Double M Herbals | Kratom Forum

Has anyone tried their stem and vein? Today I realized my consumption and tolerance are at a less than desirable level. I read that stem and vein does have an effect but is a different feeling than kratom. I just ordered some and I'd like to know what I can expect because I noticed I can't stop taking kratom at least 3 times a day no matter what. Thanks! (:

I have ordered RVA's Red Stem & Vein last year. It was OK... don't expect strong effects with any Stem & Vein. The variety that RVA sells, appears to have more leaf content than traditional S&V. Pure S&V should be a light tan color, sandy powder, appearing different from regular leaf powder.

Good first step, mix it up, try something different - S&V helps U avoid mild withdrawals, you're still taking "something" and meanwhile U taper down, reduce your total daily consumption. Also try Agmatine Sulfate and vitamins to help with taper - Reddit search for Agmatine Good luck!

Hey there! I got RVA’s red and green S/V a while back for a similar reason. Usually RVA doesn’t agree with me but I found the red S/v especially was good for subbing in to cut my tolerance. I halved my dosage in only a day or two and the level of normality I felt was heavenly. Dosage can really creep up on you! It takes definite self control to keep under the withdrawal threshold. S/V is really a good way to reign it back.

More to the point, get the red if at all possible. I found it infinitely more helpful than the green. I still found that after about a week my body didn’t like even this RVA product but it was less dramatic than their other stuff.

Good luck! Look up info on adrenal fatigue as well, and take care of yourself!