending your sympathy to individuals and families who lost a loved one, you can volunteer on Marked By Covid. I think they are hard up for volunteers this year, as we've become so desensitized to it. I received those cards once, and put every one in a scrapbook. I look over them, again and again, whenever I feel like our lost have been forgotten. More than a number, they are.

Be safe, everyone. Take heart.

I should not have read any of the comments. I could cry. Then again, I do anyway.

[brave777]

WhiteAngelica, thanks for sharing your story, your not alone, everyone got affected one way or another by this PANDEMIC. One thing i learned is, to stop grieving and release 100% who died, that is the only way they will be very very happy on the other side. I watched tons of regressive hypnosis and tons of paranormal info. People who died suffer badly in spirit world when you are not happy and in a very bad mental state, for them its x10, they feel all your emotions and fear, they might even show up in dreams to let you know they are fine! From all that i learned, only way they will be happy when you become happy and stable, most common recommended things to do is , remove all pictures, all privet items or anything that can trigger sadness or memory's or make you cry. Donate everything to good will or donate it to them trough fire. I mean removing everything from house that is there's!!! They will always be in your heart, no matter what and once you leave this earth plane, you will see them and reunite. Sharing this from a spiritual perspective. I really hope no one here "time stops" for them because of this trauma.

[StringThing]

807,000 deaths from COVID-19 in the US so far.

if only they took herbal medicine

[Lokey]

Has anyone in this thread lost family or loved ones to Covid? It radically changes your worldview. It radically changes the fabric of who you are. I want to see more comments about memorializing the lost. I'm in a support group for friends and family, and the politicizing of Covid has sent loved ones deeper down the rabbit hole. Grief is hard enough. Despite the mass amount of collective grief US shares in common, we surviving family members are barely keeping it together. There is no end in sight, and therefore no closure in sight. We feel invisible, and the stories are too much to bear. Last Christmas, a parent posted with a picture of her mantle. She had stockings hung for her children and presents under the tree. Her 16 year old boy had shockingly died of Covid, right before the holidays and despite going through it, I could never imagine that. There are so many families with children who lost, more often than not, a father and the single parent can't afford to swing the mortgage or their previous standard of living. These kids had gone through so much trauma and pain, had to pack up their childhood home and the memories they shared with their father within, and move into cramped apartments, possibly changing school districts. It is too much. It is too heavy.

I am immunocompromised, so I could get the vax. My partner is SEVERELY immunocompromised and hasn't left the house since the beginning of the pandemic. She has to depend on everyone else to get the shot for her to safely see physicians without putting her life at further risk. It had just reached a point where we thought it might be safe for her, and Omnicron came to town. I'm in New York State. My county is absolutely riddled with new cases. I know I won't die from it (even though I'm not yet eligible for a booster) but I could easily catch the variant and give it to my partner. I leave the house practically wearing a chernobyl anti-radiation lead-clad armor, and it may not seem practical. But it is. You lose someone, and it becomes a different, more private pandemic experience that I don't expect others to understand.

If you are interested in sending your sympathy to individuals and families who lost a loved one, you can volunteer on Marked By Covid. I think they are hard up for volunteers this year, as we've become so desensitized to it. I received those cards once, and put every one in a scrapbook. I look over them, again and again, whenever I feel like our lost have been forgotten. More than a number, they are.

Be safe, everyone. Take heart.

So very sorry.... I have not lost anyone I know (yet) and know I don't want to and so tired of the fear but it's there. Thank you for sharing this.

[stax-xats]

Tested positive, wish me luck.
I found this article
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10 ... 94816/full

[IndelibleDotInk]

Dr. McCullough Drops Truth Bombs on Joe Rogan's Podcast
https://rumble.com/vqysnr-dr.-mcculloug ... dcast.html

Joe Rogan is my IDOL! He is a real person, fact checked by me.

Joe Rogan is a verified idiot and I don't understand how any intelligent person could consume his media

Even before 2020, he was constantly talking over guests, pushing bullshit supplements, had all sorts of crazy nonsensical conspiracy theories he believed in/pushed like stoned ape/chemtrails/etc.

He was dope on Newsradio, lol.

[herbalhippie]

Tested positive, wish me luck.
I found this article
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10 ... 94816/full

Good luck, I hope you have a mild course!

[IndelibleDotInk]

Frustrated that my aunty got to my mom and convinced her the vax has horrible side effects... mom had gotten the first shot but went to Colorado to help my sis, her hubs, and my nephew for 3.5 months, didn't get the second.

Now you need a vax card or recent negative test result to go to restaurants and many businesses, but she is being stubborn.

What to do?!

[brave777]

Frustrated that my aunty got to my mom and convinced her the vax has horrible side effects... mom had gotten the first shot but went to Colorado to help my sis, her hubs, and my nephew for 3.5 months, didn't get the second.

Now you need a vax card or recent negative test result to go to restaurants and many businesses, but she is being stubborn.

What to do?!

Simple Leave her alone. You be the boss and take all boosters and all future shots. Never interfere in peoples privet life. I really hope this is drilled into you.

[BallzDeep9]

807,000 deaths from COVID-19 in the US so far.... If only they took herbal medicine

uhh not good to laugh... Do you think we'll reach 1 Million Dead ??

The End of the Pandemic. - https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets ... ar-AAS7M1o

So we're maybe 30 days, 60 days, away from Antiviral Pill(s) (there's more than 1!) which will END the "Pandemic As We Know it" anyway... Its been a tough 2 years. Looks like FDA has approved the Pfizer pill "Paxilovid" and the Merck pill has also been approved in limited access ? At any rate... This is it people !! https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/23/merck ... y-the-fda/

Now the Fallout... what did we learn? Anything ?? That Americans are butt-stupid when it comes to Public Health and, pitching in to help or save their neighbor? But instead they ran out and bought millions of Guns, hunkered down and acted like idiots... NOW we'll start doing the math. How many people died as a direct result of Fake President Rump's inaction. How many people died because they believed Fake News posted on wacko Internet sites? Or died because of some Fake Preacher scammed 'em in a church somewhere? ... All these numbers will be made public - Not that it matters, to "some" people. Me Me Me, as long as I survived!

Questions: WHY did people NOT "Follow the Science" but, instead, politicize the Virus ?? - was it all because of King Rump?

[herbalhippie]

That Paxilovid. There's a list of drug interactions with that as long as my arm. It affects cyp3a4 and a whole bunch of other cyps too.

[brimarq]

807,000 deaths from COVID-19 in the US so far.... If only they took herbal medicine

uhh not good to laugh... Do you think we'll reach 1 Million Dead ??

The End of the Pandemic. - https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets ... ar-AAS7M1o

So we're maybe 30 days, 60 days, away from Antiviral Pill(s) (there's more than 1!) which will END the "Pandemic As We Know it" anyway... Its been a tough 2 years. Looks like FDA has approved the Pfizer pill "Paxilovid" and the Merck pill has also been approved in limited access ? At any rate... This is it people !! https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/23/merck ... y-the-fda/

Now the Fallout... what did we learn? Anything ?? That Americans are butt-stupid when it comes to Public Health and, pitching in to help or save their neighbor? But instead they ran out and bought millions of Guns, hunkered down and acted like idiots... NOW we'll start doing the math. How many people died as a direct result of Fake President Rump's inaction. How many people died because they believed Fake News posted on wacko Internet sites? Or died because of some Fake Preacher scammed 'em in a church somewhere? ... All these numbers will be made public - Not that it matters, to "some" people. Me Me Me, as long as I survived!

Questions: WHY did people NOT "Follow the Science" but, instead, politicize the Virus ?? - was it all because of King Rump?

What should have been learned is that we should have been using therapeutics all along. That Paxlovid works in the same way as ivermectin; yet, ivermectin is dirt cheap, has a long safety record, and actually has more mechanisms of action. Here's an interesting video that breaks down how they work in understandable terms.