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Ever wanted plain leaf that could feel like old school UE?

This is it. This stuff packs a punch and then some. Strong red vein batch that hits on many cylinders.

Pain relief is through the roof on this one. I would say that’s its main focus, but the mood boost is not to be dismissed.

Also has sustained, anytime energy that makes this one a true treat to enjoy anytime of the day.

I don’t take kratom for pain (although I’m kind of doing it at the moment). My favorite batch of the year is the crown jewel sumpur (as I seek out the mood boost batches), but I can see this being a favorite for many people.

This is a close 2nd for me to crown jewel sumpur.

Potency is simply fantastic. Another bomb gem from TFH.

Just ordered some, after reading your reviews on this and the Crown Jewel Sumpur, I can’t wait to try them! I think I enjoy buying Kratom just as much as I do in sampling it

I feel the same way. On delivery day I wait for the mail like a little kid waiting on a present! Even though I know the present and I paid for it, but I get all giddy when it arrives

I just saw this on the menu and came here for feedback. Thank you for the reviews. They did not disappoint. My pain, perhaps the weather, has been especially bonkers and resistant to my usual regimen. I also feel emotionally punched in the face, as my spouse has another surgery for the 19th (cancer) and all is chaos and me gimping around like a decrepit pseudo corpse. I had a gut feeling about this one. Ultra Indo XO is absolutely IT. Very, very excited for this one, and all your feedback!

Though I love a crown jewel and lust a yellow Muna. But this? She's marriage material. Xo

elbandito88 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:16 pm Ever wanted plain leaf that could feel like old school UE?

This is it. This stuff packs a punch and then some. Strong red vein batch that hits on many cylinders.
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Potency is simply fantastic. Another bomb gem from TFH.

I just dropped in to see if anybody had tried this one yet, and of COURSE you had!

Thanks for the review - 'tis ordered!

Ordered. Just a 100g at first, but I'm feeling like I should have split that kilo and had myself some more of that Crown Jewel!

I'm considering Yellow Muna? Low, low, low on golds and yellows over here!

Crap. I could have sworn I wasn't buying any more kratom for a while. And then this (of course).

Sigh. Other than this has anything new dropped in the last three weeks? My order then got me caught up on everything they had and I always hate to just buy one thing.

I'm broke rn but hopefully I score some Xmas money to cop a kilo or two

Rambo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:11 pm Just ordered some, after reading your reviews on this and the Crown Jewel Sumpur, I can’t wait to try them! I think I enjoy buying Kratom just as much as I do in sampling it

The whole shopping process is super addicting! I feel like a kid in a candy store. I tend to go a little overboard myself sometimes.

I ordered some because of this post. Got mine in today on Christmas eve. What a great Christmas gift.

I'd love to hear some more reviews from people who have gotten this strain now that it's been out for a while. It seems like a new strain gets a good review and a bunch of people get excited about how great it's going to be. Then no one comes back once they've tried it. Sometimes the "It did nothing for me" comments come in a couple months later. Anyone have more perspective to add?

SaintsWillConquer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:17 am I'd love to hear some more reviews from people who have gotten this strain now that it's been out for a while. It seems like a new strain gets a good review and a bunch of people get excited about how great it's going to be. Then no one comes back once they've tried it. Sometimes the "It did nothing for me" comments come in a couple months later. Anyone have more perspective to add?

For me The FOMO is 100% Justified for Ultra Indo XO, the pain relief & mood boost is Top Tier. The legs on this batch are unheard of in my experiences so far, 6+ hours duration every time for me. This is bordering on a unicorn batch. I have dosed it 6-7 Times with the same results. Highly recommend

BookofEnoch1914 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:58 am

SaintsWillConquer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:17 am I'd love to hear some more reviews from people who have gotten this strain now that it's been out for a while. It seems like a new strain gets a good review and a bunch of people get excited about how great it's going to be. Then no one comes back once they've tried it. Sometimes the "It did nothing for me" comments come in a couple months later. Anyone have more perspective to add?

For me The FOMO is 100% Justified for Ultra Indo XO, the pain relief & mood boost is Top Tier. The legs on this batch are unheard of in my experiences so far, 6+ hours duration every time for me. This is bordering on a unicorn batch. I have dosed it 6-7 Times with the same results. Highly recommend

Agreed, this one seems to just be getting better every time I dose it. It is definitely a special, special batch. I've yet to have it "not hit."

SaintsWillConquer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:17 am I'd love to hear some more reviews from people who have gotten this strain now that it's been out for a while. It seems like a new strain gets a good review and a bunch of people get excited about how great it's going to be. Then no one comes back once they've tried it. Sometimes the "It did nothing for me" comments come in a couple months later. Anyone have more perspective to add?

I bought some but only tried the Crown Jewel form my last order (fantastic, 10/10 batch btw). Frankly, I have some TFH bags I ordered over a year ago that I haven’t gotten around to opening yet based on the feedback here I will open this one sooner than later. Will report back after a few weeks (my rotation is planned a long ways out)

Deff one of my favorites so far. It should be named Ultra Sumatra Indo because it's spiritually pain relieving.

This thread is very promising! I'm ordering this now since I've waited long enough, knew I wanted to try it just because of the name but always do a little snooping as to what folks here think, and am more than stoked to see it compared to UE and stuff. Naming something Ultra Indo in 2024 is communicating a very clear quality/effect and I know Chris wouldnt fuck around with a name like that. Thanks everyone for providing some info and reviews for it.
Im about 90% through trying everything on the current menu, and not many have been total misses! Nice!

Must chime in here & Testify the Ultra Indo XL is of the highest quality; and even tho I'm dabbling in 7OH these days ... imo, the foundation of any kratom program, will always be a great Leaf. In my opinion "Less is More" still applies - and extract of MIT or 7OH, when used as icing on the cake... IS sustainable long term.

Hard to say exactly where we'll be NEXT Christmas, as 2024 has been such a wild year ... There will always be high demand for TFH products! And I trust that he's and his Indo connections, are working around any new Supply chain, "Regulations" over there.

aaaaaahhhhhhhh ok fine

Well, this is one batch I'm glad I ordered 500 grams of (normally 250 is about the max for me).

Perhaps I'll make it into capsules today. I'd really like to try this one out.

WickedMadScientist wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:40 pm Deff one of my favorites so far. It should be named Ultra Sumatra Indo because it's spiritually pain relieving.

I don't think I've ever had a 'Sumatra' batch I didn't like. They always seem to work well for me.

herbalhippie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:30 am

WickedMadScientist wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:40 pm Deff one of my favorites so far. It should be named Ultra Sumatra Indo because it's spiritually pain relieving.

I don't think I've ever had a 'Sumatra' batch I didn't like. They always seem to work well for me.

Same. Sumatra leaf generally are great for me, and typically better relief as well. Also "Kali" batches usually work well for me too. Not that names mean anything lol

been trying this yesterday and today. one thing I noticed so far is that it is not slow! so that’s great. i’m sick of slow leaf. lol
also getting good mood boost.
i think Ill know on the 3rd burn how good this stuff is for me

Good to see all the exciting reviews. So I ordered some. And as sometimes happens, it's a zero for me. Tried it about 6 times. Sigh. So tomorrow I'm going kamikaze & I'm going to take this strain exclusively for 10 days in a row, starting @ 1g/dose & go slowly upward from there until I hit 3.5g/dose. I've had success doing this with other zero-grade kratom(chris - don't take that personal! I still like your kratom) & ended up finding some of my favorites. Wish me well!

pray4peace4 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:52 pm Good to see all the exciting reviews. So I ordered some. And as sometimes happens, it's a zero for me. Tried it about 6 times. Sigh. So tomorrow I'm going kamikaze & I'm going to take this strain exclusively for 10 days in a row, starting @ 1g/dose & go slowly upward from there until I hit 3.5g/dose. I've had success doing this with other zero-grade kratom(chris - don't take that personal! I still like your kratom) & ended up finding some of my favorites. Wish me well!

That sounds like a good idea.

pray4peace4 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:52 pm Good to see all the exciting reviews. So I ordered some. And as sometimes happens, it's a zero for me. Tried it about 6 times. Sigh. So tomorrow I'm going kamikaze & I'm going to take this strain exclusively for 10 days in a row, starting @ 1g/dose & go slowly upward from there until I hit 3.5g/dose. I've had success doing this with other zero-grade kratom(chris - don't take that personal! I still like your kratom) & ended up finding some of my favorites. Wish me well!

Interesting process. When it’s been successful, is it usually that you have to go lower or higher? And by how much?

oftheshire wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:01 am

pray4peace4 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:52 pm Good to see all the exciting reviews. So I ordered some. And as sometimes happens, it's a zero for me. Tried it about 6 times. Sigh. So tomorrow I'm going kamikaze & I'm going to take this strain exclusively for 10 days in a row, starting @ 1g/dose & go slowly upward from there until I hit 3.5g/dose. I've had success doing this with other zero-grade kratom(chris - don't take that personal! I still like your kratom) & ended up finding some of my favorites. Wish me well!

Interesting process. When it’s been successful, is it usually that you have to go lower or higher? And by how much?

Some new strains work for me right away, some don't. Smiley Time strains never work for me right away & I had to take the Red Smile for about 2 weeks until it worked but, when it did, it was gangbusters & became my go-to favorite for 1.5 years. Reds from TFH almost always work right away & if they don't, no matter how long I try, they usually never work. So odds are against this one.

If you ever have a favorite strain go flat on you, drop your dose down to 1g. If that's where your normal dose is, then drop you dose even farther, like 0.5g. Restrict yourself to only 3 or 4 doses per day & make sure your last dose is at bedtime so you can sleep. I don't use white strains so I don't know how this procedure works for white strains... use your best judgment. I usually see a distinct change on Day 3 when I do this, but the goodness doesn't last very long. Day 4 I can go back to my 1.5g or 2g doses.

I had been trying to get this one to hit.
Today, it is prob the 5th time, it finally hit ; and hit well.
Truly it is a place where sometimes you have to try a few times to get it to work. Once it does, you will appreciate. It is excellent. Mood boost city.
This is really something we should be doing with everything we try i suppose.

Thx for the encouragement. I was about to give up on this one. Did you exclusively use it & no other strains over many days, or did you intersperse with other strains each day?

whenever i’m deciding whether a strain is for me, i try it the first burn of the day. It is because i’m on an empty stomache and haven’t dosed in 8 hrs or so. This gives me thr most accurate assessment.
The truth is, during the day when i dose, the feeling i get is not just what i just took, but what i took before that all working together. So i can’t really try something multiple times in a day and say it’s from
what i just took that gave
me this effect, cause it’s stacking and stacking and building up. Especially me cause i dose like 10
times through the day and evening.

So what i did was try it like first in thr morning about 5 times and it finally worked really well for me, and is now one i really like. Glad it worked

Hulu2021 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:12 am whenever i’m deciding whether a strain is for me, i try it the first burn of the day. It is because i’m on an empty stomache and haven’t dosed in 8 hrs or so. This gives me thr most accurate assessment.
The truth is, during the day when i dose, the feeling i get is not just what i just took, but what i took before that all working together. So i can’t really try something multiple times in a day and say it’s from
what i just took that gave
me this effect, cause it’s stacking and stacking and building up. Especially me cause i dose like 10
times through the day and evening.

So what i did was try it like first in thr morning about 5 times and it finally worked really well for me, and is now one i really like. Glad it worked

And sometimes you're in the mood to throw in one that didn't work before or sometimes, rarely, I make a day of it. Take one or a bunch that didn't hit before and go fishing.

I hope you're well, buddy. It's mivanqua if you don't know pig Latin. Haha!

pray4peace4 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:53 pm Thx for the encouragement. I was about to give up on this one. Did you exclusively use it & no other strains over many days, or did you intersperse with other strains each day?

I had this same thing happen with TFH Crown Jewel Sumpur - I only dose once a day, and not every day, and I was interspersing other batches - but it wasn't until the 3rd time with Crown Jewel that it started to hit (I'd been pretty disappointed).

The FIFTH time was when it REALLY hit! And now it's one of my all-time favorites

Ultra Indo was similar for me - and I still haven't had it do as much for me as it has for some others. But it probably will at some point I've learned that when Chris and Angie name batches things like "Crown Jewel", it's definitely going to be good - and kratom is so fickle on so many levels you just may not know when

It's great stuff but I need higher doses, 5gish. Everything else is pluses.