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I ordered an entire kilo of White Maeng Da in January from them. At first I was disappointed by the subtle smoothness of HS white maeng da, I was expecting something with more energy and a strong mood-lift. After my first 250 grams was consumed in a month I decided to switch to my previous vendor Acadica particularly their White kali, to contrast it with HS. It was only after trying the white kali that I began to appreciate the HS white maeng da, it has a more noticeable body-warming and overall moodlift than the Acadica White Kali, and neither of them seem strongly energizing. The Acadica seemed a browner, more oxidized, less fresh, and also had a gritty sand texture. The HS White Maeng da is a brighter green and has no sand or sand-like texture. It takes much less to notice that mouth-numbing kratom effect and mood-lift, although I am disappointed it is a bit on the slow side for a white maeng da, however the contrast made me realize that this is a quality product from Herbal Salvation. Kudos to Herbal Salvation for kratom testing and sharing the results, they are the only vendor who do this that I am aware of and they have higher quality kratom than most.

They also gave me a sample of white hulu, which was more of a clear-headed and clear-bodied effect, but not much more energizing than the white maeng da, so that is more for people who are sensitive to kratom than those who want a superfast moodlift. It seems like the super-energizing fast strains are the rare high quality kratom that is hard to find from any vendor consistently, it would have been better to get a split kilo of the White Maeng Da but I am surprised how strong it is and surprised my tolerance hasn't developed that much in 6 months of daily use with a few off days.

I've gotten a couple white maeng das recently that were slow and euphoric, no stimulation at all. It surprised the hell out of me, I thought white maeng das would be stimulating!

Also, I have never had the mouth or tongue numbness that people speak of.

The slow and heavy White Maeng Das are definitely my favorite. Whenever I want an extra kick, that's what I go for. I've never tried Herbal Salvation, but it sounds like I need to check them out.

herbalhippie wrote:Also, I have never had the mouth or tongue numbness that people speak of.

Only some strains do this for me. It's usually the stronger ones, so it might have to do with alkaloid content. I enjoy it when it does happen though.

I love white strains, especially maeng da. When you say it's more on the slow side, do you mean the energy has a shorter duration or that it just isn't as energetic as other whites? I noticed you said it has a great mood lift and body-warming, but when I take a white strain what interests me most is that sweet, sweet energy lol.

Thanks for the review, and the nice comparisons to some other white strains.

e_poison wrote:I love white strains, especially maeng da. When you say it's more on the slow side, do you mean the energy has a shorter duration or that it just isn't as energetic as other whites? I noticed you said it has a great mood lift and body-warming, but when I take a white strain what interests me most is that sweet, sweet energy lol.

Thanks for the review, and the nice comparisons to some other white strains.

The HS White maeng da has some energy for me atleast nothing like those rare fast whites where caffeine combined with the kratom can be ultra peppy, I can take this white maeng da in the evenings without being up too late or having shortened sleep.

I have both the Acadica White Kali and HS WMD. I enjoy the HS but the Kali won after 2 days in a row of the perfect dose and surprisingly long lasting......So I ordered a large quantity of it. Apparently not large enough though. I do share with family and a few friends but not that one anymore. I hate to admit it but I horde the rest of only that one. That particular Kali batch is one of the best whites I've had.... Ever!!!! But......By the time I realized I wanted it all for myself it was gone from the site. . I have tried many vendors and their whole white strains lineup.... And nothing has compared to it.. I try to dose other whites in the morning but nope..... The Kali wins in the end almost every other day. Now I can't stop my quest. The endless search of the one that can replace it. I now have a drawer full of opened whites that are tossed in and fogotten.

Anycolor, I don't know if this is helpful to you or not, but if I were in your shoes and looking for a hard to find strain -- or something to match it -- I would ask Zeniotuten, who I personally think qualifies as "The King of Samples" going by his old r/swapsell record. Not an exaggeration.

He's been here a couple times, but last I heard he is on MeWe (username "Zenio Tuten") and is also working with Harry at KOG. If you tell him what you just told us, chances are pretty good that he has actually tried the elusive White Kali of which you speak and may have a bit himself or at least know of something comparable. He's a really good guy and his knowledge of the leaf is almost encyclopedic. Whether he has what you're looking for or not, or whether you buy from him or not, he may well have the information you're after and would happily discuss it with you.

Good luck!

The HS White maeng da has some energy for me atleast nothing like those rare fast whites where caffeine combined with the kratom can be ultra peppy, I can take this white maeng da in the evenings without being up too late or having shortened sleep.[/quote]

A couple of weeks ago I ran across a sample of HS white meang da that I hadn’t opened yet, and man I wish I had opened it sooner. It is my favorite white so far, and I too am on a quest to find something similar. I can sleep on pretty much anything. It’s a very nice clean, euphoric energy. RVA white Bali is my next go to.