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I just got two kilos of Oties Botanicals Red bali and have now taken two servings being kind of dissapoiting with the quality. Do you think it takes a couple days for my receptors to get use to the new vendors alcoloids? Has anyone had issues with Oties with there quality? I ordered from them a year ago and remember them being pretty good.

I can't speak to their recent quality, but I do know that there are many people that swear by Otie's. We're actually a part of their online Facebook group. I highly suggest that if you have questions regarding their potency and/or quality, you ask them there too. I know Becca is always on there and ready to help right away. From what I've experienced, their customer service is fuegoooo.

Link to the group here broski: https://www.facebook.com/groups/469936317143003

kratomboss55 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:47 pm I just got two kilos of Oties Botanicals Red bali and have now taken two servings being kind of dissapoiting with the quality. Do you think it takes a couple days for my receptors to get use to the new vendors alcoloids? Has anyone had issues with Oties with there quality? I ordered from them a year ago and remember them being pretty good.

I'm not sure if you're new to kratom but you should never just order two full kilos if anything unless you're absolutely certain it's amazing. Even then I wouldn't do it. In the future a split kilo or half from Mitraman, FusedFlora, HeavenLeaf, etc are safe bets

GreatIAm33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:42 pm

kratomboss55 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:47 pm I just got two kilos of Oties Botanicals Red bali and have now taken two servings being kind of dissapoiting with the quality. Do you think it takes a couple days for my receptors to get use to the new vendors alcoloids? Has anyone had issues with Oties with there quality? I ordered from them a year ago and remember them being pretty good.

I'm not sure if you're new to kratom but you should never just order two full kilos if anything unless you're absolutely certain it's amazing. Even then I wouldn't do it. In the future a split kilo or half from Mitraman, FusedFlora, HeavenLeaf, etc are safe bets

Yea i had ordered from them a while ago thinking they would still have quality. Dumb move on my end. Been taking kratom for 3 years...

Our Red Bali labs are more potent then most reds. However some things don't work for everyone as we all know. Individual results regarding effects of different strains vary greatly from person to person. So what works really well for one person, might not work well for you. We don't work with suppliers who supply an inferior product. We have customers that swear by a few strains that I myself don't prefer. We have a very large customer base. We also have many reviews and people who love the red Bali which is a testament to how subjective this all can be. Our reds besides Bent are pure red with no fermentation. Some people like that and some people dont. We have chosen to go down that because that's what most of our customers prefer. I'm sorry you feel this way. I would have worked it out with you but despite us emailing you and texting you about your bounced check you didn't respond. Not to say the funds weren't available, but checks get returned for several reasons. If you would like I can send you the screenshots. We were going to cancel your package but we are good people and assumed you would get back to us. If you did, we could have worked it all out.Once again, I'm sorry the Red Bali disappointed you. Unfortunately reds always disappoint me.

Yikes

I LOVE Red Bali, havn't tried oties yet, but most placed RED BALI ALWAYS treats me right, it's actually the first choice i pick when i try a new vendor, if their Red Bali is good, i assume the rest of their kratom is good, because Red Bali, Green Malay, and White Borneo are the fathers of kratom.+0

I'm the same way. Just not w Red Bali exactly. I usually make my judgements on the greens. If a vendor has a green that I really liked, I assume the rest I will too. It's weird though, in the very beginning reds were my FAVORITE. At some point they just stopped working for me. If I took any red, from any place, I would have to take a green afterwards because they just don't work anymore

otiesbotanicals wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:53 pm I'm the same way. Just not w Red Bali exactly. I usually make my judgements on the greens. If a vendor has a green that I really liked, I assume the rest I will too. It's weird though, in the very beginning reds were my FAVORITE. At some point they just stopped working for me. If I took any red, from any place, I would have to take a green afterwards because they just don't work anymore

I've heard thats usual with most of us starting with reds then transitioning to greens. I know I love reds, but like you oftentimes my first burn is almost always amazing, and then rarely do I ever get a good second burn with them with some exceptions (And I wait at least a week or two to retry).

Know what? I think I'm going to try a red tonight lmao

otiesbotanicals wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:53 pm I'm the same way. Just not w Red Bali exactly. I usually make my judgements on the greens. If a vendor has a green that I really liked, I assume the rest I will too. It's weird though, in the very beginning reds were my FAVORITE. At some point they just stopped working for me. If I took any red, from any place, I would have to take a green afterwards because they just don't work anymore

Just wanted to say my comment earlier wasn't implying you guys don't have great quality. I've honestly never tried your product and was just giving recommendations of vendors that I have. Just wanted to be clear that I didn't mean it like that

GreatIAm33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:00 pm

otiesbotanicals wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:53 pm I'm the same way. Just not w Red Bali exactly. I usually make my judgements on the greens. If a vendor has a green that I really liked, I assume the rest I will too. It's weird though, in the very beginning reds were my FAVORITE. At some point they just stopped working for me. If I took any red, from any place, I would have to take a green afterwards because they just don't work anymore

Just wanted to say my comment earlier wasn't implying you guys don't have great quality. I've honestly never tried your product and was just giving recommendations of vendors that I have. Just wanted to be clear that I didn't mean it like that

Haha no worries! You named some good vendors! Shaun is a good dude, I like him alot. Before I was buying bulk Javanica I would always buy it off him because he always had some. Join our fb group or send me a message. I'll send you some free samples