How to Make 15x Blue Lotus Tincture - for your Reset Kit

[Herba Rosa]

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If you haven't tried Blue Lotus tea, it's a natural, healthy, non-addictive source of natural euphoria and anxiety relief. Perfect for getting through a kratom break.
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Many, including myself, can also attest to its aphrodisiac qualities.
Some report that it can encourage onset of lucid dreams as well.
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Thing is, it takes a whole pot of tea to really feel the benefit...
It'll be hard to enjoy the benefits of Blue Lotus if you constantly need to take a leak.

> That's why Blue Lotus Extract is so useful! You can use it before bed, intimacy, or if you're like me, take it with you while running errands. Just take a couple droppers-full every so often. Super convenient.

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>>> I've laid out 13 Steps to making 15x (strength) Blue lotus Extract right in your own kitchen! (links below)
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---> For My Entertaining Tutorial/Demo Video (click here)

---> For My Concise Written Instructions/Detailed Recipe (click here)

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Let me know what your thoughts are in the comments of this post. Have you ever made Blue Lotus Extract Before? How did it go? Do you want to try making it, but haven't yet? What's holding you back?

[StringThing]

I've always wanted to try Blue Lotus. Your recipe looks great!

Have you tried it in wine, like the Egyptians?

How do the effects compare to kratom or kava?

[Herba Rosa]

I've always wanted to try Blue Lotus. Your recipe looks great!

Have you tried it in wine, like the Egyptians?

How do the effects compare to kratom or kava?

You should try it! I have it available on my website

Someday soon I'll have liquid tincture too. 180x instead of just 15x, though the 15x is decent enough.

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I have not tried it in wine, but I will eventually. I'd imagine it's much less potent than 15x, because of the lower alcohol content of the wine.
Ironically, when you drink the wine, you'll be consuming much more alcohol than if you're using tincture, so it'll be hard to tell which effects are coming from the blue lotus and which are from the wine.

It's much different than kratom or kava. Though, it can be a decent substitute.

Idk about you, but kratom tends to suppress my libido. The great part about blue lotus is it actually enhances libido and sensuality in general. The effects are euphoric and anxiety-relieving,
but in a different, much milder way than kratom. With Blue Lotus, it's more about enhancing the raw tactile experience of the moment, while kratom is more about shielding you from the cold, uncaring outside world, like a warm fuzzy blanket.
Kratom is more about the euphoria and comfort, while Blue Lotus is more about expanding the senses.

But I would definitely recommend it for a reset kit. Definitely helped me get through my first month without kratom. It's also something that one should not consume with kratom, since they are both dopamine agonists. It's either or.

[Jking]

Hey have yet to try blue lotus but mean meaning to pick up an extract of it because the lucid dreaming effect of the lotus in interest me; among other things about the herb. My question is it cheaper to make your own tincture from leaf, or was this something you done because you wanted? They have blue lotus extract up to 200x already made that’s a cheap price.

[StringThing]

I've always wanted to try Blue Lotus. Your recipe looks great!

Have you tried it in wine, like the Egyptians?

How do the effects compare to kratom or kava?

You should try it! I have it available on my website

Someday soon I'll have liquid tincture too. 180x instead of just 15x, though the 15x is decent enough.

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I have not tried it in wine, but I will eventually. I'd imagine it's much less potent than 15x, because of the lower alcohol content of the wine.
Ironically, when you drink the wine, you'll be consuming much more alcohol than if you're using tincture, so it'll be hard to tell which effects are coming from the blue lotus and which are from the wine.

It's much different than kratom or kava. Though, it can be a decent substitute.

Idk about you, but kratom tends to suppress my libido. The great part about blue lotus is it actually enhances libido and sensuality in general. The effects are euphoric and anxiety-relieving,
but in a different, much milder way than kratom. With Blue Lotus, it's more about enhancing the raw tactile experience of the moment, while kratom is more about shielding you from the cold, uncaring outside world, like a warm fuzzy blanket.
Kratom is more about the euphoria and comfort, while Blue Lotus is more about expanding the senses.

But I would definitely recommend it for a reset kit. Definitely helped me get through my first month without kratom. It's also something that one should not consume with kratom, since they are both dopamine agonists. It's either or.

Oh wow, your description got me pretty damn interested so I decided to look into the alkaloids in question and their mechanisms of action. I'm not a neurologist or anything but blue Lotus sounds even cooler than I thought lol. Your description made so much sense when I read about nuciferine because it is a 5HT2a agonist (like psychedelics) and has other interesting serotonergic activity. Like I know 5HT2c is linked to some of the more tactile psychedelics like 2cb, and also amphetamines or cocaine, which have pretty potent libido-enhancing effects. Not saying those are similar in effect, but its playing with the same paint-set. There are some boring substances/medicines that have affinity for these receptors, but the ones that are psychoactive turn out to be pretty interesting.

You mentioned you shouldn't take them together, and I think you're right, but not because they are both dopamine agonists. Apomorphine and nuciferine are dopamine ANTAGONISTS and kratom contains opioid agonists (and thus have affinity for dopaminergic sites). The best visual I can think to describe this, is a dam breaking down in a big flood. Could cause excitotoxicity, which in a best case scenario means neuron damage/death, and worst case scenario means you have a stroke or something. It's fair to say that combinations like this have the potential to be neurotoxic, though idk if Blue Lotus + kratom would do this. Needs a further study.

I'm guessing the dopaminergic antagonism might also might help kratom wd, as you described. It basically inhibits your brain's ability to 'get rid' of compounds so that they stick around and keep producing effects--when you're in withdrawal you need that shit! Similar to how stuff like buprenorphine (prescribed for quitting heroin) works. Or anti-depressants like SSRIs and SNRIs.

Sorry for the writeup, I just thought it was really interesting lol. I always look up the basic pharmacologic/pharmacokinetic mechanisms before I try a new drug, but it's very rare that they sound this awesome and promising. I think I might get some when I near the end of my kratom taper, which is coming up soon. Curious to see how dreaming on it is too.

Do you feel like its more stimulating or sedating?

[StringThing]

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/d ... 1&type=pdf

Structural Correlation between Apomorphine and LSD:
Involvement of Dopamine as Well as Serotonin
in the Actions of Hallucinogens

I'm not a chemist, so I can't speak on the significance of these findings... but damn. Very interesting to see that both the MoA and the structure are in the same playground.

[Herba Rosa]

Hey have yet to try blue lotus but mean meaning to pick up an extract of it because the lucid dreaming effect of the lotus in interest me; among other things about the herb. My question is it cheaper to make your own tincture from leaf, or was this something you done because you wanted? They have blue lotus extract up to 200x already made that’s a cheap price.

It may only be slightly cheaper to make Blue Lotus tincture on your own than buying a bottle. Plus, 200X is a lot more than 15x. But honestly, I've never heard of more than 188X.
I will have 188X Blue Lotus tincture available on my website sometime in the next 3-6 months. I'll keep everyone updated. It's looking like it's gonna be bomb.

I'm just curious, would you prefer it with or without Vegetable Glycerin (for thickness and sweet taste)?

[Herba Rosa]

I've always wanted to try Blue Lotus. Your recipe looks great!

Have you tried it in wine, like the Egyptians?

How do the effects compare to kratom or kava?

You should try it! I have it available on my website

Someday soon I'll have liquid tincture too. 180x instead of just 15x, though the 15x is decent enough.

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I have not tried it in wine, but I will eventually. I'd imagine it's much less potent than 15x, because of the lower alcohol content of the wine.
Ironically, when you drink the wine, you'll be consuming much more alcohol than if you're using tincture, so it'll be hard to tell which effects are coming from the blue lotus and which are from the wine.

It's much different than kratom or kava. Though, it can be a decent substitute.

Idk about you, but kratom tends to suppress my libido. The great part about blue lotus is it actually enhances libido and sensuality in general. The effects are euphoric and anxiety-relieving,
but in a different, much milder way than kratom. With Blue Lotus, it's more about enhancing the raw tactile experience of the moment, while kratom is more about shielding you from the cold, uncaring outside world, like a warm fuzzy blanket.
Kratom is more about the euphoria and comfort, while Blue Lotus is more about expanding the senses.

But I would definitely recommend it for a reset kit. Definitely helped me get through my first month without kratom. It's also something that one should not consume with kratom, since they are both dopamine agonists. It's either or.

Oh wow, your description got me pretty damn interested so I decided to look into the alkaloids in question and their mechanisms of action. I'm not a neurologist or anything but blue Lotus sounds even cooler than I thought lol. Your description made so much sense when I read about nuciferine because it is a 5HT2a agonist (like psychedelics) and has other interesting serotonergic activity. Like I know 5HT2c is linked to some of the more tactile psychedelics like 2cb, and also amphetamines or cocaine, which have pretty potent libido-enhancing effects. Not saying those are similar in effect, but its playing with the same paint-set. There are some boring substances/medicines that have affinity for these receptors, but the ones that are psychoactive turn out to be pretty interesting.

You mentioned you shouldn't take them together, and I think you're right, but not because they are both dopamine agonists. Apomorphine and nuciferine are dopamine ANTAGONISTS and kratom contains opioid agonists (and thus have affinity for dopaminergic sites). The best visual I can think to describe this, is a dam breaking down in a big flood. Could cause excitotoxicity, which in a best case scenario means neuron damage/death, and worst case scenario means you have a stroke or something. It's fair to say that combinations like this have the potential to be neurotoxic, though idk if Blue Lotus + kratom would do this. Needs a further study.

I'm guessing the dopaminergic antagonism might also might help kratom wd, as you described. It basically inhibits your brain's ability to 'get rid' of compounds so that they stick around and keep producing effects--when you're in withdrawal you need that shit! Similar to how stuff like buprenorphine (prescribed for quitting heroin) works. Or anti-depressants like SSRIs and SNRIs.

Sorry for the writeup, I just thought it was really interesting lol. I always look up the basic pharmacologic/pharmacokinetic mechanisms before I try a new drug, but it's very rare that they sound this awesome and promising. I think I might get some when I near the end of my kratom taper, which is coming up soon. Curious to see how dreaming on it is too.

Do you feel like its more stimulating or sedating?

Fascinating! I didn't know that uppers and Blue Lotus acted on similar receptors. I thought the amphetamine libido boost came from increased heart rate and dopamine release.
Which makes them agonists, right? Since they increase dopamine uptake? That segues into your next point...

... I both read AND heard from a reputable source that Nuciferine and Aporphine were dopamine agonists, but I it's possible my sources were wrong. You sound like you know what you are talking about though, so I won't argue that I'm right and you're wrong. I am not certain, one way or the other. Either way, good metaphor with the Dam. May need further study, but I would ere on the side of caution. Don't want to be a lab rat. Though I used to take kratom on the comedown from Adderall, so I really hope I haven't already cause extensive neuron death. It didn't seem like it, but I am now experiencing pretty bad PAWS (Post Acute Withdrawal Symptoms) ever since I stopped taking kratom back in mid November.

Blue Lotus is definitely more sedating than stimulating, but it's hard to say. It makes your skin flush a little bit, and gets the blood flowing, but it's still pretty chill. I like to have it when I go out for errands or while playing video games.

Thanks for the support! I appreciate it
Looking forward to sending you some Blue Lotus Flowers