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Red Muna MIR-4

Pain relief: 7/10
sedating: 11/10
mood change: 6/10
duration: no idea, couldn't stay awake.

First tried by freezing, no lime juice, at 3.1g. Had very little effect and a little nausea.

Second night I tried 3.1g with lime juice and had an intense experience. It had a come up that made me a bit anxious and the nausea was enough to make me stop drinking my tea. The nausea started to go away after starting the second Star Trek episode so I chugged the remaining 1/3 of the tea. I had pretty intense closed eye visuals and pretty hard nods. There is a bit of documentation online about Kratom giving closed eye visuals--internal hallucinations--and I've had this happen a few times with reds. By far the most intense closed eye visuals and nods I've had from Kratom. Since receiving TFH i've been drinking more Kratom than normal, which could explain the nausea. Some info online suggest the closed eye visuals are related to the nods and lucid dreaming. Loved the nods, disliked the come up. First time i've had "come up" like effects on Kratom. Ginger chews had no effect on the nausea--normally does. Nausea was completely gone, did not return, after sedative effects started.

Also to note, even though I LOVED the nods and CE visuals, there was no elation or euphoria with the experience.

On the 30 year wild TFH I had some amazing almost DMT like visions nodding while trying to sleep. Something like a fractal pyramid in space. Certainly can feel the wisdom of the plant. There is a deep connection between plants and all living beings which the west has lost connection with. I dont take kratom after 5pm anymore because while I like the visions I don't quite like the nodding feeling. Taking Kratom at any point in the day will still grant me intense lucid dreams at night.

skimthegrotto wrote:Red Muna MIR-4

One of the first TFH "Samples" I ever did, was Gold Muna M3.. that made clear, we had something special in TFH.

Right away I ordered some Gold Muna - No idea where the name is from? and seems now some "Muna" strains are sold out.. But wow.. He really gets some great strains of ALL colors. I love a good Gold, so had no problem ordering his Wild Crafted Gold TFH, sight unseen - have complete faith in the potency. Still keep an eye out for future Muna batches!

Interesting take. Red Muna was the only selection I didn't care for out of my tester's kit - too sedating.
I only tried it once. Your review makes me want to try it again.
Might be a good mixer.

BallzDeep9 wrote:

skimthegrotto wrote:Red Muna MIR-4

One of the first TFH "Samples" I ever did, was Gold Muna M3.. that made clear, we had something special in TFH.

Right away I ordered some Gold Muna - No idea where the name is from? and seems now some "Muna" strains are sold out.. But wow.. He really gets some great strains of ALL colors. I love a good Gold, so had no problem ordering his Wild Crafted Gold TFH, sight unseen - have complete faith in the potency. Still keep an eye out for future Muna batches!

Im pretty new to kratom and this fourm... ive seen ur posts u seem very knowledgeable. ive tried headshop remarkable herbs mange de and i liked it but i have bad anxiety and it messed with my breathing and chest, kinda like caffiene does. i then tried remarkable herbs bali, and i like the way it calms me kinda like a benzo, but its makes me nasueas, and i only take like a gram... do u have any recommendation on the type of strain 2 try, from this vendor? my main use for kratom is to kill pain, i have an autoimmune disorder that makes me feel like i have the flu all day.... do u think all reds may make me naseaus?, and maybe ther is a yellow or green type that wont make me naseaus, but also wont give me to much anxiety/stimulation? sorry for all the questions, appreciate any help on ur vast expiriences.

brokemalone wrote:

BallzDeep9 wrote:

skimthegrotto wrote:Red Muna MIR-4

One of the first TFH "Samples" I ever did, was Gold Muna M3.. that made clear, we had something special in TFH.

Right away I ordered some Gold Muna - No idea where the name is from? and seems now some "Muna" strains are sold out.. But wow.. He really gets some great strains of ALL colors. I love a good Gold, so had no problem ordering his Wild Crafted Gold TFH, sight unseen - have complete faith in the potency. Still keep an eye out for future Muna batches!

Im pretty new to kratom and this fourm... ive seen ur posts u seem very knowledgeable. ive tried headshop remarkable herbs mange de and i liked it but i have bad anxiety and it messed with my breathing and chest, kinda like caffiene does. i then tried remarkable herbs bali, and i like the way it calms me kinda like a benzo, but its makes me nasueas, and i only take like a gram... do u have any recommendation on the type of strain 2 try, from this vendor? my main use for kratom is to kill pain, i have an autoimmune disorder that makes me feel like i have the flu all day.... do u think all reds may make me naseaus?, and maybe ther is a yellow or green type that wont make me naseaus, but also wont give me to much anxiety/stimulation? sorry for all the questions, appreciate any help on ur vast expiriences.

Welcome to the forum...most will say greens or reds are the best for pain, idk..I have whites that are pretty painkilling, maybe you should try the batches you have again after you've ate a little food? Remarkable herbs kratom isn't gonna be very consistent from batch to batch but you'll find quite a few vendors that hang around here that source pretty consistent batches, maybe give a few a try when the remarkable herbs puts a strain on your wallet?..

Opiyum -- My closed eye visuals started as fractals too and then turned into full visions of whatever I was thinking about. The nodding completely killed the CE visuals before falling asleep completely.

BallzDeep9 -- Prior to posting my review I had searched for Red Muna TFH and could only find Gold Muna reviews, everyone seemed to of liked it. I wonder if they are similar, perhaps the Red dried longer than the gold? No idea what defines a "Muna" first time seeing it was at TFH

Kratomkonnie -- I honestly would not rebuy the Red Muna, though I could see it being an interesting mixer.

Brokemalone -- I have never ingested the Kratom plant material, always brewed tea with coffee filter. Only one batch of Kratom has made me nauseous--Red Muna MIR-4. I have a very sensitive stomach, prone to nausea. When I started, 2.5 grams was enough to make me nod. Start at a low dose, and brew / filter the plant material. Also, slice up raw ginger root and chew on it while you drink the tea, don't swallow the ginger--you CAN but I don't. Fresh raw ginger root chewed is much more effective against nausea than candies or ginger tea bags. Definitely email TFH guy, he is super nice and very helpful, I'm sure he will recommend you something for your needs based off reviews of his customers.

I had the same take as others here. I’ve had a hundred Kratom strains in my life and never quite had something as “sedating” as this. Might be good for insomnia, but it just wiped me out.

Closed eye visuals? Did you take it with mushroom tea or peyote buttons possibly blue lotus? This has never occurred to me

I got something like 17 different TFH strains during the month-long open membership here on Double M. Red Muna was one of the samples I got. I really liked it. I took it at the end of a very stressful day and it was just want I wanted at the time — a very calming and relaxing effect. I’ve never had any leaf put me to sleep, though I would love to find a super sedating strain to help with my insomnia. (LoE’s Kapuas River Green did knock me out, come to think of it.) But I’m a fan of the Red Muna if you just want to unwind. My favorite TFH so far are the 30 Year Wild White TFH and the Wild Harvest Yellow Maeng Da (another one I got as a sample — twice). Solid leaf all around, though I can’t stomach the smell and taste of the Deep Jungle Maeng Da!

Jada1472 wrote:I had the same take as others here. I’ve had a hundred Kratom strains in my life and never quite had something as “sedating” as this. Might be good for insomnia, but it just wiped me out.

Is it more sedating than wild crafted heavy red tfh??